• Can the US Navy fight and win a war?

    From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 25 10:43:31 2021
    Can the US Navy fight and win a war?

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  • From olade@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 26 10:18:27 2021
    A few hypersonic will put an end to US carriers at seas. An encirclement on them will put them into the pockets after stalled. It will end US navy completely.

    US thinking of defending some countries is a dream. US navy admirals do not want to die with their men at seas for fighting for nobody before finishing their career term.



    "Rusty Wyse" wrote in message news:a0a04fdd-ad4b-4dd0-b382-70145283293en@googlegroups.com...

    Can the US Navy fight and win a war?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/can-the-us-navy-fight-and-win-a-war/ar-AAPVHgC?ocid=msedgn

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  • From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to olade on Tue Oct 26 10:00:00 2021
    On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 7:18:29 PM UTC-7, olade wrote:
    A few hypersonic will put an end to US carriers at seas. An encirclement on them will put them into the pockets after stalled. It will end US navy completely.

    US thinking of defending some countries is a dream. US navy admirals do not want to die with their men at seas for fighting for nobody before finishing their career term.

    Today is NOT the 1940s... The 8,000 miles of ocean is a huge obstacle for the U.S. to fight a war in the Asia area. Plus, China's hypersonic weapons can reach every corner of the world... Plus, we have seen the results of the Vietnam War, the
    Afghanistan War,... There is no way the U.S. can win a war in Asia against China...




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    Can the US Navy fight and win a war?

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  • From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to Byker on Tue Oct 26 10:43:15 2021
    On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 10:32:14 AM UTC-7, Byker wrote:
    "olade" wrote in message news:sl7ohi$6kt$1...@dont-email.me...

    A few hypersonic will put an end to US carriers at seas.
    A few responding ICBMs will put an end to China as an entity...

    Hummmm!!! ICBMs....
    And we have to depend on Russia for rocket engines...
    even our Space Station...
    We need Russia to supply our space station...
    We sold billions of dollars of defensive weapons to Saudi Arabia...
    It can't even prevent an attack from Iran's missile attack...

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  • From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Wed Oct 27 11:00:03 2021
    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 2:41:04 AM UTC-7, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/26/2021 12:32 PM, Byker wrote:
    "olade" wrote in message news:sl7ohi$6kt$1...@dont-email.me...

    A few hypersonic will put an end to US carriers at seas.

    A few responding ICBMs will put an end to China as an entity...
    If Americans stopped purchasing Chinese goods,

    Today's world has more than just one country. The U.S. does not dominate anywhere today. Face the fact!!!

    China could not afford to
    manufacture Hyper-sonic missiles

    China had hypersonic weapons for over 40 years...

    and would be very busy trying to
    feed well over a Billion out of work Chinese citizens.

    China's BRI connects the world to China...
    As the Romans used to say...
    "All roads lead to China..."

    At which point
    a devastating nuclear attack on China would actually be doing the ruling order there a favor.

    The U.S. has nukes...
    Russia has nukes...
    China has nukes...
    Pakistan has nukes...
    Even little Israel has nukes...
    You just toast mankind...
    No one can survive nuke-war...

    Isn't it about time to bring back heavy industry to
    America?

    We have them... Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed-Martin, General Dynamic,...
    And a lot more...

    That is what won WWII.

    And that was how many years ago???
    A lot has changed, hasn't it. China connected their whole country with bullet trains within 10 years and their bullet trains are full of riders. We just had a train wreck in Idaho which killed 3 people...
    In 10 years, we can't even get our bullet train-track out of the city limit of Fresno, California. China's freeways are full of cars traveling in every direction. We got bumper-to-bumper traffic jams...
    ... A lot has changed...


    I cannot fathom why the Chinese would
    want a war with anyone at this time.

    After the Vietnam War, after the Afghanistan War,...
    Do we need another war anywhere around the world???
    Can we even afford to fight a war against China? We can't even beat third-rate countries like Vietnam and Afghanistan... How can we defeat China with their modern weapons??? plus 4 times our population??? China even out-produce us...


    They are not short of
    Liebensraum(sp) and being a Capitalist Communist Nation have a better
    living standard then they have had for centuries.

    And Chinese people are traveling all over the world...
    And they all return to China!!! Isn't that amazing for a communist country!!!! Yeah!!! A communist country with many many billionaires!!!! like Jack Ma

    Forbes list of Chinese billionaires (converted into USD) and is based on an annual assessment of wealth and assets compiled and published by Forbes magazine in 2021.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_by_net_worth
    2021 Chinese billionaires top 30 list
    Rank Name Net worth (USD) Citizenship Sources of wealth
    1 Zhong Shanshan 68.9 billion China beverages, pharmaceuticals Nongfu Spring/Beijing Wantai Biological Pharmacy

    2 Ma Huateng 65.8 billion China internet media
    Tencent Holdings

    3 Colin Huang 55.3 billion China e-commerce
    pinduoduo

    4 Jack Ma 48.4 billion China e-commerce
    Alibaba Group

    5 Wang Wei 39.0 billion China package delivery
    SF Express

    6 He Xiangjian 37.7 billion China home appliances
    Midea Group Co. Ltd

    7 Zhang Yiming 35.6 billion China internet media
    ByteDance

    8 Qin Yinglin 33.5 billion China pig breeding
    China's Muyuan Foodstuff

    9 William Ding 33.0 billion China online games
    Netease

    10 Yang Huiyan 29.6 billion China real estate
    Country Garden Holdings

    11 Robin Zeng 28.4 billion China batteries
    Contemporary Amperex Technology (CATL)

    12 Xu Jiayin 27.7 billion China real estate
    Evergrand Group

    13 Pang Kang 26.4 billion China agribusiness
    Haitian Flavoring & Food

    14 Wang Xing 26.1 billion China e-commerce
    Meituan

    15 Jiang Rensheng 24.4 billion China vaccines
    Zhifei

    16 Zhang Zhidong 23.4 billion China internet media
    Tencent Holdings

    17 Lei Jun 23.0 billion China internet company
    Xiaomi

    18 Liu Qiangdong 22.4 billion China e-commerce
    JD.com

    19 Li Xiting 21.5 billion Singapore[4] medical devices
    Mindray

    20 Li Shufu 19.7 billion China automobiles
    Geely Automobile Holdings

    20 Zhong Huijuan 19.7 billion China pharmaceuticals
    22 Xu Hang 19.5 billion China medical devices
    23 Sun Piaoyang 18.9 billion China pharmaceuticals
    24 Wu Yajun 18.3 billion China real estate
    25 Fan Hongwei 18.2 billion China petrochemicals
    26 Chen Bang 17.9 billion China hospitals
    27 Su Hua 17.8 billion China video streaming
    28 Wang Chuanfu 16.3 billion China batteries, automobiles
    29 Chen Zhiping 15.9 billion China e-cigarettes
    30 Wei Jianjun 15.9 billion China automobiles

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  • From Rusty Wyse@21:1/5 to Byker on Thu Oct 28 09:40:20 2021
    On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 2:14:41 PM UTC-7, Byker wrote:
    "PaxPerPoten" wrote in message news:slb6rd$a8h$1...@dont-email.me...

    I cannot fathom why the Chinese would want a war with anyone at this time.
    Since they're already committed, they won't DARE back down. That would mean an unforgivable "loss of face". Something you find among Orientals just
    about everywhere is this infatuation with "death before dishonor." They'd rather DIE than be "humiliated." Fine. We'll oblige them...

    No one wants to die, stupid...
    Racist idiot...

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  • From .kitaro..@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 00:00:15 2022
    "Rusty Wyse" wrote in message news:a0a04fdd-ad4b-4dd0-b382-70145283293en@googlegroups.com...

    Can the US Navy fight and win a war?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/can-the-us-navy-fight-and-win-a-war/ar-AAPVHgC?ocid=msedgntp



    Yes, US Navy is a force to be reckoned and hence is able to fight a war. If not, how come they are still around after many years of supreme power in the seas.

    Henceforth, many countries also build up the naval force. But they do not
    have the budget and manpower and aircrafts to maintain their navy force.

    Most of them floundered and flunked their naval capacity and capability and their aircraft carrier, aircraft and manpower become tired from sea manning.

    Hence the manpower on board their ships get retired and hence often have to their docks for shore leaves to be with their loved ones.

    In short, they rest forever under "rest and recreation" or }shore leave".

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