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  • Zelensky believes that peace treaty with Russia should consist of two d

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 07:06:45 2022
    "A peace treaty with Russia could consist of two separate documents, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky believes.

    "A peace treaty with Russia may consist of two documents. One of them should deal with security guarantees for Ukraine, the other directly with its relations with Russia," he said in an interview with Ukrainian online media on Saturday, according to the
    Ukrainian Truth publication.

    "I think it could be two different documents. Security guarantees from those who are ready for these security guarantees. And a separate document with Russia," Zelensky said.

    "Moscow would like to have one treaty that would contain the solution of all issues. However, everyone does not quite see themselves at the table with Russia. For them, security guarantees for Ukraine are one issue, while agreements with Russia are
    another issue. Russia wants everything to be in one document, but people say: sorry, they saw what happened in Bucha, circumstances are changing," the president said."

    https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/824715.html

    A two document or a two stage peace treaty looks like a good way to escape fighting to the last Ukrainian. The Russia document probably contains all Russia demands. Full acceptance of the terms by Ukraine depends on the security guarantees document.

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 27 00:12:01 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 10:06:47 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    "A peace treaty with Russia could consist of two separate documents, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky believes.

    "A peace treaty with Russia may consist of two documents. One of them should deal with security guarantees for Ukraine, the other directly with its relations with Russia," he said in an interview with Ukrainian online media on Saturday, according to
    the Ukrainian Truth publication.

    "I think it could be two different documents. Security guarantees from those who are ready for these security guarantees. And a separate document with Russia," Zelensky said.

    "Moscow would like to have one treaty that would contain the solution of all issues. However, everyone does not quite see themselves at the table with Russia. For them, security guarantees for Ukraine are one issue, while agreements with Russia are
    another issue. Russia wants everything to be in one document, but people say: sorry, they saw what happened in Bucha, circumstances are changing," the president said."

    https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/824715.html

    A two document or a two stage peace treaty looks like a good way to escape fighting to the last Ukrainian. The Russia document probably contains all Russia demands. Full acceptance of the terms by Ukraine depends on the security guarantees document.

    Indeed the document will probably contain all of Russia demands. Hence, it is impossible for Ukraine to agree to it. The US and EU or even the UN will not agree to it. If the document is signed, it is like putting a rope over the head of the Ukraine and
    waiting to be pulled up from time to time for punishment and even death. The document will then cause friction and hatred. A slight infringement deviated from the document will be like doing a "haka-kiri" commitment on yourself.

    Hence, thee document will be meant as no respect for Ukraine at all. Ukraine will be like an "obedient dog on lead". Additionally, there will be no more respect for each other's lands, people and borders, too. Henceforth, the best way is to go back to
    its original borders and those unhappy people from Russia in Ukraine should move to Russia and leave Ukraine alone.

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