• U.S., more than any other country, should reflect on hypocritical democ

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 16 14:32:42 2022
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions around
    the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and southwest
    China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the U.S. as
    a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should apply to
    everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present, including
    the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About 100,000
    people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the country
    fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in 2020
    released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and urged
    the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and use
    democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct instructor
    with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 16 14:47:55 2022
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions around
    the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and southwest
    China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the U.S.
    as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should apply
    to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About 100,000
    people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in 2020
    released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and urged
    the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and use
    democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct instructor
    with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."

    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.

    BTW, when was the last time you abandoned your comfortable life in the US and returned to China?

    Get it yet?

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 16 15:45:39 2022
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions
    around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and
    southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the U.
    S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should
    apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About 100,
    000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in
    2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and
    urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and use
    democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.

    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?

    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?

    BTW, when was the last time you abandoned your comfortable life in the US and returned to China?
    What I live is irrelevant.

    Disagree.

    Get it yet?
    Still waiting to get a win a winning LOTTO ticket.

    Don't bother.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sat Apr 16 15:34:51 2022
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions
    around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and
    southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the U.S.
    as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should apply
    to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About 100,
    000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in 2020
    released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and
    urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and use
    democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.

    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?

    BTW, when was the last time you abandoned your comfortable life in the US and returned to China?

    What I live is irrelevant.


    Get it yet?
    Still waiting to get a win a winning LOTTO ticket.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sat Apr 16 17:26:38 2022
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions
    around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and
    southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the
    U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should
    apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About
    100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in
    2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and
    urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and
    use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?

    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.

    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only Robinson
    framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000 deaths to
    preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers waiting for
    the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes QAnon as
    a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that conspired
    against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused many
    Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group far into
    the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK Jr. as his
    vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid
    It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the engineers at
    Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “We might have
    just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 17 10:31:38 2022
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of
    its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed
    the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should
    apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About
    100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in
    the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in
    2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible
    and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and
    use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?

    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.

    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.

    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.

    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only Robinson
    framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000 deaths to
    preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers waiting for
    the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes QAnon as
    “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that conspired
    against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused many
    Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group far
    into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK Jr. as
    his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid
    It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the engineers
    at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “We might
    have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"

    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the same
    silliness and deception, that's for sure.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sun Apr 17 11:22:41 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of
    its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed
    the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in
    the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households
    in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible
    and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games
    and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only Robinson
    framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000 deaths to
    preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers waiting
    for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes QAnon
    as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that
    conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused many
    Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group far
    into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK Jr. as
    his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid
    It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the engineers
    at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “We might
    have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the same
    silliness and deception, that's for sure.

    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.
    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 17 17:02:20 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:22:43 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession
    of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy
    in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.


    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games
    and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only
    Robinson framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000 deaths to
    preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers waiting
    for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes
    QAnon as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that
    conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused many
    Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group far
    into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK Jr.
    as his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid
    It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the
    engineers at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “
    We might have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the same
    silliness and deception, that's for sure.
    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.

    How can we know? Statistics are suppressed. You know that. The PRC targets dissidents. You know that too.

    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.

    There are no reliable surveys out of China.

    You lie. Wake up.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 17 17:55:40 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:22:43 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession
    of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy
    in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.


    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games
    and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only
    Robinson framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000 deaths to
    preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers waiting
    for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes
    QAnon as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that
    conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused many
    Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group far
    into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK Jr.
    as his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid
    It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the
    engineers at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “
    We might have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the same
    silliness and deception, that's for sure.
    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.
    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.

    He cannot tell as he does not have figures nor analysis of his own, and neither have the analytical skill to read and understand that he succumbed to interrogatory abusive remarks to personal attack to deflate you instead.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to stoney on Sun Apr 17 18:44:52 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:55:41 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:22:43 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the
    recession of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life
    expectancy in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every
    day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum
    games and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck,
    adjunct instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.


    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only
    Robinson framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000 deaths
    to preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers
    waiting for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes
    QAnon as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that
    conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused
    many Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group
    far into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK Jr.
    as his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the
    engineers at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “
    We might have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the
    same silliness and deception, that's for sure.
    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.
    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.
    He cannot tell as he does not have figures nor analysis of his own, and neither have the analytical skill to read and understand that he succumbed to interrogatory abusive remarks to personal attack to deflate you instead.

    Well stoney, you have offered nothing remotely factual. Nor has Mr. Lee. Just innuendo.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From stoney@21:1/5 to bmoore on Sun Apr 17 20:21:20 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC+8, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:55:41 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:22:43 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries
    and regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the
    recession of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic
    standards should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by
    torture. About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life
    expectancy in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every
    day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum
    games and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck,
    adjunct instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights
    cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only
    Robinson framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000
    deaths to preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers
    waiting for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes
    QAnon as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that
    conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused
    many Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group
    far into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK
    Jr. as his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the
    engineers at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “
    We might have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the
    same silliness and deception, that's for sure.
    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.
    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.
    He cannot tell as he does not have figures nor analysis of his own, and neither have the analytical skill to read and understand that he succumbed to interrogatory abusive remarks to personal attack to deflate you instead.
    Well stoney, you have offered nothing remotely factual. Nor has Mr. Lee. Just innuendo.

    You know nuts. You are shallowly educated with zero mass left in your analytical part of your brain and hence you cannot think and read in depth. This means you cannot not even starting writing an analysis of several lines on the subject in the content
    of the article that posted on the topic title above. If you cannot even write 5 lines of your analyses on the article that posted in the heading, you are a nobody to talk with. You should not come here to interject and cast insults at posters when they
    writing their opinions on the article and not on you. Don't be a stupid man. Which state and school did you study in and what is your grade level. Can you write your own analysis on your own on the topic of the article posted?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to stoney on Sun Apr 17 20:42:30 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:21:21 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC+8, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:55:41 PM UTC-7, stoney wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:22:43 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries
    and regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the
    recession of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic
    standards should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by
    torture. About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life
    expectancy in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence
    every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum
    games and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck,
    adjunct instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights
    cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example: https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only
    Robinson framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000
    deaths to preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers
    waiting for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which
    describes QAnon as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking
    ring that conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused
    many Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious
    group far into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK
    Jr. as his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the
    engineers at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “
    We might have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating
    the same silliness and deception, that's for sure.
    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.
    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.
    He cannot tell as he does not have figures nor analysis of his own, and neither have the analytical skill to read and understand that he succumbed to interrogatory abusive remarks to personal attack to deflate you instead.
    Well stoney, you have offered nothing remotely factual. Nor has Mr. Lee. Just innuendo.
    You know nuts. You are shallowly educated with zero mass left in your analytical part of your brain and hence you cannot think and read in depth. This means you cannot not even starting writing an analysis of several lines on the subject in the content
    of the article that posted on the topic title above. If you cannot even write 5 lines of your analyses on the article that posted in the heading, you are a nobody to talk with. You should not come here to interject and cast insults at posters when they
    writing their opinions on the article and not on you. Don't be a stupid man. Which state and school did you study in and what is your grade level. Can you write your own analysis on your own on the topic of the article posted?

    stoney, you are a young man, that is clear. That's good! Your mind is not yet polluted to the extent that Mr. Lee's is. There is hope for you!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Mon Apr 18 05:47:07 2022
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:02:22 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:22:43 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the
    recession of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life
    expectancy in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every
    day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum
    games and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck,
    adjunct instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.


    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only
    Robinson framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000 deaths
    to preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers
    waiting for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes
    QAnon as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that
    conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused
    many Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group
    far into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK Jr.
    as his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the
    engineers at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “
    We might have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the
    same silliness and deception, that's for sure.
    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.
    How can we know? Statistics are suppressed. You know that. The PRC targets dissidents. You know that too.

    Thank you for admitting that you have no fact to base your accusation.


    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.
    There are no reliable surveys out of China.

    You lie. Wake up.

    Whatever.
    Chinese people are not suffering.
    Americans are suffering. Why?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 11:08:32 2022
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions around
    the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and southwest
    China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the U.S.
    as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should apply
    to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About 100,000
    people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in 2020
    released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and urged
    the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and use
    democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct instructor
    with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."

    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 10:37:37 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:47:09 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:02:22 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 11:22:43 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:31:39 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:47:56 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:32:44 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries
    and regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the
    recession of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic
    standards should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by
    torture. About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life
    expectancy in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every
    day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum
    games and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck,
    adjunct instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights
    cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    The Chinese human rights situation is beyond repair, yet you focus on the US. Interesting.
    Not according to CHINESE standard.
    In addition, I had trying hard to find cases about Chinese violation, I has yet to find any solid case in Tibet and Xinjiang.
    I mostly quote US sources to discussion happening in the US hoping to understand the US more.
    I quote Chinese sources to reflect Chinese view.
    Not the Chinese view. The Chinese government view.

    How about you?
    Would you quote PRC sources for discussion?
    Any PRC sources not filtered through government censorship?
    If you mean people are biased because they are part of a certain community, such bias is
    everywhere.

    If you have something more specific, please inform and provide examples and/or statistics
    to substantiate your point.
    As a starter, what do you mean by government censorship?
    Wow, so disingenous. Try to start an independent newspaper in the PRC and get back to us.
    How does it operate?
    And to what degree does it make PRC news a lot less meaningful or reliable than US
    partisanship, race, sponsor censored press? Does PRC press dumb down the Chinese
    people like the US is dumbing Americans and worse people.
    PRC press constantly lies outright, you must know that. America has free press, it's up to us to decide what is valid. No such choice exists in PRC.

    No real dissent allowed in the PRC. Been that way for a long time, much longer than you have been disingenuously asserting otherwise. Yawn.
    Example:
    https://news.yahoo.com/dumbing-down-america-184157289.html

    "The dumbing down of America
    Dan Tackett
    6-7 minutes
    I enjoy reading opinion pieces in the newspaper. Sometimes I agree with the writer; other times I disagree. Whatever, I think it’s good to understand the varying viewpoints of the day.
    One of my favorite columnists is Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post. He definitely leans to the left, but more importantly, he leans heavily on common sense. Last month, he nailed it with a column about the dumbing down of America, only
    Robinson framed it into a more blistering description. He expressed his personal fear the country is quickly diving into “lip-blubbering, self-destructive idiocy. How did we become, in such alarming measure, so dumb?”
    He cited what he believes are clear examples of a dumb America, including Congress too often flirting with economic chaos and disaster, all in the name of politics, to the large segment of citizens who deny science and ignore some 700,000
    deaths to preach against the evils of COVID-19 vaccinations.
    Evidently, some folks on the loonier side of reality read Robinson’s column and set out to give him even more and stronger proof we as a country are going bonkers. I’m referring to two recent news stories, one involving QAnon believers
    waiting for the dead to return in Dallas and the other, an attack by right-wing Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas against Sesame Street’s Big Bird. Yes, you read that last part correctly; you can’t make things like this up.
    First, the QAnon tale. I will tell you truthfully, even though I’ve heard the term “QAnon” many times on the news, I’m still a bit puzzled by what it is. Is it a group? An individual? I turned to Wikipedia for its take, which describes
    QAnon as “a far-right conspiracy theory and movement centered on false claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals, known by the name ‘Q,’ that a cabal of Satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles operate a global child sex trafficking ring that
    conspired against former president Donald Trump during his term in office. QAnon has been described as a cult.

    “One shared belief among QAnon members is that Trump was planning a massive sting operation on the cabal, with mass arrests of thousands of cabal members to take place on a day known as The Storm.’ QAnon supporters have baselessly accused
    many Hollywood actors, Democratic politicians, and high-ranking government officials of being members of the cabal.”

    If you are still scratching your head, still wondering what QAnon is, sorry, I can’t offer more understanding than the Wikipedia explanation. What happened in recent days in Dallas, Texas, has truly skewed my viewpoint of the mysterious group
    far into the Twilight Zone.

    A group of QAnon disciples gathered in Dallas to await the promised Nov. 2 return of John F. Kennedy Jr.

    QAnon had promised its many followers that JFK Jr. was returning to Dealey Plaza, where his father, President John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, to declare Donald Trump president of the United States. Not only that, Trump intended to name JFK
    Jr. as his vice president."

    And from the current edition of TheAtlantic.com https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

    "Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid It’s not just a phase.
    ...
    This new game encouraged dishonesty and mob dynamics: Users were guided not just by their true preferences but by their past experiences of reward and punishment, and their prediction of how others would react to each new action. One of the
    engineers at Twitter who had worked on the “Retweet” button later revealed that he regretted his contribution because it had made Twitter a nastier place. As he watched Twitter mobs forming through the use of the new tool, he thought to himself, “
    We might have just handed a 4-year-old a loaded weapon.”"
    Free press does not always publish the truth, but in the PRC trying to publish the truth can get you in a lot of trouble. No comparison with the US. There is no credible argument you have made in response so far, but you'll keep on repeating the
    same silliness and deception, that's for sure.
    It is very obvious that American Free press does not EDIFY Americans. The goal of free press is to make
    their readers more informed, more capable and better citizens. The outcome is the opposite. It makes
    them worse, materially and spiritually.

    Concerning Chinese press, please tell exactly how many people were in trouble for trying to publish what truth.
    How can we know? Statistics are suppressed. You know that. The PRC targets dissidents. You know that too.
    Thank you for admitting that you have no fact to base your accusation.

    You are not fooling anyone.

    China has 1.4 billion people. It would have a large number of smart people as well as a large number of foolish
    people. Chinese officials certainly could make mistakes for various reasons. But it would not meaningful
    unless one examines the whole picture based of reliable statistics or surveys.
    There are no reliable surveys out of China.

    You lie. Wake up.
    Whatever.
    Chinese people are not suffering.
    Americans are suffering. Why?

    You are not fooling anyone.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 11:57:44 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions
    around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and
    southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the U.S.
    as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should apply
    to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About 100,
    000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in 2020
    released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and
    urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and use
    democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips

    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.

    Another true thing is that the PRC dictatorship tries very hard to suppress information about how they target dissidents, as all authoritarian regimes do. That way, they can indignantly say that they don't threaten, beat and jail dissidents, and
    apologists can use the difficulty of getting information as way of denying what they damn well know is true. Of course, they are also shameless enough to deny it even when it's really obvious. No thinking person believes them, but they never stop trying.
    Russia, of course, is also guilty of this heinousness.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled untruths.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Mon Apr 18 17:40:08 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions
    around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and
    southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the U.
    S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should
    apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About 100,
    000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in
    2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and
    urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and use
    democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.

    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in."

    Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.

    Another true thing is that the PRC dictatorship tries very hard to suppress information about how they target dissidents, as all authoritarian regimes do. That way, they can indignantly say that they don't threaten, beat and jail dissidents, and
    apologists can use the difficulty of getting information as way of denying what they damn well know is true. Of course, they are also shameless enough to deny it even when it's really obvious. No thinking person believes them, but they never stop trying.
    Russia, of course, is also guilty of this heinousness.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled untruths.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 19 07:18:52 2022
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:40:10 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and regions
    around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, and
    southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of its
    democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed the
    U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should
    apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About
    100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in the
    country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in
    2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible and
    urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and
    use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.
    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in."
    Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.

    Of course he's wrong. Trump is dangerous.

    But why do you always focus on the US, on soc.culture.china? Don't you think the nasty way China treats its dissidents is worthy of discussion? Or will you just pretend the problem doesn't exist, or innocently say "Please offer evidence that China treats
    its dissidents badly," like you always do? Because you can't honestly tell me you have no idea what I'm referring to, or that there is nothing to the claims. Can you?.


    Another true thing is that the PRC dictatorship tries very hard to suppress information about how they target dissidents, as all authoritarian regimes do. That way, they can indignantly say that they don't threaten, beat and jail dissidents, and
    apologists can use the difficulty of getting information as way of denying what they damn well know is true. Of course, they are also shameless enough to deny it even when it's really obvious. No thinking person believes them, but they never stop trying.
    Russia, of course, is also guilty of this heinousness.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled untruths.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Tue Apr 19 08:31:57 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:40:10 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of
    its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed
    the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should
    apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About
    100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in
    the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in
    2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible
    and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and
    use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.
    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in."
    Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.
    Of course he's wrong. Trump is dangerous.

    But why do you always focus on the US, on soc.culture.china?
    The topic of this thread is how Chinese see US democracy and human rights situation:
    "U.S., more than any other country, should reflect on hypocritical democracy, deteriorating human rights situation"

    Don't you think the nasty way China treats its dissidents is worthy of discussion? Or will you just pretend the problem doesn't exist, or innocently say "Please offer evidence that China treats its dissidents badly," like you always do? Because you can'
    t honestly tell me you have no idea what I'm referring to, or that there is nothing to the claims. Can you?.

    What nasty way China is treating its dissidents?
    There won't be meaning discussion unless someone can provide evidence. It is your freedom to
    demonize China without evidence. I am not like you. I don't criticize China nor the US without
    evidence.



    Another true thing is that the PRC dictatorship tries very hard to suppress information about how they target dissidents, as all authoritarian regimes do. That way, they can indignantly say that they don't threaten, beat and jail dissidents, and
    apologists can use the difficulty of getting information as way of denying what they damn well know is true. Of course, they are also shameless enough to deny it even when it's really obvious. No thinking person believes them, but they never stop trying.
    Russia, of course, is also guilty of this heinousness.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled untruths.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Tue Apr 19 08:48:14 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:40:10 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of
    its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed
    the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards should
    apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture. About
    100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in
    the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households in
    2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible
    and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games and
    use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.
    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in."
    Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.
    Of course he's wrong. Trump is dangerous.

    Let me refocus on the Chinese view concerning US hypocritical democracy.
    Given that you, like some other prominent Democrats agree that "democracy MAY end democracy."
    The obvious conclusion is that "democracy" means two things in the above clause.
    One interpretation is <democracy as a procedure> MAY end <democracy as an outcome.>
    What then is American and other Western democracy? Are they real democracy? If voting
    per democratic rule MAY end democracy, why should anyone take voting as a must have
    feature of democracy?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 20 07:26:25 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:48:16 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:40:10 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of
    its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed
    the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in
    the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households
    in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible
    and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games
    and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.
    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in."
    Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.
    Of course he's wrong. Trump is dangerous.

    Let me refocus on the Chinese view concerning US hypocritical democracy. Given that you, like some other prominent Democrats agree that "democracy MAY end democracy."
    The obvious conclusion is that "democracy" means two things in the above clause.
    One interpretation is <democracy as a procedure> MAY end <democracy as an outcome.>
    What then is American and other Western democracy? Are they real democracy? If voting
    per democratic rule MAY end democracy, why should anyone take voting as a must have
    feature of democracy?

    Your convoluted ramblings contribute little to the discussion.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 20 07:25:02 2022
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:31:58 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:40:10 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human rights
    situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession of
    its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans viewed
    the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at present,
    including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy in
    the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S. Households
    in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was terrible
    and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games
    and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.
    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in."
    Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.
    Of course he's wrong. Trump is dangerous.

    But why do you always focus on the US, on soc.culture.china?
    The topic of this thread is how Chinese see US democracy and human rights situation:
    "U.S., more than any other country, should reflect on hypocritical democracy, deteriorating human rights situation"
    Don't you think the nasty way China treats its dissidents is worthy of discussion? Or will you just pretend the problem doesn't exist, or innocently say "Please offer evidence that China treats its dissidents badly," like you always do? Because you
    can't honestly tell me you have no idea what I'm referring to, or that there is nothing to the claims. Can you?.
    What nasty way China is treating its dissidents?

    You're not fooling anyone.

    There won't be meaning discussion unless someone can provide evidence. It is your freedom to
    demonize China without evidence.

    There will never be meaningful discussion with you on some topics. Despite the PRC's heavy-handed attempts to suppress evidence, there is plenty of evidence for those who choose to see it. Clearly, you choose not to see it.

    I am not like you. I don't criticize China nor the US without
    evidence.

    You have information only because of the free press in the US. And you twist and distort the evidence to support your twisted claims. No, you are not like me.

    Another true thing is that the PRC dictatorship tries very hard to suppress information about how they target dissidents, as all authoritarian regimes do. That way, they can indignantly say that they don't threaten, beat and jail dissidents, and
    apologists can use the difficulty of getting information as way of denying what they damn well know is true. Of course, they are also shameless enough to deny it even when it's really obvious. No thinking person believes them, but they never stop trying.
    Russia, of course, is also guilty of this heinousness.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled untruths.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Thu Apr 21 04:34:50 2022
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:26:26 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:48:16 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:40:10 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the recession
    of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life expectancy
    in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every day.


    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum games
    and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck, adjunct
    instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.

    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.
    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in."
    Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.
    Of course he's wrong. Trump is dangerous.

    Let me refocus on the Chinese view concerning US hypocritical democracy. Given that you, like some other prominent Democrats agree that "democracy MAY end democracy."
    The obvious conclusion is that "democracy" means two things in the above clause.
    One interpretation is <democracy as a procedure> MAY end <democracy as an outcome.>
    What then is American and other Western democracy? Are they real democracy? If voting
    per democratic rule MAY end democracy, why should anyone take voting as a must have
    feature of democracy?
    Your convoluted ramblings contribute little to the discussion.

    Per you admission: Democracy in the US may end democracy.
    Please elaborate and contribute to the defence of US democracy.
    First of all, do the two "democracy" have the same meaning?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 21 07:39:23 2022
    On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 4:34:51 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:26:26 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 8:48:16 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:40:10 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:57:46 PM UTC-4, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 11:08:33 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0416/c90000-10084819.html
    "The U.S. has thoroughly exposed its hypocrisy and double standards on human rights issues by staging farce of politicizing human rights issues year after year while turning a blind eye to the continuous deterioration of its own human
    rights situation.

    On April 12, the U.S. Department of State issued the so-called annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2021. The report filled with lies and prejudice pointed fingers at the human rights situation of nearly 200 countries and
    regions around the world, and, just like its predecessors released in previous years did, discredited and smeared China on issues including those related to northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, Hong Kong Special Administrative Region,
    and southwest China’s Tibet autonomous region.

    A U.S. politician recently claimed that there has been “an alarming recession of democracy, the rule of law, respect for human rights in many parts of the world.” As a matter of fact, it is the U.S. that should reflect on the
    recession of its democracy and human rights situation more than any other country.

    The January 2021 Capitol Hill attack has revealed to the world the reality of American democracy disorder.

    A national public opinion poll of America’s 18- to 29-year-olds showed that 52 percent of the respondents believed that the American democracy was “in trouble” or “failing,” and only 7 percent of the surveyed young Americans
    viewed the U.S. as a “healthy democracy”, according to an article published on the website of the Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School on Dec. 1, 2021.

    “While President Biden is hosting a global democracy summit, our own democracy right here is falling apart,” an article in USA Today quoted Cliff Albright, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a voting rights group, as saying.

    “The United States must first lead by example and address its own failings,” the article said.

    U.S. President Joe Biden should be “entirely honest about the grave problems in his own country’s democracy”, according to an article published in American magazine The National Interest, which stressed that “democratic standards
    should apply to everyone, and are not just a vocabulary that the powerful use to lecture the weak.”

    While repeatedly hyping up lies including the false allegations of the so-called “genocide” and “forced labor” in Xinjiang, politicians in the U.S. chose to forget their country’s disgraceful records in history as well as at
    present, including the slaughter of Indians, forced labor, and appalling prisoner abuse at black sites set up by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) all over the world.

    The U.S. has a long and dark history of violating the rights of indigenous people, including Indians, who have experienced bloody massacres, brutal expulsions and cultural genocide.

    Under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the actions of the U.S. constitute genocide, pointed out The Washington Post.

    The U.S. has been faced with serious problems of human trafficking and forced labor. In the past five years, up to 100,000 people have been trafficked into the U.S. for forced labor annually.

    The reality is slavery never ended in America, said an article published on the website of Richmond Times-Dispatch, the major daily newspaper in Richmond, Virginia.

    The U.S. has set up black sites in at least 54 countries and regions around the world under the pretext of “War on Terror”, and secretly put the alleged terrorist suspects under arbitrary detention and extorted confessions by torture.
    About 100,000 people have been detained, and the detainees include Muslims, females and children. These black sites are ironclad evidence of America’s willful trampling on the rule of law and violation of human rights.

    The U.S. should really make efforts to alleviate its deteriorating human rights situation, instead of making indiscreet remarks on the human rights situation of other countries.

    Over the past more than two years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. has reported a cumulative total of more than 80 million confirmed cases and nearly one million deaths from the virus, while the average life
    expectancy in the country fell by 1.13 years, becoming the world’s No. 1 anti-pandemic failure.

    The combined assets of the richest one percent of Americans were nearly 16 times that of the poorest 50 percent, and the gap between rich and poor has been aggravated, according to the Report on the Economic Well-Being of the U.S.
    Households in 2020 released by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the U.S.

    The “virus” of deeply-entrenched racism in the U.S. has been spreading along with the novel coronavirus, with racial economic divide increasingly widening and racial inequality continuously growing.

    Gun violence has been on the rise in the U.S. At least 10,362 people were killed by gun violence in the U.S. in the first three months of 2022, and an average of more than 115 people in the country lose their lives to gun violence every
    day.

    In March 2021, during the review of the outcomes of the Universal Periodic Review of the U.S. by the 46th session of the United Nations Human Rights Council, many countries pointed out that the human rights situation in the U.S. was
    terrible and urged the country to immediately stop human rights violations in all forms and take practical measures to avoid further deterioration of human rights situation.

    By politicizing and weaponizing human rights issues, the U.S. has wantonly interfered in the internal affairs of other countries and maintained its hegemony under the pretext of human rights.

    In recent years, the rise in China’s comprehensive national strength has given some politicians in the U.S. the “anxiety disorder”. Sticking to the Cold War mentality, these politicians have racked their brains to play zero-sum
    games and use democracy and human rights as tools to smear China and whitewash their own hegemonic acts.

    The so-called human rights advocated by the U.S. government are not in the least related to the genuine concept and that the country only takes advantage of the banner of human rights to advance its global strategy, said James Peck,
    adjunct instructor with New York University in History and East Asia Departments.

    Democracy is by no means the prerogative of a few nations, and should not become a tool used by one country to put pressure on other countries and engage in political blackmail.

    The U.S. has acted against the trend of history and intensified efforts to promote politicization of human rights issues in a bid to safeguard its hegemonic interests, seriously hindering the sound development of global human rights cause.


    The U.S. government should immediately stop fabricating the so-called Country Reports on Human Rights Practices and concentrate its energies on facing up to and improving its own human rights situation."
    One funny thing about US hypocritical democracy is that many still don't know when is a democracy
    a democracy. While Democrats worry that GOP action are killing democracy, GOP supporters insist that
    GOP are doing democratic things.

    From Democrat's point of view:
    "During a panel discussion on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," frequent guest Donny Deutsch claimed that if Democrats
    cannot understand what wins elections than "democracy is over."

    "If we don’t get this right this time it’s over. You put McCarthy back in, you put Trump back in our democracy is
    over. I’m not overstating it. That’s where we’re at. And the Democrats have to understand what wins elections and
    what loses elections," Deutsch said. " https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cbs-democrats-fearmonger-gop-death-democracy

    From GOP's point of view:
    "Trey Gowdy: Democracy will never be the end of democracy" https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304242538001#sp=show-clips
    One true thing is that the US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in.
    Again.
    Trey Gowdy: "Democracy will never be the end of democracy."
    bmoore: "US cannot afford to put the oafish Trump back in." Question: Is bmoore saying Trey Gowdy wrong? That is, democracy MAY end democracy
    as proclaimed by some other Democrats such as Donny Deuthsch.
    Of course he's wrong. Trump is dangerous.

    Let me refocus on the Chinese view concerning US hypocritical democracy. Given that you, like some other prominent Democrats agree that "democracy MAY end democracy."
    The obvious conclusion is that "democracy" means two things in the above clause.
    One interpretation is <democracy as a procedure> MAY end <democracy as an outcome.>
    What then is American and other Western democracy? Are they real democracy? If voting
    per democratic rule MAY end democracy, why should anyone take voting as a must have
    feature of democracy?
    Your convoluted ramblings contribute little to the discussion.
    Per you admission: Democracy in the US may end democracy.

    No, Trump may end democracy if we are not vigilant.

    Please elaborate and contribute to the defence of US democracy.

    Why?

    First of all, do the two "democracy" have the same meaning?

    Only one democracy, but many different views of it.

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