"(Bloomberg) -- Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine raises “awkward questions” for China because it violates Beijing’s closely-held principles of territorial integrity, sovereignty and non-interference.

Lee was asked during an event organized by the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations on Wednesday whether he thinks China has paid a political price in the region for maintaining ties with Russia.

“I think it presents them with awkward questions because on Ukraine, it violates the principles which the Chinese hold very dearly – territorial integrity, and sovereignty and non-interference,” Lee said. “And if you can do that to Ukraine, and
if the Donbas can be considered to be enclaves, and maybe republics,” he added before the moderator interrupted to ask what about Taiwan. "
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-31/singapore-says-ukraine-war-poses-awkward-questions-for-china?


Lee was VERY wrong.
Actually, Donbas and Taiwan, actually, ROC is totally incomparable.
First of all, the PRC is the successor state of the ROC. It was the wish of the Chinese people as well as UN General Asseblemy. Both the PRC and the ROC had recognized the existence of one China. Both mainland and the Taiwan islands belong to this China.
For the as a whole, it recognized the ROC as the sole representative of China at first. But later corrected itself. At present, all nations recognize One China. An absolute majority, including all world powers, recognize the PRC as the One China. A
few nations still recognize the ROC as their China.

In contrast, Ukraine was the result of former USSR's sudden collapse. Internal borders become international borders overnight. Russian and Ukrainian officials have not yet walk through the borders to reach a bilateral agreement over the where is the end
of Russia and the beginning of Ukraine. The two would continue to have border issues until they have reached a bilateral agreement.

The situation is awkward for China ONLY because China wants to maintain close relationship with both Russia and Ukraine. In addition, military operation is really not the best way to solve their border problems.

Anyway, the larger issue is between Ukraine and Russia is that, for some reason, the former did not seem to talk to Russia although the latter had massed troops along the border for months. In contrast, the PRC and the ROC have much better communication
because both understand the importance of the other side. Such mutual understanding is of utmost important because, technically speaking, the Chinese civil war is, still ongoing.

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On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 11:00:38 AM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:

"(Bloomberg) -- Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine raises “awkward questions” for China because it violates Beijing’s closely-held principles of territorial integrity, sovereignty and non-interference.

Lee was asked during an event organized by the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations on Wednesday whether he thinks China has paid a political price in the region for maintaining ties with Russia.

“I think it presents them with awkward questions because on Ukraine, it violates the principles which the Chinese hold very dearly – territorial integrity, and sovereignty and non-interference,” Lee said. “And if you can do that to Ukraine, and

if the Donbas can be considered to be enclaves, and maybe republics,” he added before the moderator interrupted to ask what about Taiwan. "

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-31/singapore-says-ukraine-war-poses-awkward-questions-for-china?

Lee was VERY wrong.
Actually, Donbas and Taiwan, actually, ROC is totally incomparable.
First of all, the PRC is the successor state of the ROC. It was the wish of the Chinese people as well as UN General Asseblemy. Both the PRC and the ROC had recognized the existence of one China. Both mainland and the Taiwan islands belong to this

China. For the as a whole, it recognized the ROC as the sole representative of China at first. But later corrected itself. At present, all nations recognize One China. An absolute majority, including all world powers, recognize the PRC as the One China.
A few nations still recognize the ROC as their China.

In contrast, Ukraine was the result of former USSR's sudden collapse. Internal borders become international borders overnight. Russian and Ukrainian officials have not yet walk through the borders to reach a bilateral agreement over the where is the

end of Russia and the beginning of Ukraine. The two would continue to have border issues until they have reached a bilateral agreement.

The situation is awkward for China ONLY because China wants to maintain close relationship with both Russia and Ukraine. In addition, military operation is really not the best way to solve their border problems.

Anyway, the larger issue is between Ukraine and Russia is that, for some reason, the former did not seem to talk to Russia although the latter had massed troops along the border for months. In contrast, the PRC and the ROC have much better

communication because both understand the importance of the other side. Such mutual understanding is of utmost important because, technically speaking, the Chinese civil war is, still ongoing.

Many will say Pravda is Russia propaganda.
But the following is expressing the same misunderstanding one can easily found in otherwise anti-Russia media concerning China's neutral position.

https://english.pravda.ru/world/150145-china_russia_usa/

"Until recently, China's stance on the issue has been neutral, although politically Xi Jinping even called for great joint action to protect security interests. This happened on December 15 during a video call with Vladimir Putin.

In practice, China abstains from voting on key UN resolutions on Crimea. Beijing refuses to recognize Crimea as Russian territory too. Similarly, China verbally rejects US and European sanctions against Russia. At the same time, however, the Chinese
administration supported Chinese companies, including major state-owned banks, to comply with those restrictions.

Today it will be difficult for Beijing to maintain this neutrality. China's behaviour in relation to the situation around Ukraine will determine Russia's behaviour in relation to the situation around Taiwan, which is far from being easy too. In fact, the
state of affairs around the situation with Taiwan is in many ways similar to that around Ukraine. The United States accuses China of its intention to invade and conquer Taiwan."

Is it really difficult to understand the concept that BILATERAL BORDER MUST BE BILATERALLY DETERMINED.
To be fair and acceptable to both sides over the long term. Third parties should remain neutral and not got themselves involved in the process of determining where one nations end and the other begins.

Again, the state of affairs around the situation with Taiwan bears little similarity to that around Ukraine. Mainland China (currently under PRC administration) and Taiwan (currently under ROC administration) were the results of a still yet to be
finished civil war. It is not the results of hastily drawn border. Both the PRC and the ROC accepted the reality of ONE CHINA. Voila, the birth of the ONE CHINA principle. This ONE CHINA was represented by the ROC government internationally shortly
after the end of WWII while the Chinese Civil War was still ongoing. Most nations, including all world powers, later changed their mind and recognized the PRC as the legitimate representative of CHINA. The PRC had earned the trust and support of the
Chinese people.

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On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:00:38 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:

"(Bloomberg) -- Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine raises “awkward questions” for China because it violates Beijing’s closely-held principles of territorial integrity, sovereignty and non-interference.

Lee was asked during an event organized by the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations on Wednesday whether he thinks China has paid a political price in the region for maintaining ties with Russia.

“I think it presents them with awkward questions because on Ukraine, it violates the principles which the Chinese hold very dearly – territorial integrity, and sovereignty and non-interference,” Lee said. “And if you can do that to Ukraine, and

if the Donbas can be considered to be enclaves, and maybe republics,” he added before the moderator interrupted to ask what about Taiwan. "

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-31/singapore-says-ukraine-war-poses-awkward-questions-for-china?

Lee was VERY wrong.
Actually, Donbas and Taiwan, actually, ROC is totally incomparable.
First of all, the PRC is the successor state of the ROC. It was the wish of the Chinese people as well as UN General Asseblemy. Both the PRC and the ROC had recognized the existence of one China. Both mainland and the Taiwan islands belong to this

China. For the as a whole, it recognized the ROC as the sole representative of China at first. But later corrected itself. At present, all nations recognize One China. An absolute majority, including all world powers, recognize the PRC as the One China.
A few nations still recognize the ROC as their China.

In contrast, Ukraine was the result of former USSR's sudden collapse. Internal borders become international borders overnight. Russian and Ukrainian officials have not yet walk through the borders to reach a bilateral agreement over the where is the

end of Russia and the beginning of Ukraine. The two would continue to have border issues until they have reached a bilateral agreement.

The situation is awkward for China ONLY because China wants to maintain close relationship with both Russia and Ukraine. In addition, military operation is really not the best way to solve their border problems.

Anyway, the larger issue is between Ukraine and Russia is that, for some reason, the former did not seem to talk to Russia although the latter had massed troops along the border for months. In contrast, the PRC and the ROC have much better

communication because both understand the importance of the other side. Such mutual understanding is of utmost important because, technically speaking, the Chinese civil war is, still ongoing.

Lee was indeed Very Wrong with zero merits. He presented in a awkward comparison that Ukraine is Taiwan. But seriously Taiwan is not Ukraine, and Ukraine is not Taiwan. Yes, Taiwan is indeed a ROC on their occupied island that is belonging to China. The
ongoing civil war is still not ended between them. And indeed it is true that this China now is the successor state of ROC and mainland China, which is One China. Hence, Lee used warping and go around ways of talks to suit and pleased the US in order to
get a passed tick on freedom of speech and freedom of comments and others in the country. Those people can be seen not so interested and not even understand the run-around with yawning confusing wasting time modes.

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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 6:10:57 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:00:38 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:

"(Bloomberg) -- Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine raises “awkward questions” for China because it violates Beijing’s closely-held principles of territorial integrity, sovereignty and non-interference.

Lee was asked during an event organized by the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations on Wednesday whether he thinks China has paid a political price in the region for maintaining ties with Russia.

“I think it presents them with awkward questions because on Ukraine, it violates the principles which the Chinese hold very dearly – territorial integrity, and sovereignty and non-interference,” Lee said. “And if you can do that to Ukraine,

and if the Donbas can be considered to be enclaves, and maybe republics,” he added before the moderator interrupted to ask what about Taiwan. "

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-31/singapore-says-ukraine-war-poses-awkward-questions-for-china?

Lee was VERY wrong.
Actually, Donbas and Taiwan, actually, ROC is totally incomparable.
First of all, the PRC is the successor state of the ROC. It was the wish of the Chinese people as well as UN General Asseblemy. Both the PRC and the ROC had recognized the existence of one China. Both mainland and the Taiwan islands belong to this

China. For the as a whole, it recognized the ROC as the sole representative of China at first. But later corrected itself. At present, all nations recognize One China. An absolute majority, including all world powers, recognize the PRC as the One China.
A few nations still recognize the ROC as their China.

In contrast, Ukraine was the result of former USSR's sudden collapse. Internal borders become international borders overnight. Russian and Ukrainian officials have not yet walk through the borders to reach a bilateral agreement over the where is the

end of Russia and the beginning of Ukraine. The two would continue to have border issues until they have reached a bilateral agreement.

The situation is awkward for China ONLY because China wants to maintain close relationship with both Russia and Ukraine. In addition, military operation is really not the best way to solve their border problems.

Anyway, the larger issue is between Ukraine and Russia is that, for some reason, the former did not seem to talk to Russia although the latter had massed troops along the border for months. In contrast, the PRC and the ROC have much better

communication because both understand the importance of the other side. Such mutual understanding is of utmost important because, technically speaking, the Chinese civil war is, still ongoing.

Lee was indeed Very Wrong with zero merits. He presented in a awkward comparison that Ukraine is Taiwan. But seriously Taiwan is not Ukraine, and Ukraine is not Taiwan. Yes, Taiwan is indeed a ROC on their occupied island that is belonging to China.

The ongoing civil war is still not ended between them. And indeed it is true that this China now is the successor state of ROC and mainland China, which is One China. Hence, Lee used warping and go around ways of talks to suit and pleased the US in order
to get a passed tick on freedom of speech and freedom of comments and others in the country. Those people can be seen not so interested and not even understand the run-around with yawning confusing wasting time modes.

Comparison between Russia taking part of Ukraine and China's intention to reunified Taiwan is everywhere in the news media.
Faulty comparison makes many to think China is violating the principle it has held dearly. China does not. But it would not and
have no reason to take side.

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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 7:47:36 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 6:10:57 AM UTC-4, borie wrote:

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 7:00:38 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:

"(Bloomberg) -- Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine raises “awkward questions” for China because it violates Beijing’s closely-held principles of territorial integrity, sovereignty and non-interference.

Lee was asked during an event organized by the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations on Wednesday whether he thinks China has paid a political price in the region for maintaining ties with Russia.

“I think it presents them with awkward questions because on Ukraine, it violates the principles which the Chinese hold very dearly – territorial integrity, and sovereignty and non-interference,” Lee said. “And if you can do that to Ukraine,

and if the Donbas can be considered to be enclaves, and maybe republics,” he added before the moderator interrupted to ask what about Taiwan. "

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-31/singapore-says-ukraine-war-poses-awkward-questions-for-china?

Lee was VERY wrong.
Actually, Donbas and Taiwan, actually, ROC is totally incomparable. First of all, the PRC is the successor state of the ROC. It was the wish of the Chinese people as well as UN General Asseblemy. Both the PRC and the ROC had recognized the existence of one China. Both mainland and the Taiwan islands belong to this

China. For the as a whole, it recognized the ROC as the sole representative of China at first. But later corrected itself. At present, all nations recognize One China. An absolute majority, including all world powers, recognize the PRC as the One China.
A few nations still recognize the ROC as their China.

In contrast, Ukraine was the result of former USSR's sudden collapse. Internal borders become international borders overnight. Russian and Ukrainian officials have not yet walk through the borders to reach a bilateral agreement over the where is

the end of Russia and the beginning of Ukraine. The two would continue to have border issues until they have reached a bilateral agreement.

The situation is awkward for China ONLY because China wants to maintain close relationship with both Russia and Ukraine. In addition, military operation is really not the best way to solve their border problems.

Anyway, the larger issue is between Ukraine and Russia is that, for some reason, the former did not seem to talk to Russia although the latter had massed troops along the border for months. In contrast, the PRC and the ROC have much better

communication because both understand the importance of the other side. Such mutual understanding is of utmost important because, technically speaking, the Chinese civil war is, still ongoing.

Lee was indeed Very Wrong with zero merits. He presented in a awkward comparison that Ukraine is Taiwan. But seriously Taiwan is not Ukraine, and Ukraine is not Taiwan. Yes, Taiwan is indeed a ROC on their occupied island that is belonging to China.

The ongoing civil war is still not ended between them. And indeed it is true that this China now is the successor state of ROC and mainland China, which is One China. Hence, Lee used warping and go around ways of talks to suit and pleased the US in order
to get a passed tick on freedom of speech and freedom of comments and others in the country. Those people can be seen not so interested and not even understand the run-around with yawning confusing wasting time modes.

Comparison between Russia taking part of Ukraine and China's intention to reunified Taiwan is everywhere in the news media.
Faulty comparison makes many to think China is violating the principle it has held dearly. China does not. But it would not and
have no reason to take side.

Yes, China's intention to reunified Taiwan is everywhere in the news media and even went back to many years back with ex-president Ma Ying Jeou. Ukraine is just a not very long ago and their problem with Russia is not relevant to Taiwan problem with
China. This shows that Lee who worked for years in his post does "want to work" against China in order to please the US. It is also clear that Lee is ball-scratcher for US and follow the vassal states of Korea and Japan by making honoring visit to the
newly elected Biden.

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