• Re: UA

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Mar 14 13:14:33 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 7:26:14 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that
    are currently under the Russian occupation. They show life of regular
    locals there. Also you can get some info from the comments. I looked
    at the videos history of every of these Youtube accounts to be sure
    they aren't somehow linked with an activism or propaganda of any kind.
    From the propaganda, activism sources, one can get very crazy claims
    in the current situation. Passions are hot.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azcILvCCh0>

    No time stamp and geographic marker. Not helpful.
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36FshvuUWiA> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEa9EeHFJL0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_YiM_cT6I> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPfzZ2l0B0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_pMaRFYd0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRuRIpW465c> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdQ_dbEzoo> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6d0FLRsRGM>

    From various accounts, it looks like things happen so that as soon as
    the Russian troops approach a city or a settlement, they invite local authorities for a talk, where they tell them they aren't going to
    interfere into the local administration, but they ask them for a
    coordination with the Russian military command.

    If there's no Kiev military units (or some militias seeking for fight)
    there, then the Russian military set some checkpoints near the
    settlement and continue to move further. The military often even don't
    enter inside such settlements. If there are some militants willing to
    fight, then the settlement becomes encircled and the command decides
    whether to fight them or to set it in a siege, while moving the major
    troops further.

    So far, it apparently fits to the Kremlin's declarations stating that
    the troops are sent after the radical nationalist militant formations,
    not after the Ukrainians/Ukraine as such.

    In large enough cities/towns the military set checkpoints within urban
    areas, and the Russian soldiers don't prevent local pro-Kiev activists
    from protesting, as long as their protest is peaceful. One can easily
    find many videos showing such protesters. Some angry folks are brave
    enough to stand next to the armed sodiers and curse/insult them boldly.
    The soldiers do not touch such folks. Kiev propaganda seeks to promote
    such videos under "Ukrainians don't give up" slogan. Although it does
    not look like a big percentage of the residents is taking part in such protest activities.

    Given that the invasion disrupted certain supply chains, the military
    brings "humanitarian aid" to the locals <https://youtu.be/pw8YsxVuTKA>
    One can find videos showing a queue of locals for the aid and as well
    there also may be activists there cursing their fellow countrymen for
    the fact that they're willing to take this aid. There are some videos
    where Russian soldiers prevent such angry activists from attacking the
    people standing in the queue.

    There were reports that the Russian military switch off Kiev's TV
    channels in the occupied areas and instead switch on Russian TV there. However, the Russian military do not seem to seek to destroy internet
    and mobile communications. That's why the people in the occupied areas
    can upload their videos etc.

    For example, description of this video <https://youtu.be/-gtOjgnJVzs>
    claims this man is the city mayor of Kherson being interviewed for the America's CNN. Kherson is quite a big city under Russian occupation,
    and it had been taken with some fights. The mayor tells in the video
    that there should be no doubt the city remains Ukrainian and his administration tries its best to maintain normal life for the people,
    even despite some destructions occurred during the sturm of the city.

    The tactics of the Kiev's military is so that they typically avoid to
    meet the Russian troops in an open field but rather take up defensive positions within important cities and towns. So, if there's a combat,
    it's often accompanied with some destructions of urban infrastructure
    and collateral casualties among civilians. That's the most dire part. "Humanitarian corridors" to evacuate civilians are organized, but not everyone can or wants to evacuate. Also, Kiev military often prevent
    the civilians from evacuation to Russian-held areas. Zelensky has
    issued death threats to anyone who would contact with the Russians.

    Presently, the most fierce fighting is going on near and within the
    city of Mariupol. It's a strategically important city of the Ukraine's south-east. Numerous Kiev troops have entrenched within the city, and
    it's known that a large part of them are hardcore neo-Nazi units. This
    is why the fights are especially fierce there. Besides Mariupol, there
    are several other places where combats are or were hot, which led to
    urban destructions and collateral casualties.

    * * *

    The prerequisites that led to this dire situation were as follows.

    Since autumn 2021, many expected that Kiev troops will likely try to
    attack Donbas soon. What did give reasons for such expectations? The
    Kiev's obvious unwillingness to implement the Minsk-2 agreement.

    In the international scene, there were repeated claims that "Minsk-2 agreement is the only way". Russian top officials said so, the Kiev
    top officials said so, and the Atlanticist top officials said so. But
    within the Kiev regime, there was a clear attitude "we aren't going to implement it", and some functionaries spoke it out openly.

    Besides, for about eight years since the 2014 coup, the Atlanticist
    powers supplied Kiev with modern weapons, their military instructors
    trained the regime's military. The Kiev troops became much stronger
    against what was in 2014/15, when the fights in Donbas were hot. So it contributed to the expectations that one day Kiev will certainly try
    to attack the Donbas militias with its much strengthened and renoved
    army.

    The Kremlin's order to concentrate Russian troops near the Ukraine's
    border was seen by many, including myself, as a warning sign intended
    to turn Kiev away from the temptation to attack Donbas. In turn, the Atlanticist mainstream media started their vocal campaign "Russia is
    going to invade Ukraine", and, under this vocalism, the Westerners significantly intensified their supply of weapons to Kiev. In addition,
    Kiev functionaries intensified rhetorics about joining NATO, and the Atlanticist official rhetorics also were promising about it. Zelensky
    ordered military registration of women and recruitment of male
    reservists. Troops near Donbas and in other areas were put on higher readiness. In February, at the Munich Conference, Zelensky said he
    now considers the Ukraine's non-nuclear status "in doubt", which was understood as a hint that the regime might try to make nukes. It's in
    no way unrealistic, given that since the Soviet time, there are many engineers in the Ukraine who were familiar with the Soviet techniques.

    The prospect to have a 40-million neighboring nation which is heavily militarized, which mainstream propaganda heavily indoctrinates,
    "zombifies" regular people with hateful anti-Russian ideologies, which government is going to produce nuclear weapons, would be of course
    dangerous and highly undesirable from the Russian perspective.

    In addition to that, the Kremlins did not get a meaningful answer to
    their "security guarantees" proposals addressed to the US and NATO,
    and, under American pressure, Germany did put Nord Stream 2 on hold indefinitely, which likely contributed to the Kremlin feelings "there
    is nothing to lose anyway".

    Did the Kremlin have a beforehand plan to invade the Ukraine? Doubts.
    Was it well-calculated? It might be that the decision was made on the
    basis of the very recent developments. I can't know for sure and it's difficult to analyze it right now. One may notice, what I've written
    above it not really an analysis but rather a set of related facts.

    * * *

    Bonus link: about the Ukraine history <https://tinyurl.com/yh33mena>

    * * *

    For China - and other Asian powers, - this situation is mostly
    beneficial. It weakens Europe and the whole West. Some European big
    factories have already been stopped because the Ukraine-related
    developments disrupted their supplies. It weakens Russia, of course.
    China emerges relatively more strong against all this mess.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 22:21:46 2022
    XPost: soc.culture.russian

    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that
    are currently under the Russian occupation. They show life of regular
    locals there. Also you can get some info from the comments. I looked
    at the videos history of every of these Youtube accounts to be sure
    they aren't somehow linked with an activism or propaganda of any kind.
    From the propaganda, activism sources, one can get very crazy claims
    in the current situation. Passions are hot.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azcILvCCh0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36FshvuUWiA> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEa9EeHFJL0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_YiM_cT6I> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPfzZ2l0B0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_pMaRFYd0> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRuRIpW465c> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdQ_dbEzoo> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6d0FLRsRGM>

    From various accounts, it looks like things happen so that as soon as
    the Russian troops approach a city or a settlement, they invite local authorities for a talk, where they tell them they aren't going to
    interfere into the local administration, but they ask them for a
    coordination with the Russian military command.

    If there's no Kiev military units (or some militias seeking for fight)
    there, then the Russian military set some checkpoints near the
    settlement and continue to move further. The military often even don't
    enter inside such settlements. If there are some militants willing to
    fight, then the settlement becomes encircled and the command decides
    whether to fight them or to set it in a siege, while moving the major
    troops further.

    So far, it apparently fits to the Kremlin's declarations stating that
    the troops are sent after the radical nationalist militant formations,
    not after the Ukrainians/Ukraine as such.

    In large enough cities/towns the military set checkpoints within urban
    areas, and the Russian soldiers don't prevent local pro-Kiev activists
    from protesting, as long as their protest is peaceful. One can easily
    find many videos showing such protesters. Some angry folks are brave
    enough to stand next to the armed sodiers and curse/insult them boldly.
    The soldiers do not touch such folks. Kiev propaganda seeks to promote
    such videos under "Ukrainians don't give up" slogan. Although it does
    not look like a big percentage of the residents is taking part in such
    protest activities.

    Given that the invasion disrupted certain supply chains, the military
    brings "humanitarian aid" to the locals <https://youtu.be/pw8YsxVuTKA>
    One can find videos showing a queue of locals for the aid and as well
    there also may be activists there cursing their fellow countrymen for
    the fact that they're willing to take this aid. There are some videos
    where Russian soldiers prevent such angry activists from attacking the
    people standing in the queue.

    There were reports that the Russian military switch off Kiev's TV
    channels in the occupied areas and instead switch on Russian TV there.
    However, the Russian military do not seem to seek to destroy internet
    and mobile communications. That's why the people in the occupied areas
    can upload their videos etc.

    For example, description of this video <https://youtu.be/-gtOjgnJVzs>
    claims this man is the city mayor of Kherson being interviewed for the America's CNN. Kherson is quite a big city under Russian occupation,
    and it had been taken with some fights. The mayor tells in the video
    that there should be no doubt the city remains Ukrainian and his
    administration tries its best to maintain normal life for the people,
    even despite some destructions occurred during the sturm of the city.

    The tactics of the Kiev's military is so that they typically avoid to
    meet the Russian troops in an open field but rather take up defensive
    positions within important cities and towns. So, if there's a combat,
    it's often accompanied with some destructions of urban infrastructure
    and collateral casualties among civilians. That's the most dire part. "Humanitarian corridors" to evacuate civilians are organized, but not
    everyone can or wants to evacuate. Also, Kiev military often prevent
    the civilians from evacuation to Russian-held areas. Zelensky has
    issued death threats to anyone who would contact with the Russians.

    Presently, the most fierce fighting is going on near and within the
    city of Mariupol. It's a strategically important city of the Ukraine's south-east. Numerous Kiev troops have entrenched within the city, and
    it's known that a large part of them are hardcore neo-Nazi units. This
    is why the fights are especially fierce there. Besides Mariupol, there
    are several other places where combats are or were hot, which led to
    urban destructions and collateral casualties.

    * * *

    The prerequisites that led to this dire situation were as follows.

    Since autumn 2021, many expected that Kiev troops will likely try to
    attack Donbas soon. What did give reasons for such expectations? The
    Kiev's obvious unwillingness to implement the Minsk-2 agreement.

    In the international scene, there were repeated claims that "Minsk-2
    agreement is the only way". Russian top officials said so, the Kiev
    top officials said so, and the Atlanticist top officials said so. But
    within the Kiev regime, there was a clear attitude "we aren't going to implement it", and some functionaries spoke it out openly.

    Besides, for about eight years since the 2014 coup, the Atlanticist
    powers supplied Kiev with modern weapons, their military instructors
    trained the regime's military. The Kiev troops became much stronger
    against what was in 2014/15, when the fights in Donbas were hot. So it contributed to the expectations that one day Kiev will certainly try
    to attack the Donbas militias with its much strengthened and renoved
    army.

    The Kremlin's order to concentrate Russian troops near the Ukraine's
    border was seen by many, including myself, as a warning sign intended
    to turn Kiev away from the temptation to attack Donbas. In turn, the Atlanticist mainstream media started their vocal campaign "Russia is
    going to invade Ukraine", and, under this vocalism, the Westerners significantly intensified their supply of weapons to Kiev. In addition,
    Kiev functionaries intensified rhetorics about joining NATO, and the Atlanticist official rhetorics also were promising about it. Zelensky
    ordered military registration of women and recruitment of male
    reservists. Troops near Donbas and in other areas were put on higher
    readiness. In February, at the Munich Conference, Zelensky said he
    now considers the Ukraine's non-nuclear status "in doubt", which was
    understood as a hint that the regime might try to make nukes. It's in
    no way unrealistic, given that since the Soviet time, there are many
    engineers in the Ukraine who were familiar with the Soviet techniques.

    The prospect to have a 40-million neighboring nation which is heavily militarized, which mainstream propaganda heavily indoctrinates,
    "zombifies" regular people with hateful anti-Russian ideologies, which government is going to produce nuclear weapons, would be of course
    dangerous and highly undesirable from the Russian perspective.

    In addition to that, the Kremlins did not get a meaningful answer to
    their "security guarantees" proposals addressed to the US and NATO,
    and, under American pressure, Germany did put Nord Stream 2 on hold indefinitely, which likely contributed to the Kremlin feelings "there
    is nothing to lose anyway".

    Did the Kremlin have a beforehand plan to invade the Ukraine? Doubts.
    Was it well-calculated? It might be that the decision was made on the
    basis of the very recent developments. I can't know for sure and it's
    difficult to analyze it right now. One may notice, what I've written
    above it not really an analysis but rather a set of related facts.

    * * *

    Bonus link: about the Ukraine history <https://tinyurl.com/yh33mena>

    * * *

    For China - and other Asian powers, - this situation is mostly
    beneficial. It weakens Europe and the whole West. Some European big
    factories have already been stopped because the Ukraine-related
    developments disrupted their supplies. It weakens Russia, of course.
    China emerges relatively more strong against all this mess.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 23:36:00 2022
    ltlee1, <news:b6cc6282-6414-4743-9f84-2e6165bef724n@googlegroups.com>
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 7:26:14 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that
    are currently under the Russian occupation. They show life of regular
    locals there. Also you can get some info from the comments. I looked
    at the videos history of every of these Youtube accounts to be sure
    they aren't somehow linked with an activism or propaganda of any kind.
    From the propaganda, activism sources, one can get very crazy claims
    in the current situation. Passions are hot.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azcILvCCh0>

    No time stamp and geographic marker. Not helpful.

    Date is there, and location is clear from both the content and context.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36FshvuUWiA>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEa9EeHFJL0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_YiM_cT6I>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPfzZ2l0B0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_pMaRFYd0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRuRIpW465c>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdQ_dbEzoo>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6d0FLRsRGM>

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Mar 14 16:26:43 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 8:36:41 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    ltlee1, <news:b6cc6282-6414-4743...@googlegroups.com>
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 7:26:14 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that
    are currently under the Russian occupation. They show life of regular
    locals there. Also you can get some info from the comments. I looked
    at the videos history of every of these Youtube accounts to be sure
    they aren't somehow linked with an activism or propaganda of any kind.
    From the propaganda, activism sources, one can get very crazy claims
    in the current situation. Passions are hot.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azcILvCCh0>

    No time stamp and geographic marker. Not helpful.
    Date is there, and location is clear from both the content and context.

    Did someone read or mention a current edition report verbatim?
    Cannot tell whether the supposedly Ukrainian city is one with Russian majority or one with Ukrainian majority.
    Anyway, video could be readily faked during this era of post-truth.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36FshvuUWiA>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEa9EeHFJL0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_YiM_cT6I>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPfzZ2l0B0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_pMaRFYd0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRuRIpW465c>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdQ_dbEzoo>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6d0FLRsRGM>

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 15 03:08:36 2022
    ltlee1, <news:cf3fc1d8-3600-4f51-bc0e-a80c44a0b80dn@googlegroups.com>
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 8:36:41 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that
    are currently under the Russian occupation. They show life of regular
    locals there. Also you can get some info from the comments. I looked
    at the videos history of every of these Youtube accounts to be sure
    they aren't somehow linked with an activism or propaganda of any kind. >>>> From the propaganda, activism sources, one can get very crazy claims
    in the current situation. Passions are hot.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azcILvCCh0>

    No time stamp and geographic marker. Not helpful.

    Date is there, and location is clear from both the content and context.

    Did someone read or mention a current edition report verbatim?
    Cannot tell whether the supposedly Ukrainian city is one with Russian majority or one with Ukrainian majority.
    Anyway, video could be readily faked during this era of post-truth.

    One might say so with regard to a detached video without any context.
    For a Youtube account, one can trace what kind of videos the author issued before. One can read the comments section (one can use machine translation). One can locate the place on the map and learn more about it. It requires
    some curiosity and some effort, of course.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36FshvuUWiA>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEa9EeHFJL0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_YiM_cT6I>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPfzZ2l0B0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_pMaRFYd0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRuRIpW465c>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdQ_dbEzoo>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6d0FLRsRGM>

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Tue Mar 15 04:15:49 2022
    On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 12:11:13 AM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    ltlee1, <news:cf3fc1d8-3600-4f51...@googlegroups.com>
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 8:36:41 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that >>>> are currently under the Russian occupation. They show life of regular >>>> locals there. Also you can get some info from the comments. I looked >>>> at the videos history of every of these Youtube accounts to be sure
    they aren't somehow linked with an activism or propaganda of any kind. >>>> From the propaganda, activism sources, one can get very crazy claims >>>> in the current situation. Passions are hot.

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0azcILvCCh0>

    No time stamp and geographic marker. Not helpful.

    Date is there, and location is clear from both the content and context.

    Did someone read or mention a current edition report verbatim?
    Cannot tell whether the supposedly Ukrainian city is one with Russian majority or one with Ukrainian majority.
    Anyway, video could be readily faked during this era of post-truth.
    One might say so with regard to a detached video without any context.
    For a Youtube account, one can trace what kind of videos the author issued before. One can read the comments section (one can use machine translation). One can locate the place on the map and learn more about it. It requires
    some curiosity and some effort, of course.

    1. Cannot tell whether the person who posts the video today is the same person who posted video clips yesterday.
    2. Assuming the same poster, past neutrality is no guarantee of future neutrality.


    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36FshvuUWiA>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEa9EeHFJL0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_YiM_cT6I>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPfzZ2l0B0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_pMaRFYd0>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRuRIpW465c>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvdQ_dbEzoo>
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6d0FLRsRGM>

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Tue Mar 15 18:36:45 2022
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukraine, uk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.war

    "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:t0o4sj$m5s$1@os.motzarella.org...

    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that are currently under the Russian occupation.

    Here are a few more:

    Another one bites the dust:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-62Mzb7M0o

    Ah, fireworks!:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFwIiSk8hqg

    So your tanks are NLAW-proof, eh?:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFUwa10gXlo

    I hear partisans have developed their own fuel-air explosive. All they need
    is:

    1) Acetylene

    2) Oxygen

    3) Plastic trash bags

    I can imagine what will happen when hungry Russkies break into a house or trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZywwUt8RH0&t=231s

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 20:05:59 2022
    XPost: soc.culture.russian

    The prerequisites that led to this dire situation were as follows.

    About radical ideologies in the Ukraine <https://bit.ly/3q5yHav>

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Fri Mar 18 16:00:02 2022
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, uk.politics.misc, alt.history
    XPost: soc.culture.ukraine

    "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:t0vq1o$qkn$1@os.motzarella.org...

    About radical ideologies in the Ukraine <https://bit.ly/3q5yHav>

    Pot-kettle-black

    It seems Putin wants to revive the Holy Roman Empire... -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Putin's motive? The radical ideology of a holy Russian nation

    Historians Beatrice de Graaf and Niels Drost interpret Putin's references to the past
    3 March 2022

    What exactly drives Putin to invade Ukraine and what else can we expect from him in this war? For many Europeans, Putin's motives are difficult to grasp:
    it is often said that what he is doing is "not rational". Historian and radicalization expert Prof Beatrice de Graaf emphasizes that Putin's actions
    do have logic within his own world view: "Putin is fighting for a holy
    Russian nation and is acting consistently and intrinsically logically in
    this." Under her guidance, alumnus Niels Drost wrote a master's thesis on Putin's strategic use of history and his increasingly radical ideology of a Greater Russian Empire. Drost has been working as a junior researcher at the Clingendael Institute since 15 February, where he published his findings.

    Many analyses have recently pointed to Putin's propagandistic references to
    the Second World War and the Soviet era. De Graaf and Drost see a crucial source for his radical ideology even further back in the past: in the
    Russian empire of the nineteenth century, in which all Slavic peoples were incorporated and in which there was no separation between church and state. Putin's use of the double eagle symbol also refers to this: it traditionally symbolized how church and world converged in one body, in one ruler, De
    Graaf explained in a podcast on Dutch radio (EO, 26 February). "Putin's ideological goal is to reunite the Slavic peoples into the holy Russian
    nation, of which he sees himself as the embodiment and Kyiv as the cradle."

    Drost's thesis research shows that Putin has always used references to
    Russian history in his rhetoric, but that his ideas have become increasingly radicalized. Drost analyzed over 500 speeches by Putin from the entire
    period of his presidency (2000-2008 and 2012-present). This shows that Putin initially used history in a positive way to seek rapprochement with Europe
    and to emphasize shared values. He referred, for example, to Tsar Peter the Great (1672-1725), who believed in the Enlightenment and who opened the
    windows to Europe for the Russians. During his first two terms as president, Putin also emphasized the connection between the Russian and Ukrainian
    people based on a shared religious (Orthodox-Christian) history.

    Since 2012, Putin has increasingly used references to the Russian empire - accurate or not - to legitimize his own power, and his pro-European stance eroded.

    Radicalization

    But when Putin came back to power in 2012, and especially from the
    annexation of Crimea in 2014, he became increasingly insistent that
    Ukrainians and Russians are one people and that Crimea has always belonged
    to Russia (in fact, the area was not annexed by Russia for the first time
    until 1783). Putin increasingly used - accurate or not - references to the former Russian empire to legitimize his own power, and his pro-European
    stance became less and less. He also started quoting other czars, such as
    the absolutist Catherine the Great (1729-1796) who drastically expanded the Russian empire by occupying Crimea and the Caucasus, and Alexander II (1818-1881) who annexed Poland and Ukraine and implemented 'Russification'
    by suppressing minority languages, for example.

    Rational irrationality

    De Graaf describes Putin's ideology of a sacred Russian nation as an example
    of 'rational irrationality', a term she borrows from the American economist Bryan Caplan. "What Putin does is for him a logical, rational consequence of
    a worldview that is rather mythical, and based on beliefs rather than
    facts," De Graaf told RTL News.

    https://www.uu.nl/en/news/putins-motive-the-radical-ideology-of-a-holy-russian-nation

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 07:24:08 2022
    XPost: soc.culture.russian

    The videos below are from the Ukraine's cities/towns/settlements that
    are currently under the Russian occupation. They show life of regular
    locals there. Also you can get some info from the comments.

    More recent amateur local videos

    <https://youtu.be/CnRl3A3dm6s>
    <https://youtu.be/qxckPobDXqA>
    <https://youtu.be/-UJ2krkveRQ>
    <https://youtu.be/2fuMNu5uKUY>
    <https://youtu.be/f1Dj2NyyOZs>
    <https://youtu.be/sKtYYk0kJsk>
    <https://youtu.be/y4RahB4EVW8>
    <https://youtu.be/jEIoCoKPdSI>
    <https://youtu.be/IiT07Rsyv7k>

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