"The European Union’s foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell has dismissed last week’s high-profile summit with China as a “dialogue of the deaf”, saying that Chinese leaders “did not want to talk about Ukraine”.Strasbourg, France.
In a stronger than usual rebuke of Beijing by Brussels’ top diplomat, Borrell told the European Parliament on Tuesday evening that Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and President Xi Jinping wanted to “instead focus on the positive things”.
“China wanted to set aside our differences on Ukraine, they didn’t want to talk about Ukraine. They didn’t want to talk about human rights and other stuff and instead focus on positive things,” Borrell said during a fiery debate on China in
“This was not exactly a dialogue, maybe a dialogue of the deaf … we could not talk about Ukraine a lot, and we did not agree on anything else,” he continued.
"The first bilateral summit in almost two years took place via video link on Friday, with Borrell joined by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President Charles Michel.
The European side entered the talks determined to press China on its position on the Russian war against Ukraine, which it has failed to condemn.
Borrell confirmed again that the Chinese leadership did not commit to withhold military or economic support from Russia.
“The Chinese side stuck to their general statements of wishing to see peace, we are a peaceful people, we don’t invade others, asking for de-escalation, but avoiding specific commitments or avoiding any sort of line on Russia,” he told lawmakers.
China, however, “does have a red line” on Russia, Borrell said, “which is weapons of mass destruction”."
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3173188/eu-china-summit-was-dialogue-deaf-says-top-brussels-diplomat
On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:05:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:Strasbourg, France.
"The European Union’s foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell has dismissed last week’s high-profile summit with China as a “dialogue of the deaf”, saying that Chinese leaders “did not want to talk about Ukraine”.
In a stronger than usual rebuke of Beijing by Brussels’ top diplomat, Borrell told the European Parliament on Tuesday evening that Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and President Xi Jinping wanted to “instead focus on the positive things”.
“China wanted to set aside our differences on Ukraine, they didn’t want to talk about Ukraine. They didn’t want to talk about human rights and other stuff and instead focus on positive things,” Borrell said during a fiery debate on China in
lawmakers.“This was not exactly a dialogue, maybe a dialogue of the deaf … we could not talk about Ukraine a lot, and we did not agree on anything else,” he continued.
"The first bilateral summit in almost two years took place via video link on Friday, with Borrell joined by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President Charles Michel.
The European side entered the talks determined to press China on its position on the Russian war against Ukraine, which it has failed to condemn.
Borrell confirmed again that the Chinese leadership did not commit to withhold military or economic support from Russia.
“The Chinese side stuck to their general statements of wishing to see peace, we are a peaceful people, we don’t invade others, asking for de-escalation, but avoiding specific commitments or avoiding any sort of line on Russia,” he told
China, however, “does have a red line” on Russia, Borrell said, “which is weapons of mass destruction”."
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3173188/eu-china-summit-was-dialogue-deaf-says-top-brussels-diplomatChina doesn't want to engage in Ukraine is to avoid into any mistaken understanding by the EU foreign affairs and sending back their analysis to presume what Xi had said to them. It is best to avoid the topic of Ukraine as it can be construed with BS
On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:59:10 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:Strasbourg, France.
On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:05:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
"The European Union’s foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell has dismissed last week’s high-profile summit with China as a “dialogue of the deaf”, saying that Chinese leaders “did not want to talk about Ukraine”.
In a stronger than usual rebuke of Beijing by Brussels’ top diplomat, Borrell told the European Parliament on Tuesday evening that Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and President Xi Jinping wanted to “instead focus on the positive things”.
“China wanted to set aside our differences on Ukraine, they didn’t want to talk about Ukraine. They didn’t want to talk about human rights and other stuff and instead focus on positive things,” Borrell said during a fiery debate on China in
lawmakers.“This was not exactly a dialogue, maybe a dialogue of the deaf … we could not talk about Ukraine a lot, and we did not agree on anything else,” he continued.
"The first bilateral summit in almost two years took place via video link on Friday, with Borrell joined by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President Charles Michel.
The European side entered the talks determined to press China on its position on the Russian war against Ukraine, which it has failed to condemn.
Borrell confirmed again that the Chinese leadership did not commit to withhold military or economic support from Russia.
“The Chinese side stuck to their general statements of wishing to see peace, we are a peaceful people, we don’t invade others, asking for de-escalation, but avoiding specific commitments or avoiding any sort of line on Russia,” he told
China, however, “does have a red line” on Russia, Borrell said, “which is weapons of mass destruction”."
1. China certainly wants war to end as soon as possible.https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3173188/eu-china-summit-was-dialogue-deaf-says-top-brussels-diplomatChina doesn't want to engage in Ukraine is to avoid into any mistaken understanding by the EU foreign affairs and sending back their analysis to presume what Xi had said to them. It is best to avoid the topic of Ukraine as it can be construed with BS
Does NATO want the war to end as soon as possible? Or does NATO want an occasion to bleed Russia? Ukraine is
then another Afghanistan.
Do they really care about Ukrainian death? Or such tragedy was viewed as a function of Russian death as well as
defense industry profit? For US companies, the war is a great opportunity to sell more weapon to Taiwan.
2. The current conflict is viewed by US and EU through the lens of democracy versus autocracy. Is this really the alpha and
omega of the conflict? Don't think so. Chinese people, probably, view the conflict through the lens of ethno-cultural nationalism
like the conflict between India and Pakistan over the sovereignty of Jammu and Kashmir. Or between the Israeli and the
Palestinians. Will third party taking side really solve the problem? Not at all. At present, India, Pakistan, and Israel all have nuclear
weapons.
Bilateral border must be bilaterally determined. A process but also an opportunity for both sides to balance short term
and long term cost and benefit.
On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:19:44 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:in Strasbourg, France.
On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:59:10 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:05:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
"The European Union’s foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell has dismissed last week’s high-profile summit with China as a “dialogue of the deaf”, saying that Chinese leaders “did not want to talk about Ukraine”.
In a stronger than usual rebuke of Beijing by Brussels’ top diplomat, Borrell told the European Parliament on Tuesday evening that Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and President Xi Jinping wanted to “instead focus on the positive things”.
“China wanted to set aside our differences on Ukraine, they didn’t want to talk about Ukraine. They didn’t want to talk about human rights and other stuff and instead focus on positive things,” Borrell said during a fiery debate on China
lawmakers.“This was not exactly a dialogue, maybe a dialogue of the deaf … we could not talk about Ukraine a lot, and we did not agree on anything else,” he continued.
"The first bilateral summit in almost two years took place via video link on Friday, with Borrell joined by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President Charles Michel.
The European side entered the talks determined to press China on its position on the Russian war against Ukraine, which it has failed to condemn.
Borrell confirmed again that the Chinese leadership did not commit to withhold military or economic support from Russia.
“The Chinese side stuck to their general statements of wishing to see peace, we are a peaceful people, we don’t invade others, asking for de-escalation, but avoiding specific commitments or avoiding any sort of line on Russia,” he told
BSChina, however, “does have a red line” on Russia, Borrell said, “which is weapons of mass destruction”."
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3173188/eu-china-summit-was-dialogue-deaf-says-top-brussels-diplomatChina doesn't want to engage in Ukraine is to avoid into any mistaken understanding by the EU foreign affairs and sending back their analysis to presume what Xi had said to them. It is best to avoid the topic of Ukraine as it can be construed with
1. China certainly wants war to end as soon as possible.
Does NATO want the war to end as soon as possible? Or does NATO want an occasion to bleed Russia? Ukraine is
then another Afghanistan.
Do they really care about Ukrainian death? Or such tragedy was viewed as a function of Russian death as well as
defense industry profit? For US companies, the war is a great opportunity to sell more weapon to Taiwan.
2. The current conflict is viewed by US and EU through the lens of democracy versus autocracy. Is this really the alpha and
omega of the conflict? Don't think so. Chinese people, probably, view the conflict through the lens of ethno-cultural nationalism
like the conflict between India and Pakistan over the sovereignty of Jammu and Kashmir. Or between the Israeli and the
Palestinians. Will third party taking side really solve the problem? Not at all. At present, India, Pakistan, and Israel all have nuclear
weapons.
Bilateral border must be bilaterally determined. A process but also an opportunity for both sides to balance short termAmong the countries mentioned above, there are several other countries can also have the same effect of ethno-cultural nationalism too. Bilateral border will not be the main consideration anymore if that has had been resolved long ago.
and long term cost and benefit.
It is the cross-border of people living between them that will be the ethno-culture of conflict between its class 1 citizens ( solely born and raised in the country) and 2nd class citizens ( becoming citizen after leaving their own country forelsewhere).
On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:59:10 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:Strasbourg, France.
On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:05:03 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
"The European Union’s foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell has dismissed last week’s high-profile summit with China as a “dialogue of the deaf”, saying that Chinese leaders “did not want to talk about Ukraine”.
In a stronger than usual rebuke of Beijing by Brussels’ top diplomat, Borrell told the European Parliament on Tuesday evening that Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and President Xi Jinping wanted to “instead focus on the positive things”.
“China wanted to set aside our differences on Ukraine, they didn’t want to talk about Ukraine. They didn’t want to talk about human rights and other stuff and instead focus on positive things,” Borrell said during a fiery debate on China in
lawmakers.“This was not exactly a dialogue, maybe a dialogue of the deaf … we could not talk about Ukraine a lot, and we did not agree on anything else,” he continued.
"The first bilateral summit in almost two years took place via video link on Friday, with Borrell joined by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and European Council President Charles Michel.
The European side entered the talks determined to press China on its position on the Russian war against Ukraine, which it has failed to condemn.
Borrell confirmed again that the Chinese leadership did not commit to withhold military or economic support from Russia.
“The Chinese side stuck to their general statements of wishing to see peace, we are a peaceful people, we don’t invade others, asking for de-escalation, but avoiding specific commitments or avoiding any sort of line on Russia,” he told
China, however, “does have a red line” on Russia, Borrell said, “which is weapons of mass destruction”."
1. China certainly wants war to end as soon as possible.https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3173188/eu-china-summit-was-dialogue-deaf-says-top-brussels-diplomatChina doesn't want to engage in Ukraine is to avoid into any mistaken understanding by the EU foreign affairs and sending back their analysis to presume what Xi had said to them. It is best to avoid the topic of Ukraine as it can be construed with BS
Does NATO want the war to end as soon as possible? Or does NATO want an occasion to bleed Russia? Ukraine is
then another Afghanistan.
Do they really care about Ukrainian death? Or such tragedy was viewed as a function of Russian death as well as
defense industry profit? For US companies, the war is a great opportunity to sell more weapon to Taiwan.
2. The current conflict is viewed by US and EU through the lens of democracy versus autocracy. Is this really the alpha and
omega of the conflict? Don't think so. Chinese people, probably, view the conflict through the lens of ethno-cultural nationalism
like the conflict between India and Pakistan over the sovereignty of Jammu and Kashmir. Or between the Israeli and the
Palestinians. Will third party taking side really solve the problem? Not at all. At present, India, Pakistan, and Israel all have nuclear
weapons.
Bilateral border must be bilaterally determined. A process but also an opportunity for both sides to balance short term
and long term cost and benefit.
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