• Russo-Ukraine Mercenary War: King Solomon's Test, Prisoners' Delimma, .

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 17 12:13:24 2022
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms. In their
    operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign mercenaries
    from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken to a safe
    place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 17 20:07:39 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms. In
    their operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign
    mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken
    to a safe place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?

    They are employed as mercenaries by state actor of power and hence they have to fulfill their prepaid job. They know they will have to fulfill their deployments to anywhere either win or lose in the fight.

    However, they know they rather not to die in their job, for it is just a salaried job for them to earn a living from using their enjoyment of experiencing of killing people in their war in other countries. They love to kill people and hence they called
    themselves as mercenaries. They are hired for killing. They are assassinator, rapist, robbers, and widow breakers.

    When they know they don't want to die they then set their mind not to get killed. They will either fight all the way to win. If they cannot win, they will have to lose to avoid being killed. The only way for them to lose is to
    surrender totally.

    Being prisoner, they will then have a chance to get a hot meal and medical help in the prisoner camps. If they are lucky they can recharge their mobile phone and make video contact to their papa and mama in their country that thy are still alive and not
    to go out to buy a coffin for them yet. If they surrendered they will have to tell the prisoner camp commandant what they were doing in Ukraine and who paid them to be mercenaries for Ukraine.

    Ukraine wants to have lots of them because if these mercenaries get killed in the war, they will give US a chance to say how merciless the Russia is in killing these foreign civilian volunteers, instead. US will instruct their licking Western media to
    write as much as possible in including lies and fabrications and manufacturing of stories and scripting up new titles for their headings in TV media.

    If the mercenaries were captured alive or surrendered, Ukraine will have nothing to give to US but giving how bad their prisoners were treated instead Russia will then used these captured mercenaries and Ukraine to put them on the negotiation to US that
    it has the chips on them.

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sun Apr 17 20:31:58 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:17:51 AM UTC+8, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:07:40 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms. In
    their operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign
    mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken
    to a safe place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?
    They are employed as mercenaries by state actor of power and hence they have to fulfill their prepaid job. They know they will have to fulfill their deployments to anywhere either win or lose in the fight.

    However, they know they rather not to die in their job, for it is just a salaried job for them to earn a living from using their enjoyment of experiencing of killing people in their war in other countries. They love to kill people and hence they
    called themselves as mercenaries. They are hired for killing. They are assassinator, rapist, robbers, and widow breakers.

    When they know they don't want to die they then set their mind not to get killed. They will either fight all the way to win. If they cannot win, they will have to lose to avoid being killed. The only way for them to lose is to
    surrender totally.

    Being prisoner, they will then have a chance to get a hot meal and medical help in the prisoner camps. If they are lucky they can recharge their mobile phone and make video contact to their papa and mama in their country that thy are still alive and
    not to go out to buy a coffin for them yet. If they surrendered they will have to tell the prisoner camp commandant what they were doing in Ukraine and who paid them to be mercenaries for Ukraine.

    Ukraine wants to have lots of them because if these mercenaries get killed in the war, they will give US a chance to say how merciless the Russia is in killing these foreign civilian volunteers, instead. US will instruct their licking Western media
    to write as much as possible in including lies and fabrications and manufacturing of stories and scripting up new titles for their headings in TV media.

    If the mercenaries were captured alive or surrendered, Ukraine will have nothing to give to US but giving how bad their prisoners were treated instead Russia will then used these captured mercenaries and Ukraine to put them on the negotiation to US
    that it has the chips on them.
    Stoney, are you stoned? If not, consider joining those of us who notice what is happening. Your mind is your only friend, and you are letting others control it.

    There you are now trying to smear at posters showed that you had a tumor in your brain. You must be taking illegal drugs that make your brain to bark talk, instead. Seriously, you are too shallow to understand the topics here. One can see you did not
    even have the depth of experience of seeing the real world yet. You are still playing computer game to bluff yourself. You are a farmer and you still retired from no work, huh?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to stoney on Sun Apr 17 20:17:50 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:07:40 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms. In
    their operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign
    mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken
    to a safe place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?
    They are employed as mercenaries by state actor of power and hence they have to fulfill their prepaid job. They know they will have to fulfill their deployments to anywhere either win or lose in the fight.

    However, they know they rather not to die in their job, for it is just a salaried job for them to earn a living from using their enjoyment of experiencing of killing people in their war in other countries. They love to kill people and hence they called
    themselves as mercenaries. They are hired for killing. They are assassinator, rapist, robbers, and widow breakers.

    When they know they don't want to die they then set their mind not to get killed. They will either fight all the way to win. If they cannot win, they will have to lose to avoid being killed. The only way for them to lose is to
    surrender totally.

    Being prisoner, they will then have a chance to get a hot meal and medical help in the prisoner camps. If they are lucky they can recharge their mobile phone and make video contact to their papa and mama in their country that thy are still alive and
    not to go out to buy a coffin for them yet. If they surrendered they will have to tell the prisoner camp commandant what they were doing in Ukraine and who paid them to be mercenaries for Ukraine.

    Ukraine wants to have lots of them because if these mercenaries get killed in the war, they will give US a chance to say how merciless the Russia is in killing these foreign civilian volunteers, instead. US will instruct their licking Western media to
    write as much as possible in including lies and fabrications and manufacturing of stories and scripting up new titles for their headings in TV media.

    If the mercenaries were captured alive or surrendered, Ukraine will have nothing to give to US but giving how bad their prisoners were treated instead Russia will then used these captured mercenaries and Ukraine to put them on the negotiation to US
    that it has the chips on them.

    Stoney, are you stoned? If not, consider joining those of us who notice what is happening. Your mind is your only friend, and you are letting others control it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to stoney on Sun Apr 17 20:46:34 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:31:59 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:17:51 AM UTC+8, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:07:40 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms.
    In their operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign
    mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken
    to a safe place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?
    They are employed as mercenaries by state actor of power and hence they have to fulfill their prepaid job. They know they will have to fulfill their deployments to anywhere either win or lose in the fight.

    However, they know they rather not to die in their job, for it is just a salaried job for them to earn a living from using their enjoyment of experiencing of killing people in their war in other countries. They love to kill people and hence they
    called themselves as mercenaries. They are hired for killing. They are assassinator, rapist, robbers, and widow breakers.

    When they know they don't want to die they then set their mind not to get killed. They will either fight all the way to win. If they cannot win, they will have to lose to avoid being killed. The only way for them to lose is to
    surrender totally.

    Being prisoner, they will then have a chance to get a hot meal and medical help in the prisoner camps. If they are lucky they can recharge their mobile phone and make video contact to their papa and mama in their country that thy are still alive
    and not to go out to buy a coffin for them yet. If they surrendered they will have to tell the prisoner camp commandant what they were doing in Ukraine and who paid them to be mercenaries for Ukraine.

    Ukraine wants to have lots of them because if these mercenaries get killed in the war, they will give US a chance to say how merciless the Russia is in killing these foreign civilian volunteers, instead. US will instruct their licking Western media
    to write as much as possible in including lies and fabrications and manufacturing of stories and scripting up new titles for their headings in TV media.

    If the mercenaries were captured alive or surrendered, Ukraine will have nothing to give to US but giving how bad their prisoners were treated instead Russia will then used these captured mercenaries and Ukraine to put them on the negotiation to US
    that it has the chips on them.
    Stoney, are you stoned? If not, consider joining those of us who notice what is happening. Your mind is your only friend, and you are letting others control it.
    There you are now trying to smear at posters showed that you had a tumor in your brain. You must be taking illegal drugs that make your brain to bark talk, instead. Seriously, you are too shallow to understand the topics here. One can see you did not
    even have the depth of experience of seeing the real world yet. You are still playing computer game to bluff yourself. You are a farmer and you still retired from no work, huh?

    Oh, stoney. In the PRC the truth is an illegal drug. Really. I have listened to Mr. Lee's hogwash for several decades now. It remains hogwash.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to stoney on Mon Apr 18 07:21:17 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:07:40 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms. In
    their operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign
    mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken
    to a safe place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?
    They are employed as mercenaries by state actor of power and hence they have to fulfill their prepaid job. They know they will have to fulfill their deployments to anywhere either win or lose in the fight.

    However, they know they rather not to die in their job, for it is just a salaried job for them to earn a living from using their enjoyment of experiencing of killing people in their war in other countries. They love to kill people and hence they called
    themselves as mercenaries. They are hired for killing. They are assassinator, rapist, robbers, and widow breakers.

    When they know they don't want to die they then set their mind not to get killed. They will either fight all the way to win. If they cannot win, they will have to lose to avoid being killed. The only way for them to lose is to
    surrender totally.

    Being prisoner, they will then have a chance to get a hot meal and medical help in the prisoner camps. If they are lucky they can recharge their mobile phone and make video contact to their papa and mama in their country that thy are still alive and
    not to go out to buy a coffin for them yet. If they surrendered they will have to tell the prisoner camp commandant what they were doing in Ukraine and who paid them to be mercenaries for Ukraine.

    Ukraine wants to have lots of them because if these mercenaries get killed in the war, they will give US a chance to say how merciless the Russia is in killing these foreign civilian volunteers, instead. US will instruct their licking Western media to
    write as much as possible in including lies and fabrications and manufacturing of stories and scripting up new titles for their headings in TV media.

    If the mercenaries were captured alive or surrendered, Ukraine will have nothing to give to US but giving how bad their prisoners were treated instead Russia will then used these captured mercenaries and Ukraine to put them on the negotiation to US
    that it has the chips on them.

    Another issue. American and/or NATO operatives could be trapped in Mariupol. IF true, they would be the real prize.
    Would not be surprised be Austria’s Chancellor Karl Nehamme's meeting with Putin was an effort to seek
    their release.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 09:49:54 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 10:21:18 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:07:40 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms. In
    their operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign
    mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken
    to a safe place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?
    They are employed as mercenaries by state actor of power and hence they have to fulfill their prepaid job. They know they will have to fulfill their deployments to anywhere either win or lose in the fight.

    However, they know they rather not to die in their job, for it is just a salaried job for them to earn a living from using their enjoyment of experiencing of killing people in their war in other countries. They love to kill people and hence they
    called themselves as mercenaries. They are hired for killing. They are assassinator, rapist, robbers, and widow breakers.

    When they know they don't want to die they then set their mind not to get killed. They will either fight all the way to win. If they cannot win, they will have to lose to avoid being killed. The only way for them to lose is to
    surrender totally.

    Being prisoner, they will then have a chance to get a hot meal and medical help in the prisoner camps. If they are lucky they can recharge their mobile phone and make video contact to their papa and mama in their country that thy are still alive and
    not to go out to buy a coffin for them yet. If they surrendered they will have to tell the prisoner camp commandant what they were doing in Ukraine and who paid them to be mercenaries for Ukraine.

    Ukraine wants to have lots of them because if these mercenaries get killed in the war, they will give US a chance to say how merciless the Russia is in killing these foreign civilian volunteers, instead. US will instruct their licking Western media
    to write as much as possible in including lies and fabrications and manufacturing of stories and scripting up new titles for their headings in TV media.

    If the mercenaries were captured alive or surrendered, Ukraine will have nothing to give to US but giving how bad their prisoners were treated instead Russia will then used these captured mercenaries and Ukraine to put them on the negotiation to US
    that it has the chips on them.
    Another issue. American and/or NATO operatives could be trapped in Mariupol. IF true, they would be the real prize.
    Would not be surprised be Austria’s Chancellor Karl Nehamme's meeting with Putin was an effort to seek
    their release.


    Those mercenaries are now trapped there. They now have been given the chance to surrender by the dateline. Russian forces will spray them to deaths if they failed to obey. US could be using Ukraine to maximize the claims these mercenaries are civilians
    instead.

    When they died they could disguise them as civilians. They could remove the military uniform from the dead bodies and change them to civilian clothing. They could also laid the bodies in different layouts to show they were killed by Russian forces.

    It is not difficult for anyone to write a script of these scenarios so that the dead story of civilians could be faked up and easily placed around by employed movie director and its movie team set like cameramen and lightings workmen.

    The dead scene can then movie-recorded by movie cameraman and director and producer. The scene is then shown to visiting minister from the NATO countries and they will then declared the "dead civilian" disguised by civilian as genocide.

    Then they will file a criminal law case against Russia for the killing of them as civilians when in fact they were mercenaries employed as pre-paid military combat soldiers for heir experience to fight on behalf of Ukraine at Russia. It is expected for
    any country to flush and kill those mercenaries and not treated them as foreign civilians.

    Hence, a movie script could not being scripted up by the US to let these mercenaries died under fires by Russian forces, and they then go in to change the dead bodies of their military uniform to civilian uniform.

    Don't you think such movie script can be created in order to blame Russia's wholesale for the killing of mercenaries.? Once the blame game started, the US and its allies will give more sanctions at Russia again.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to stoney on Mon Apr 18 11:38:02 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 12:49:55 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 10:21:18 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:07:40 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13:26 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/ukraine-banned-negotiations-on-surrender-to-shoot-anyone-who-lay-down-arms-russian-mod-articleshow.html

    "As the Russia-Ukraine war continues unabated for Day 53, the Russian Defence Ministry on Sunday claimed that Kyiv has banned negotiations on surrender and has ordered the Ukrainian armed forces to shoot anyone who wants to lay down their arms.
    In their operational briefing, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has stated that high-precision air-launched missiles have annihilated an ammunition production plant in Ukraine's capital city, Kyiv.

    The Ministry also informed that up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group. "In total, since the beginning of the special operation, the Kyiv regime has attracted 6824 foreign
    mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine. On Saturday, April 16, a special operation was carried out in the Primorsky district of Mariupol to free hostages in a Turkish mosque. The hostages, citizens of one of the CIS countries, were released and taken
    to a safe place," they informed."

    A new kind of warfare raising some questions.

    War Crime
    Mercenaries are rewarded for killing humans. They probably have less hesitancy killing civilians. Their involvement certainly adds a dimension on war crimes committed on the Ukraine battlefield.

    Hostage
    Mariupol is currently under siege. But the seeming fighters were not allowed to negotiate a surrender. Are Ukraine leaders betting on Russian inhibition killing European and Canadian fighters?

    If these mercenary fighters were captured, would Russia use them negotiation in post conflict settlement?

    King Solomon's test
    Looks like these foreign fighters worth more to Ukraine if they were killed by Russian attack?
    And they would worth more to Russia as negotiation chips if captured alive?

    Prisoners' Delimma
    I bet both Mariupol's trapped Ukrainian commanders and the foreign fighters know what they are face. What would they choose?
    They are employed as mercenaries by state actor of power and hence they have to fulfill their prepaid job. They know they will have to fulfill their deployments to anywhere either win or lose in the fight.

    However, they know they rather not to die in their job, for it is just a salaried job for them to earn a living from using their enjoyment of experiencing of killing people in their war in other countries. They love to kill people and hence they
    called themselves as mercenaries. They are hired for killing. They are assassinator, rapist, robbers, and widow breakers.

    When they know they don't want to die they then set their mind not to get killed. They will either fight all the way to win. If they cannot win, they will have to lose to avoid being killed. The only way for them to lose is to
    surrender totally.

    Being prisoner, they will then have a chance to get a hot meal and medical help in the prisoner camps. If they are lucky they can recharge their mobile phone and make video contact to their papa and mama in their country that thy are still alive
    and not to go out to buy a coffin for them yet. If they surrendered they will have to tell the prisoner camp commandant what they were doing in Ukraine and who paid them to be mercenaries for Ukraine.

    Ukraine wants to have lots of them because if these mercenaries get killed in the war, they will give US a chance to say how merciless the Russia is in killing these foreign civilian volunteers, instead. US will instruct their licking Western media
    to write as much as possible in including lies and fabrications and manufacturing of stories and scripting up new titles for their headings in TV media.

    If the mercenaries were captured alive or surrendered, Ukraine will have nothing to give to US but giving how bad their prisoners were treated instead Russia will then used these captured mercenaries and Ukraine to put them on the negotiation to US
    that it has the chips on them.
    Another issue. American and/or NATO operatives could be trapped in Mariupol. IF true, they would be the real prize.
    Would not be surprised be Austria’s Chancellor Karl Nehamme's meeting with Putin was an effort to seek
    their release.
    Those mercenaries are now trapped there. They now have been given the chance to surrender by the dateline. Russian forces will spray them to deaths if they failed to obey. US could be using Ukraine to maximize the claims these mercenaries are civilians
    instead.

    When they died they could disguise them as civilians. They could remove the military uniform from the dead bodies and change them to civilian clothing. They could also laid the bodies in different layouts to show they were killed by Russian forces.

    It is not difficult for anyone to write a script of these scenarios so that the dead story of civilians could be faked up and easily placed around by employed movie director and its movie team set like cameramen and lightings workmen.

    The dead scene can then movie-recorded by movie cameraman and director and producer. The scene is then shown to visiting minister from the NATO countries and they will then declared the "dead civilian" disguised by civilian as genocide.

    Then they will file a criminal law case against Russia for the killing of them as civilians when in fact they were mercenaries employed as pre-paid military combat soldiers for heir experience to fight on behalf of Ukraine at Russia. It is expected for
    any country to flush and kill those mercenaries and not treated them as foreign civilians.

    Hence, a movie script could not being scripted up by the US to let these mercenaries died under fires by Russian forces, and they then go in to change the dead bodies of their military uniform to civilian uniform.

    Don't you think such movie script can be created in order to blame Russia's wholesale for the killing of mercenaries.? Once the blame game started, the US and its allies will give more sanctions at Russia again.

    Don't know what the US/NATO will or will not do.
    Both sides would tell their stories. The issue is whose story is more convincing.

    https://www.donbass-insider.com/2022/04/02/mariupol-strange-attempt-to-evacuate-azov-officers-by-helicopter-fails/
    "On 31 March 2022, several helicopters attempted to evacuate officers of the Azov regiment from Mariupol, where they are completely surrounded. ...
    It should be noted that this is not the first evacuation attempt in Mariupol. On 28 March, the DPR People’s Militia shot down a helicopter that was supposed to evacuate the Azov Regiment Commander Prokopenko and the 36th Brigade Commander of the UAF,
    Baraniouk. Then, on 30 March, another attempt was made but the pilot became frightened by DPR air defense fire and the helicopter turned back before it reached Mariupol.
    Interestingly, it was between these two failed evacuation attempts that Emmanuel Macron made a phone call to Vladimir Putin to discuss this famous evacuation of Mariupol!

    As a result, Russian journalists are lost in theories about the real identity of the people who justify risking so many helicopters to evacuate them from Mariupol. Indeed, it seems strange that Kiev would go to such lengths to evacuate the commanders of
    Azov and the 36th brigade of the UAF, while the option of retreat has always been refused by the Ukrainian general staff, who prefer their soldiers to become “martyrs”.

    However, given Emmanuel Macron’s eagerness to launch an evacuation operation in Mariupol, there is speculation that French intelligence officers or trainers may have been among those to be evacuated from the city, while the areas where Ukrainian
    soldiers have taken refuge are shrinking and are now isolated (the cauldron has been split in two).

    https://twitter.com/abunin/status/1509874461104820224

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