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  • Why the US keeps throwing cold water on inter-Korean railway projects

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 1 08:01:07 2022
    "The US has been uncooperative about the project to connect railways and roads between North and South Korea. This has been the case especially during Republican administrations, namely those of George W. Bush (2001-2008) and Donald Trump (2017-2020). At
    the time, the US justified its stance by saying that progress in inter-Korean relations should align in pace with the North’s denuclearization.

    However, the bottom line of the US’ uncooperativeness is more fundamental, rooted in the Cold War order in Northeast Asia. The essence of the matter is tug-of-war concerning whether the armistice regime is maintained, keeping the US in its position of
    overwhelming supremacy, or whether inter-Korea cooperation is hastened, opening up an opportunity for a transition from the armistice regime to a regime of permanent peace."

    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_editorials/1052903.html

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 2 00:28:12 2022
    On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 11:01:08 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The US has been uncooperative about the project to connect railways and roads between North and South Korea. This has been the case especially during Republican administrations, namely those of George W. Bush (2001-2008) and Donald Trump (2017-2020).
    At the time, the US justified its stance by saying that progress in inter-Korean relations should align in pace with the North’s denuclearization.

    However, the bottom line of the US’ uncooperativeness is more fundamental, rooted in the Cold War order in Northeast Asia. The essence of the matter is tug-of-war concerning whether the armistice regime is maintained, keeping the US in its position
    of overwhelming supremacy, or whether inter-Korea cooperation is hastened, opening up an opportunity for a transition from the armistice regime to a regime of permanent peace."

    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_editorials/1052903.html

    US does not want North Korea and South Korea to have any economic cooperation, If allowed to, it will make US redundant from lording. dictating, and manipulating South Korea. They want South Korea to be in the thumb of commands.

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to stoney on Tue Aug 2 11:01:37 2022
    stoney <papajoe168@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 11:01:08 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The US has been uncooperative about the project to connect railways
    and roads between North and South Korea. This has been the case
    especially during Republican administrations, namely those of George
    W. Bush (2001-2008) and Donald Trump (2017-2020). At the time, the
    US justified its stance by saying that progress in inter-Korean
    relations should align in pace with the North’s denuclearization.

    However, the bottom line of the US’ uncooperativeness is more
    fundamental, rooted in the Cold War order in Northeast Asia. The
    essence of the matter is tug-of-war concerning whether the armistice
    regime is maintained, keeping the US in its position of overwhelming
    supremacy, or whether inter-Korea cooperation is hastened, opening
    up an opportunity for a transition from the armistice regime to a
    regime of permanent peace."

    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_editorials/1052903.html

    US does not want North Korea and South Korea to have any economic cooperation, If allowed to, it will make US redundant from
    lording. dictating, and manipulating South Korea. They want South
    Korea to be in the thumb of commands.

    Look at it another way: WHY South Korea is "not eager" to simply ignore
    US "opinions" about cooperation with (*NUCLEAR*) North Korea?

    --
    A. Filip : Big (Tech) Brother is watching you.
    | God is love, but get it in writing. (Gypsy Rose Lee)

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  • From borie@21:1/5 to borie on Tue Aug 2 03:12:41 2022
    On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 5:24:35 PM UTC+8, borie wrote:
    On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 11:01:08 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The US has been uncooperative about the project to connect railways and roads between North and South Korea. This has been the case especially during Republican administrations, namely those of George W. Bush (2001-2008) and Donald Trump (2017-2020).
    At the time, the US justified its stance by saying that progress in inter-Korean relations should align in pace with the North’s denuclearization.

    However, the bottom line of the US’ uncooperativeness is more fundamental, rooted in the Cold War order in Northeast Asia. The essence of the matter is tug-of-war concerning whether the armistice regime is maintained, keeping the US in its position
    of overwhelming supremacy, or whether inter-Korea cooperation is hastened, opening up an opportunity for a transition from the armistice regime to a regime of permanent peace."

    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_editorials/1052903.html
    US wants the point man to speak and talk to North Korea. So their treaty on South Korea after their war is for South Korean military to be under US commands disguised under commands of UN forces.

    One can see the future of Taiwan under Tsai will end up Taiwan's military under the command of the US military in Okinawa.

    Very soon, with special supply of special weapons to Taiwan, Taiwan's Tsai will be forced by US to sign special agreement with US to station US forces to train them but actually for the placement of US forces on Taiwan's soil on a permanent basis.

    It will the force Taiwan's military commands to be under US commands, for any military matter when dealing with China. It will be like what South Korea and Japan are now facing in their military dilemmas of being a country but under the US commands of
    playing "puppet on the string" on them.

    If Tsai were to sell out its Taiwanese military to be under the commands to the US, she will not bother with the future of it. She will escape to US and live under US's protection, instead. Taiwan will then become like militaries of Japan and South
    Korea.

    If Tsai sells out Taiwan and ran away from its hounding people, she will be like the late South Vietnam's president Nguyen Van Thieu and late Prime Minister of South Vietnam's Nguyen Cao Ky.

    They lost its political and economic powers to run South Vietnam after giving all their commands of its military bases to US forces to fight for them. They ran off with crates of gold bars to US when North Vietnam overwhelmed them and deleted US forces,
    too. South Vietnam people suffered and became very poor and ragtag, too.

    Make no mistake, US will lead the leaderless Tsai to that end too. She will be forced to listen to the US Pacific commander in Okinawa and asked to hand her military bases for them to fight and defend Taiwan. Whether win or lose the war, eventually
    Taiwan will end up like South Korea and Japan. Taiwan people should now wake up and not to be tricked by the green pastures of US waiting to cold storage them instead.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to A. Filip on Tue Aug 2 03:14:48 2022
    On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 5:01:39 AM UTC-4, A. Filip wrote:
    stoney <papaj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 11:01:08 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The US has been uncooperative about the project to connect railways
    and roads between North and South Korea. This has been the case
    especially during Republican administrations, namely those of George
    W. Bush (2001-2008) and Donald Trump (2017-2020). At the time, the
    US justified its stance by saying that progress in inter-Korean
    relations should align in pace with the North’s denuclearization.

    However, the bottom line of the US’ uncooperativeness is more
    fundamental, rooted in the Cold War order in Northeast Asia. The
    essence of the matter is tug-of-war concerning whether the armistice
    regime is maintained, keeping the US in its position of overwhelming
    supremacy, or whether inter-Korea cooperation is hastened, opening
    up an opportunity for a transition from the armistice regime to a
    regime of permanent peace."

    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_editorials/1052903.html

    US does not want North Korea and South Korea to have any economic cooperation, If allowed to, it will make US redundant from
    lording. dictating, and manipulating South Korea. They want South
    Korea to be in the thumb of commands.
    Look at it another way: WHY South Korea is "not eager" to simply ignore
    US "opinions" about cooperation with (*NUCLEAR*) North Korea?


    Acton's famous words are "Power Tends to Corrupt."
    The TEND is significant. After all, power per se does not corrupt.
    Inertia corrupts. Power offers choice. Inertia is against making
    choice.

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  • From borie@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 2 02:24:34 2022
    On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 11:01:08 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The US has been uncooperative about the project to connect railways and roads between North and South Korea. This has been the case especially during Republican administrations, namely those of George W. Bush (2001-2008) and Donald Trump (2017-2020).
    At the time, the US justified its stance by saying that progress in inter-Korean relations should align in pace with the North’s denuclearization.

    However, the bottom line of the US’ uncooperativeness is more fundamental, rooted in the Cold War order in Northeast Asia. The essence of the matter is tug-of-war concerning whether the armistice regime is maintained, keeping the US in its position
    of overwhelming supremacy, or whether inter-Korea cooperation is hastened, opening up an opportunity for a transition from the armistice regime to a regime of permanent peace."

    http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_editorials/1052903.html

    US wants the point man to speak and talk to North Korea. So their treaty on South Korea after their war is for South Korean military to be under US commands disguised under commands of UN forces.

    One can see the future of Taiwan under Tsai will end up Taiwan's military under the command of the US military in Okinawa.

    Very soon, with special supply of special weapons to Taiwan, Taiwan's Tsai will be forced by US to sign special agreement with US to station US forces to train them but actually for the placement of US forces on Taiwan's soil on a permanent basis.

    It will the force Taiwan's military commands to be under US commands, for any military matter when dealing with China. It will be like what South Korea and Japan are now facing in their military dilemmas of being a country but under the US commands of
    playing "puppet on the string" on them.

    If Tsai were to sell out its Taiwanese military to be under the commands to the US, she will not bother with the future of it. She will escape to US and live under US's protection, instead. Taiwan will then become like militaries of Japan and South Korea.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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