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ltlee1, <news:b7a1f6fb-a3f2-4f05-9255-cebba3d45bban@googlegroups.com>

Such a thorough pact has, since last week, cemented the U.K. as
one of Ukraine's most steadfast supporters in the latter's war
against Russia. Notwithstanding the incredible lengths the
agreement goes to to provide Ukraine seemingly endless benefits,
the $3 billion donation marks the largest sum of annual funds
Britain has spent on their favorite Slavs over the past two years
of the war. What sparked this decision?" https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-u-k-bleeds-green-for-ukraine/

The UK (establishment) is hawkish on Russia, the Ukraine is just a
tool. It's an old complex, since centuries back. The UK had lost its
empire in a large part due to Russia (and then the USSR).

...

In the political class sense, the most hawkish on Russia are the UK
and Poland, while in the grassroots sense, the most anti-Russian, or Russophobic, are people in the Benelux region and close to it.

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ltlee1, <news:518e52c1-712a-4860-98ea-f20ecd45d71fn@googlegroups.com>

On Thursday, January 18, 2024 at 4:17:25?PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-u-k-bleeds-green-for-ukraine/ >>

The UK (establishment) is hawkish on Russia, the Ukraine is just a
tool. It's an old complex, since centuries back. The UK had lost its
empire in a large part due to Russia (and then the USSR).

...

In the political class sense, the most hawkish on Russia are the UK
and Poland, while in the grassroots sense, the most anti-Russian, or
Russophobic, are people in the Benelux region and close to it.

Agree on the UK-USSR great power rivalry of last century plays a role to
UK hawkish. I also think UK is hawkish because it is keenly aware of its
much diminished influence today. Not being a member of the EU, playing
up its NATO role is one avenue for it to be influential.

I also think "to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down" has long passed its sold by date.

Don't quite understand why Benelux region people are Russophobic. To the extent that they could accept Germany, why can't they similarly accept Russia?

Because of alienness, as there was, historically, little
interaction between Russia and the north-western corner of
Europe, so in their beliefs Russians must be sort of Huns.

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