• College education in the US

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 1 13:31:46 2022
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

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  • From borie@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 17:50:07 2022
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    The high failure rate over 6 years of college degree reduced Americans to 58% at the end of the class almost half of the class had gone at the end of 6 years class. Their motivation have drawn on studying and playing guns and not their books. Their
    result is their marketable skill is not the degree but the own marketable degree on how to use their guns to play and kill.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 19:10:44 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:31:48 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    Do you spend your whole day looking for crap about the US on the internet? I suggest therapy. Seriously. Your insurance may cover it.

    You too, little Stoney or whatever you are calling yourself this week. You guys live in a great country.

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  • From borie@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 3 01:58:08 2022
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200 years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to borie on Tue May 3 07:58:56 2022
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200 years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.

    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.

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  • From borie@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 3 16:19:36 2022
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:58:57 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200 years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.
    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.

    With a disposal income of approx. $25,000 per year, does that mean the annual personal income tax of income $30,000 is $5,000 per year,, to which is 16.6% of $30,000.?

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to borie on Thu May 5 05:47:49 2022
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:19:38 PM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:58:57 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200 years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.
    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.
    With a disposal income of approx. $25,000 per year, does that mean the annual personal income tax of income $30,000 is $5,000 per year,, to which is 16.6% of $30,000.?

    https://us.icalculator.info/salary-illustration/30000.html

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 06:03:45 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:47:51 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:19:38 PM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:58:57 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200
    years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.
    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.
    With a disposal income of approx. $25,000 per year, does that mean the annual personal income tax of income $30,000 is $5,000 per year,, to which is 16.6% of $30,000.?
    https://us.icalculator.info/salary-illustration/30000.html

    Money isn't everything.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 12:40:41 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:31:48 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

    "Remember how Democrats sold their student loan takeover as a money-saver? Now millions of borrowers can’t or don’t want to repay their loans, so President Biden says he may cancel their debt. The taxpayers who repaid their loans or didn’t go to
    college will pay instead.

    The Administration has repeatedly extended what was supposed to be a temporary pause on student loan payments and interest accrual. This reprieve has cost the government $100 billion and counting—money that Congress hasn’t appropriated. Now Democrats
    want Mr. Biden to compound the damage to taxpayers and the Constitution by writing off loans by presidential fiat.
    ***
    Most borrowers don’t need debt relief, but Democrats are hoping to buy themselves political relief before the midterm elections. Young people have soured on President Biden, and Democrats worry they will be as motivated to vote this November as they
    were to attend a 9 a.m. class. Democrats plan to bribe them to the polls. This week Mr. Biden told the Congressional Hispanic Caucus that he is weighing options, but “you’re going to like what I do on that,” as one Member related.

    Federal student loans were established as part of the Great Society to help low-income students. Yet step by step, Democrats have turned student loans into an entitlement for academia and the affluent. Rather than make college free on the front end—
    which might have failed to pass Congress—they want to waive the costs at the back end."

    If one wonders why Republicans don't like big government, here is part of the explanation.
    From GOP's point of view this is an attempt of buying vote with loan forgiveness. Of course, it is not fair for other tax payers.

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  • From borie@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 14:14:57 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 8:47:51 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:19:38 PM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:58:57 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200
    years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.
    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.
    With a disposal income of approx. $25,000 per year, does that mean the annual personal income tax of income $30,000 is $5,000 per year,, to which is 16.6% of $30,000.?
    https://us.icalculator.info/salary-illustration/30000.html

    The calculator calculates that with a gross annual income of $30,000 and less $24,934.04 left for disposable income, the tax is $5,065.90 to which the tax is 16.88% of $30,000. Close to earlier approx. figure of disposal income of $25,000 to which the
    tax of $5,000 is calculated to be 16.66%

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  • From borie@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 14:32:58 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 8:47:51 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:19:38 PM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:58:57 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200
    years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.
    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.
    With a disposal income of approx. $25,000 per year, does that mean the annual personal income tax of income $30,000 is $5,000 per year,, to which is 16.6% of $30,000.?
    https://us.icalculator.info/salary-illustration/30000.html

    Much of US tax appeared to have gone to making weapon, aircrafts, missiles, aircraft carrier, and biolabs, to confront and fight other countries that they have nothing returned to the people with building and repair of roads, bridges, housing, schools,
    and other infrastructures.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to borie on Thu May 5 14:54:22 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-7, borie wrote:
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 8:47:51 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:19:38 PM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:58:57 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200
    years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.
    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.
    With a disposal income of approx. $25,000 per year, does that mean the annual personal income tax of income $30,000 is $5,000 per year,, to which is 16.6% of $30,000.?
    https://us.icalculator.info/salary-illustration/30000.html
    Much of US tax appeared to have gone to making weapon, aircrafts, missiles, aircraft carrier, and biolabs, to confront and fight other countries that they have nothing returned to the people with building and repair of roads, bridges, housing, schools,
    and other infrastructures.

    A complete lie.

    Most of PRC tax goes to the PRC government's attempts to control the people.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to borie on Fri May 6 10:49:28 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 5:33:00 PM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 8:47:51 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:19:38 PM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 10:58:57 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:58:10 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:31:48 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Graduation rate:
    "On average, just 58 percent of students who started college in the fall of 2012 had earned any degree six years later, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center."
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/13/681621047/college-completion-rates-are-up-but-the-numbers-will-still-surprise-you

    Post College Graduation:

    "About one-quarter of all college grads earn less than $30,000 a year, and one in seven makes less than the poverty line, according to a recent survey. College grads without marketable skills or degrees often wind up working low-end jobs."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-taxpayer-con-of-the-century-student-loans-cancel-biden-administration-education-college-11651268998?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
    $30,000 a year means 2500 per month and it means daily $83. This daily sum is enough for a loaf of bread and coffee and some left for gasoline and car insurance.

    It is not enough to pay for their medical insurance, car instalment, rent and utility bills and internet and pone bills and other service essentials.US spent $2 trillion dollar on war in Afghanistan over 20 years could easily pay them for 200
    years.

    They should know their jobs were taken away by high influx of cheap illegal migrant workers entering and surging into the country from the south. They will now have to get compete with them for job at their lowest pay, instead.
    "Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
    Earning $30,000 means a disposable income of ~$25000.
    With a disposal income of approx. $25,000 per year, does that mean the annual personal income tax of income $30,000 is $5,000 per year,, to which is 16.6% of $30,000.?
    https://us.icalculator.info/salary-illustration/30000.html
    Much of US tax appeared to have gone to making weapon, aircrafts, missiles, aircraft carrier, and biolabs, to confront and fight other countries that they have nothing returned to the people with building and repair of roads, bridges, housing, schools,
    and other infrastructures.

    US government needs to do better in training its workers for higher paying jobs.

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