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    From David P.@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 25 11:06:11 2022
    From Russian Elites, No Sign of Broad Challenge to Putin
    By Anton Troianovski, June 23, 2022, NY Times

    The mood of the so-called Russian elite — a kaleidoscope of senior officials, business executives, journalists and intellectuals — has been closely watched for any domestic backlash to Putin’s decision to go to war. If their dismay at the country’
    s sudden economic and cultural isolation were to cross a threshold, some Western officials believe, Putin might be forced to change course.

    Yet what is happening in reality, interviews show, is that the mood spans a spectrum from desperation to exhilaration, but with one common denominator: the sense that the country’s future is out of their hands.

    “They are drinking,” said Yevgenia Albats, a journalist still in Moscow, attempting to characterize those elites who were dismayed by the decision to go to war. “They are drinking very heavily.”

    Almost no Russian billionaires have spoken out forcefully against the war, even though sanctions have frozen billions of dollars in their Western assets. One senior adviser to Putin has quit, reportedly over the war, but has not commented on his
    departure; only one Russian diplomat, a midlevel official in Geneva, has publicly resigned in protest.

    Instead, many are choosing to cut ties with Europe and the United States and to refrain from criticizing the Kremlin. That stance aligns with the constant assertions by Putin that it is better to cast your lot with Russia than the West.

    “It’s safer at home,” Putin said at a St. Petersburg economic conference last week, demanding that Russia’s wealthy turn away from Western vacation houses and boarding schools. “Real, solid success and a feeling of dignity and self-respect only
    occurs when you tie your future and your children’s future to your Motherland.”

    As a result, even the tightly controlled politics of prewar Russia now looks vibrant in retrospect.

    Albats, a liberal radio host and magazine editor, continues to broadcast from her apartment to YouTube; the Echo of Moscow radio station, which carried her show for nearly two decades, shut down after the war began. She has called Putin a war criminal,
    and already faces four misdemeanor charges under Russia’s new censorship law.

    As one of the few prominent liberals who continue to loudly criticize the war while inside the country, and with just about all her friends having left, Albats says she faces a “monstrous” loneliness.

    “This youthful energy of resistance — all the ones who could have resisted have left,” Albats, 63, said. “I must resist — otherwise I will stop respecting myself. But I understand that life is over.”

    Yet to others, life goes on. Lebedev, the business magnate, owns a minority stake in Novaya Gazeta, the independent newspaper whose editor Dmitri Muratov auctioned off his 2021 Nobel Peace Prize medal for $103.5 million this week to support Ukrainian
    child refugees.

    Lebedev, 62, said Russia was approaching the model of “Iran and North Korea” and would be able to sustain it for years; Putin would stay in power as long as his health allowed, he predicted in a phone interview, rejecting rumors of the president
    being sick as “nonsense.” It was “an absolute illusion,” he insisted, that Russia’s wealthy could have any influence on Putin’s insular inner circle.

    He railed against sanctions, saying they were only prompting Russia’s wealthy to rally around Putin by forcing them to cut ties with the West and making them feel like victims. Canada placed Mr. Lebedev on a sanctions list of oligarchs who “directly
    enabled Vladimir Putin’s senseless war in Ukraine.” He rejects that characterization, noting that he has been one of the main financial backers of Russia’s best-known independent newspaper.

    Novaya suspended publication in March, with Muratov announcing that it was doing so to ensure its journalists’ safety. Lebedev predicted that Novaya would not reopen so long as the war in Ukraine continued — which military analysts have said could be
    years.

    “I live here, I have to feed my family, so I will keep doing things in the fields in which I understand something,” he said. “But it won’t be journalism.”

    Life in Moscow has changed little so far, Lebedev said, though it was proving difficult to import his fine wine collection from Italy. He pointed out that other than Oleg Tinkov, the founder of a Russian bank who said he was forced to sell his stake this
    spring, no major Russian business magnate has spoken forcefully against the war, despite the many billions they may possess in Western assets.

    “Even if you say that this was a mistake,” Lebedev said of the invasion, “we still have what we have.”

    That is also the logic that helped prompt Trenin, the former Carnegie Moscow Center director, to change course. For decades, he straddled the mainstream foreign-policy discourse of both Moscow and Washington, and employed critics of Mr. Putin at his
    think tank. Before the war, Trenin said that Putin was unlikely to invade Ukraine because doing so would entail “great human and financial losses” and “a tremendous risk for Russia itself.”

    But after the war started on Feb. 24, when some of his colleagues fled, Trenin decided to stay put. He said that whether the invasion was the right decision in hindsight no longer mattered, and that he now needed to support his country in what he cast as
    a war between Russia and the West.

    The Russians who left and are speaking out against the invasion, he said in a phone interview, had made the choice to “stand against their country, against their people, at a time of war.”

    “This is a time of making a fundamental choice,” Trenin, who served for two decades in the Soviet and Russian militaries, said. “Either you stay with your people and in your country, or you leave.”

    The Russian govt in April shut down the Carnegie Moscow Center, which was funded by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington. Trenin, 66, said that he now plans to do research and teach in Moscow, and that his longtime mission of
    promoting understanding between Moscow and Washington is no longer relevant.

    Had Washington acceded to Putin’s demands to pledge that Ukraine would never join NATO, Trenin argues, the war could have been averted. Now, conflict between Russia and the West “will probably continue for the rest of my life.”

    “My work was aimed at creating mutual understanding between America and Russia,” he says. “This has not happened.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/23/world/europe/russia-war-oligarchs-putin.html

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to David P. on Mon Jun 27 09:06:55 2022
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 2:06:14 AM UTC+8, David P. wrote:
    From Russian Elites, No Sign of Broad Challenge to Putin
    By Anton Troianovski, June 23, 2022, NY Times

    The mood of the so-called Russian elite — a kaleidoscope of senior officials, business executives, journalists and intellectuals — has been closely watched for any domestic backlash to Putin’s decision to go to war. If their dismay at the country
    s sudden economic and cultural isolation were to cross a threshold, some Western officials believe, Putin might be forced to change course.

    Yet what is happening in reality, interviews show, is that the mood spans a spectrum from desperation to exhilaration, but with one common denominator: the sense that the country’s future is out of their hands.

    “They are drinking,” said Yevgenia Albats, a journalist still in Moscow, attempting to characterize those elites who were dismayed by the decision to go to war. “They are drinking very heavily.”

    Almost no Russian billionaires have spoken out forcefully against the war, even though sanctions have frozen billions of dollars in their Western assets. One senior adviser to Putin has quit, reportedly over the war, but has not commented on his
    departure; only one Russian diplomat, a midlevel official in Geneva, has publicly resigned in protest.

    Instead, many are choosing to cut ties with Europe and the United States and to refrain from criticizing the Kremlin. That stance aligns with the constant assertions by Putin that it is better to cast your lot with Russia than the West.

    “It’s safer at home,” Putin said at a St. Petersburg economic conference last week, demanding that Russia’s wealthy turn away from Western vacation houses and boarding schools. “Real, solid success and a feeling of dignity and self-respect
    only occurs when you tie your future and your children’s future to your Motherland.”

    As a result, even the tightly controlled politics of prewar Russia now looks vibrant in retrospect.

    Albats, a liberal radio host and magazine editor, continues to broadcast from her apartment to YouTube; the Echo of Moscow radio station, which carried her show for nearly two decades, shut down after the war began. She has called Putin a war criminal,
    and already faces four misdemeanor charges under Russia’s new censorship law.

    As one of the few prominent liberals who continue to loudly criticize the war while inside the country, and with just about all her friends having left, Albats says she faces a “monstrous” loneliness.

    “This youthful energy of resistance — all the ones who could have resisted have left,” Albats, 63, said. “I must resist — otherwise I will stop respecting myself. But I understand that life is over.”

    Yet to others, life goes on. Lebedev, the business magnate, owns a minority stake in Novaya Gazeta, the independent newspaper whose editor Dmitri Muratov auctioned off his 2021 Nobel Peace Prize medal for $103.5 million this week to support Ukrainian
    child refugees.

    Lebedev, 62, said Russia was approaching the model of “Iran and North Korea” and would be able to sustain it for years; Putin would stay in power as long as his health allowed, he predicted in a phone interview, rejecting rumors of the president
    being sick as “nonsense.” It was “an absolute illusion,” he insisted, that Russia’s wealthy could have any influence on Putin’s insular inner circle.

    He railed against sanctions, saying they were only prompting Russia’s wealthy to rally around Putin by forcing them to cut ties with the West and making them feel like victims. Canada placed Mr. Lebedev on a sanctions list of oligarchs who “
    directly enabled Vladimir Putin’s senseless war in Ukraine.” He rejects that characterization, noting that he has been one of the main financial backers of Russia’s best-known independent newspaper.

    Novaya suspended publication in March, with Muratov announcing that it was doing so to ensure its journalists’ safety. Lebedev predicted that Novaya would not reopen so long as the war in Ukraine continued — which military analysts have said could
    be years.

    “I live here, I have to feed my family, so I will keep doing things in the fields in which I understand something,” he said. “But it won’t be journalism.”

    Life in Moscow has changed little so far, Lebedev said, though it was proving difficult to import his fine wine collection from Italy. He pointed out that other than Oleg Tinkov, the founder of a Russian bank who said he was forced to sell his stake
    this spring, no major Russian business magnate has spoken forcefully against the war, despite the many billions they may possess in Western assets.

    “Even if you say that this was a mistake,” Lebedev said of the invasion, “we still have what we have.”

    That is also the logic that helped prompt Trenin, the former Carnegie Moscow Center director, to change course. For decades, he straddled the mainstream foreign-policy discourse of both Moscow and Washington, and employed critics of Mr. Putin at his
    think tank. Before the war, Trenin said that Putin was unlikely to invade Ukraine because doing so would entail “great human and financial losses” and “a tremendous risk for Russia itself.”

    But after the war started on Feb. 24, when some of his colleagues fled, Trenin decided to stay put. He said that whether the invasion was the right decision in hindsight no longer mattered, and that he now needed to support his country in what he cast
    as a war between Russia and the West.

    The Russians who left and are speaking out against the invasion, he said in a phone interview, had made the choice to “stand against their country, against their people, at a time of war.”

    “This is a time of making a fundamental choice,” Trenin, who served for two decades in the Soviet and Russian militaries, said. “Either you stay with your people and in your country, or you leave.”

    The Russian govt in April shut down the Carnegie Moscow Center, which was funded by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington. Trenin, 66, said that he now plans to do research and teach in Moscow, and that his longtime mission of
    promoting understanding between Moscow and Washington is no longer relevant.

    Had Washington acceded to Putin’s demands to pledge that Ukraine would never join NATO, Trenin argues, the war could have been averted. Now, conflict between Russia and the West “will probably continue for the rest of my life.”

    “My work was aimed at creating mutual understanding between America and Russia,” he says. “This has not happened.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/23/world/europe/russia-war-oligarchs-putin.html

    When comes to war, one essential thing is the cooperation of the cabinet people, the elites and people working towards keeping focus at the warfront. They should only let one or two persons in the leadership or spokepersons to speak for them. A
    collective power by them is a strength for the country.

    Hence, a broad challenge by elites in Russia is not useful and is not required too. One should not use the opportunity of war in order to usurp the power of the leader. They should just and listen with neutrality. If Russia elites were to use their
    elite influence or collaboration among themselves, to work against Russia leadership, they should be arrested and court trials.

    They can be charged for treason if they are found using the midst of war to work against the legitimate leadership. Elites should not have power to influence because they influenced them based on their own benefits. Rather, it is best to listen and hear
    out ordinary people that have good academic knowledge and as economic experts, too.

    Henceforth, a discipline leadership with quality of people will definitely made the country well respected.

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