• Are we seeing the gradual fall of the USA as a superpower?

    From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 8 09:55:52 2022
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    Are we seeing the gradual fall of the USA as a superpower?
    The United States is still by far the world's leading power.


    The United States is the largest economy in the world, and the country still has the largest army in the world.

    There is no doubt about that. The United States continues to grow, but the real problem is that a country behind China is growing much faster than the United States.

    We are not seeing the gradual fall of the United States, but rather the rapid emergence of China as a global superpower.

    Given the current trajectories of the two countries, all indications are that China will overtake the United States within 10 to 20 years.

    This seems inevitable. The United States cannot accept this. For this reason, a new Cold War will break out between the United States and China in the coming decade.

    Both countries want the same thing, and there is only one place at the top.

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    Big C
    · October 7, 2020
    In the modern world, hardpower in the form of large armies is a hinderance to actual power. The days are gone where large nations go to war against eachother.

    Even when a larger power like USA goes to war with smaller countries like Afghanistan and Iraq there is nothing to gain from it, only losses.

    USA has shoveled immense amount of money into two wars against tiny defenseless nations and what did they gain?

    Nothing. They only lost money. And money is the real power.

    The next superpowers will be whoever has the most money, not the biggest armies.

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    Shi Liu
    · October 20, 2020
    American government never seen those war “useless” and certainly they don’t think the money they spend are “wasted”.

    The money they spend on the war and all military related goods are not just vanished, the money will be transferred from government into private syndicates, the money actually flowed much soon than regular time, and due to the nature of US dollars, when
    US government lack of fund, they just print more and the whole world paying the bills for them, so more war they start, more money American company make, more pressure on world economy, it is a gain for the true boss in America, it is a lost to the rest.

    The real problem is, those people are the true controller of the government, they will never stop all wars when there is money to make.

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    Big C
    · October 20, 2020
    I agree that the military industrial complex and the military lobby in USA has gained too much power. It wants a state of constant war because that means that funds will be shuttled into this sector. The military industrial complex in USA is just growing
    and growing at the expense of other sectors such as education, infrastructure and so on.

    Alot of civilians in afghanistan has wondered if the US army actually did not want to win the war there, or even try, they think that they just wanted to stay at war there for as long as possible without winning it.

    Because if the US army is “losing” it can ask the government for more and more money.

    the same thing in Iraq, the US army just used an endless pit of money on stupid things. And where did the money go?

    Allegations of misappropriations related to the Iraq War - Wikipedia

    Much of $60B from U.S. to rebuild Iraq wasted, special auditor's final report to Congress shows

    And for what? USA literally gained nothing from being in Iraq and Afghanistan. No large oil or mineral contracts, no increased geopolitical power no nothing.

    The largest oil and mineral contracts in Iraq went to Russia and China, and for political influence, Iran is now the country whom has most political influence over Iraq.

    So why are pentagon pumping more and more money into wars that they dont win or dont gain anything from? It leaves me wondering, because the top dogs in pentagon they are not stupid people, they are highly intelligent so I am wondering what their end
    game is.

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    Shi Liu
    · October 21, 2020
    It seems like US military wants to keep a certain level of warfare, most regional warfare, so it allows pentagon have more budget every year and saved some training money since the training never stop even there is no war at all.

    Also give them plenty opportunity to test every kind of weapons….

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    Emmanuel Macharia
    · February 9, 2021
    Naah, War means money. People think the United States is losing money in wars but its quite the contrary, US makes money from those wars. Vast amounts of hard liquid cash. Peace means the United States is not getting the money and it cannot tolerate that,
    that’s why no one in the west even talks about peace with those countries that are brawling with the US.

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    Michael Salvador
    · January 15, 2021
    Correct view Shi, the US is the biggest industrial/military economy in the world. Two world wars mobilisation showed that. From automobiles to bombers in 2 months. From cars to respirators in 2 weeks.

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    John Mack
    · October 10, 2020
    Well said. The only unfortunate thing is that you need military might to protect the money you have, hence the military buildup.

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    Big C
    · October 11, 2020
    All you need is a couple of atomic bombs and noone is going to harrass you. Noone is going to risk invading a country that can blast your country off the map with a bunch of bombs, so technically an army is not required to defend your homeland

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    John Mack
    Unless a country decides it can blast any nuclear threat out of the sky before it reaches them…..worse yet, a country may believe in acceptable loss. Then we are all in trouble.
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    Jerry Gao
    · October 20, 2020
    True. But a force that's sufficient to defend your homeland is enough. The US millitary can fight against the entire world lol.

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    Big C
    The entire population is armed to the teeth and not afraid to use those guns aswell. Not to mention the impossibility to occupy USA for an invading

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