• Is it possible to manufacture things things in America instead of in Ch

    From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 7 10:07:07 2022
    Raphael Hukai
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    Is it possible to manufacture things things in America instead of in China, without price increases for goods?
    I think it is possible, especially with the AI and robotic revolution, the manufacture landscape will change. In fact, US does have advantage in terms of energy and land price. However, the issue is never been US vs. China, it is about US ourselves. The
    industrial foundation of today’s USA is from Henry Ford model T time, where middle class workers can work hard and afford a product they made! It created a great and almost unique (compare with traditional European industrial power) middle class base
    society.

    However, the world has changed, and US industrial structure failed to transform accordingly. Elsewhere in the world, regardless it is China, Thailand, India, Turkey or Kenya (just list few countries I worked/lived in), when middle class start forming and
    gain purchasing power, they want basically two categories of goods: 1. luxuries; 2. decent (enough) and affordables. For the later, they all will try to make domestically if possible. USA doesn’t produce either! That’s why when China wants (sincerely)
    to buy US products, there is not that much (besides airplanes, medical equipment and computers) they can take. Our country is not good at producing goods for “mass market of middle class of other countries”. Europe on the other hands, has plenty
    luxury products, from car, fashion, cosmetics, watch, you name it. Politicians and media are so much into China blame game, and failed to address the structural problem of our industry. You can blame China as hard as you want, but in the end, if you don
    t have things to sell to China, you will face the same problem in India, Thailand, Turkey, Kenya, and so on. China is selling the low ends, Europe take care of the high end, and US can only make bloody money from weapons, and making wars to create the
    market for it.

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  • From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to boro on Tue Feb 15 15:38:40 2022
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 8:16:03 AM UTC-8, boro wrote:
    On 8/2/2022 2:07 am, Rusty Wyse wrote:
    Raphael Hukai
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    Living, Learning and Working GloballyUpdated Jan 19
    Is it possible to manufacture things things in America instead of in China, without price increases for goods?
    I think it is possible, especially with the AI and robotic revolution, the manufacture landscape will change. In fact, US does have advantage in terms of energy and land price. However, the issue is never been US vs. China, it is about US ourselves.
    The industrial foundation of today’s USA is from Henry Ford model T time, where middle class workers can work hard and afford a product they made! It created a great and almost unique (compare with traditional European industrial power) middle class
    base society.

    However, the world has changed, and US industrial structure failed to transform accordingly. Elsewhere in the world, regardless it is China, Thailand, India, Turkey or Kenya (just list few countries I worked/lived in), when middle class start forming
    and gain purchasing power, they want basically two categories of goods: 1. luxuries; 2. decent (enough) and affordables. For the later, they all will try to make domestically if possible. USA doesn’t produce either! That’s why when China wants (
    sincerely) to buy US products, there is not that much (besides airplanes, medical equipment and computers) they can take. Our country is not good at producing goods for “mass market of middle class of other countries”. Europe on the other hands, has
    plenty luxury products, from car, fashion, cosmetics, watch, you name it. Politicians and media are so much into China blame game, and failed to address the structural problem of our industry. You can blame China as hard as you want, but in the end, if
    you don’t have things to sell to China, you will face the same problem in India, Thailand, Turkey, Kenya, and so on. China is selling the low ends, Europe take care of the high end, and US can only make bloody money from weapons, and making wars to
    create the market for it.
    Americans cannot produce anymore because they spent their tax money on
    how to make guns and weapons of destruction.

    Now they are mostly are poor and broke, they spent their time in
    sexting, porn, screwing, drinking, stealing, robbing, burglary, murder,
    and scamming of their self and self-interests.
    Let face it, there is no point in prusuing it at all.


    They only work when they have work. If not, they have jobless benefits. Their lowest labor rate is now at $25 per hour and the executives are in
    the range of hundred of thousands per year.

    But their product quality is expensive much due to short limited
    production volumes, and hence price is at sky high at the top of the mountain.

    Just look at their car industry, which is their main industry, their production quality of manufacturer is bad. Consumers bought them were disappointed.This reflects American attitudes. Seriously, US is over.

    Yeah!!! Our main industry is war!!!!
    We are proud of our aircraft carriers, fighter planes, missiles,...

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  • From Satish Kumar@21:1/5 to rst88...@gmail.com on Wed Feb 16 11:34:31 2022
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-8, rst88...@gmail.com wrote:
    Yeah!!! Our main industry is war!!!!
    We are proud of our aircraft carriers, fighter planes, missiles,...


    Yale Guen Mar, you came to the USA as a 11 year old in 1949. That was a long time ago. How come you decided to grow old in the USA without ever doing any meaningful work?

    Yale Guen Mar (aka Resty Wyse). You need time for contemplation. Mull over why you could never hold on to a job for long.

    Yale Guen Mar, remember how you got fired from the GeneGee Restaurants, first in China Lake and then in Glendale?

    Here is a partial list of employers who had to fire you for your lack of honsty and work ethics:

    * Tony Chee Mar of Star Cafe in Safford, AZ fired you.

    * Tony Goodman of the Volkswagen dealership in Safford, AZ fired you.

    * Junction City Cafe of Kansas fired you when Uncle Ben caught you wasting
    time engaged in unholy acts inside a piggery

    Your uncle (Tony Chee Mar's twin brother Ben Shee Mar) hired you as a janitor. Uncle Ben was willing to send you to college at Kansas State University. But you let him down so badly that he had to fire you.

    * Double Happiness Restaurant of Arizona fired you.

    This was a job that a class friend from school (who went to University of Arizona) had managed to get for you. You let him down badly when you got fired.

    * Kim Yee of Peacock Restaurant in Chandler, Arizona fired you.

    Tony Chee Mar had requested Ms. Yee to give you a job as a janitor. You botched up the job as usual and got fired. Tony Chee Mar felt shamed by your failure.

    * Mesa Rice Bowl of Arizona fired you

    The Mar clan was nice enough to get you a job at this restaurant when no other restaurant would. As usual, you let down the Mars and got fired unceremoniously.

    * The US Army gave you a dishonorable discharge.

    You just couldn't get over your perversions. The only reason that you didn't suffer a loss of rank with your dishonorable discharge was because as a private you were already at the lowest rung. In sharp contrast, cousin Homer served in Vietnam and retired as a colonel in the US Army.

    * Dynalectron's cafeteria in California fired you.

    This was just another lost opportunity for you when you got fired
    the very first week of joining.

    * Gene-Gee Restaurant of California fired you when you got caught purloining restaurant supplies.

    Yale Guen Mar, you most certainly didn't get fired from everyone of your menial jobs because you were a star performer.

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