• Re: Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others rais

    From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to A. Filip on Fri Nov 12 10:52:48 2021
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

    The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!


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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to Rusty Wyse on Fri Nov 12 18:36:57 2021
    Rusty Wyse <rst888wxyz@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp

    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to Rusty Wyse on Fri Nov 12 19:09:09 2021
    Rusty Wyse <rst888wxyz@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

    The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!

    It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)

    My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

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  • From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to A. Filip on Sat Nov 13 01:02:29 2021
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 11:09:11 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

    The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
    It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)

    My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

    Yeah, much better than actual war...

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to A. Filip on Sat Nov 13 04:43:42 2021
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

    The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
    It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)

    My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

    Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
    goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
    Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously? Would it seek further
    detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
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  • From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 13 08:25:12 2021
    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 4:43:44 AM UTC-8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

    The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
    It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)

    My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.
    Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
    goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
    Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously?

    The U.S. can't even "deal" with Vietnam and/or Afghanistan!!!!
    How could the U.S. "deal" with both Russia and/or China????

    Would it seek further
    detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
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  • From vonnie@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 14 01:19:49 2021
    As more US special forces get older, the more they will die and ended up in Arlington graveyard again.

    Millions more displaced military people fighting with them will emigrate to
    US for their safe haven.

    Each time, US engaged a war on others, they have forgotten there are long
    term costs towards to the after injured and maimed.

    The president of the US and the Pentagon seem not to think of the long term consequential costs to the people in keeping them alive.






    "Rusty Wyse" wrote in message news:d1c9860d-9acf-4035-bb8c-1db6251f0a7cn@googlegroups.com...

    On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 4:43:44 AM UTC-8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others
    raise concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-not-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

    The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
    It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)

    My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.
    Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
    goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
    Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously?

    The U.S. can't even "deal" with Vietnam and/or Afghanistan!!!!
    How could the U.S. "deal" with both Russia and/or China????

    Would it seek further
    detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
    --
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  • From yani@21:1/5 to A. Filip on Sun Nov 14 10:31:16 2021
    The answer is "Yes", they can deal with two countries simultaneously, in theory, at least. NATO is there to move the fight with them.

    But, in practice they may hard on them to deploy their thinkers and
    strategists to direct a fight in two places at once.

    The US can influence the 28 E to support them to fight Russia, but for
    China, US is trying to have their allies, newly setup AUSUK, to fight China.

    US is trying to get South Korea and Japan to join them, but they both
    worried they will get into being "swallowed' for attacking China.

    But US could could use their bases there to fight China. In theory, it
    could, but if they do, they will have to suffer, too.

    However, US cannot use their bases for attack on other countries as it was
    for defence of their own country, instead,

    Meanwhile, US has agreement to use one of the 10 members in the South east
    Asia countries to transit their base to transit their AUSUK gang movement.

    For sure, the white man AUSUK forces will not able to fight as people in
    Asia hated US for carrying war on countries year after year since that past
    40 years, but not for China, who provided much of the help to them.



    "ltlee1" wrote in message news:5dea3f07-c9a9-4c63-b422-6ee3ac7f40a4n@googlegroups.com...

    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 7:09:11 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:37:00 AM UTC-8, A. Filip wrote:
    Rusty Wyse <rst88...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Russia says it's not planning an invasion as the US and others raise
    concerns about troop buildup near Ukraine

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-it-s-n
    leastot-planning-an-invasion-as-the-us-and-others-raise-concerns-about-troop-buildup-near-ukraine/ar-AAQDe5G?ocid=msedgntp
    Would Russia openly declare (eventual) invasion plans? :-)

    The U.S. did when we invaded Iraq!!!!
    It was a mistake [in more than one meaning] ;-)

    My version is "Putin keeps *the option* open" based on troop buildup.

    Depending of US and Nato reaction, invasion may not be necessary if the
    goal is to intimidate Ukraine. Putin is giving the US under Biden a test.
    Can it deal with Russia and China simultaneously? Would it seek further
    detente with Russia and do the minimum with Russian buildup?
    --
    A. Filip : Big Tech Brother is watching you.
    | Mankind is poised midway between the gods and the beasts.
    | (Plotinus)

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