• created an illusion

    From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to os333@netc.eu on Sun Nov 5 12:56:04 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian, ukr.politics
    XPost: alt.russian.z1

    Yesterday, the Ukraininan media reports

    | Former adviser to the Office of the President Alexei Arestovich
    | admitted he had previously misled Ukrainians .. "A significant
    | share of responsibility for the faith of an ordinary citizen in
    | our quick victory lies with me personally," he said in his
    | Telegram channel. "I created an illusion at that time .. Today
    | I am destroying it .." .. He recently stated that Kiev won't be
    | able .. called for negotiation .. <https://tinyurl.com/yksrqyyq>

    That's the way the pop-hypnotizer performs today.

    | Arestovich wrote his current post regarding an NBC News article,
    | which reported that the West is inclined to negotiate with the
    | Russian Federation to end the war in Ukraine ..

    The mentioned NBC News article is <https://tinyurl.com/ymnbsfka>



    2022-Jul-25 "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> wrote in message news:...
    ltlee1, <news:e78bd243-b8f5-4bd5-a460-0ffc0b8159f8n@googlegroups.com>

    Arestovich said they
    would fight as long as it takes, even for ten years. They realise that
    Ukraine may disappear, and a number of other states may appear in its
    place, as was the case with Yugoslavia.

    Arestovich is a TV-propagandist of the Kiev regime, who appears on their
    TV every day and tells something "psychotherapeutic", intended to maintain enthusiastic pro-war sentiment among the populace in the Kiev-controlled territory. I.e. it's not a rational political-military analysis but a kind
    of pop-show decorated to resemble an analysis.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 5 14:11:30 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian, ukr.politics
    XPost: alt.russian.z1

    <https://tinyurl.com/yl3conmo> nytimes.com

    Zelensky Rebuke of Top General Signals Rift in Ukrainian Leadership

    ...

    It's pretty natural that there would be a rift, given the military
    affairs are going much, much worse against the expectations they have
    developed before.

    Zelensky seems to seek to continue the desperate and fruitless effort
    of what they call "counter-offensive". But many top and middle
    commanders there are stunned by the very high losses of manpower and
    suggest to change something. In contrast to the fantastic numbers
    the Kiev regime and the Atlanticist MSM promote, the real losses are significantly not in favor of the Kiev regime, while Zelensky doesn't
    seem to care about it.

    Some anti-Semites say that Zelensky, while being Jewish, doesn't care
    about Slavic lives, so he's willing to send them to slaughter without
    much reflection. Also some Atlanticist politicians, in the US and
    Europe, made it clear they consider the Ukrainians a cheap expendable
    and even didn't hesitate to plainly speak out about it (the Poland's
    president Duda did so <https://archive.is/CXFuq>, for example). When,
    this summer, it turned out that the Leopard tanks and other pooper-
    dooper great Western weapons are well-destroyable, the Atlanticist
    patrons ordered the Kiev regime to stop using this heavy equipment in
    a large scale - since it's a bad marketing effect - but instead send
    more manpower to the attacks, which increased their manpower losses.

    So now they seem to have a sort of "rift" there.



    Yesterday, the Ukraininan media reports

    | Former adviser to the Office of the President Alexei Arestovich
    | admitted he had previously misled Ukrainians .. "A significant
    | share of responsibility for the faith of an ordinary citizen in
    | our quick victory lies with me personally," he said in his
    | Telegram channel. "I created an illusion at that time .. Today
    | I am destroying it .." .. He recently stated that Kiev won't be
    | able .. called for negotiation .. <https://tinyurl.com/yksrqyyq>

    That's the way the pop-hypnotizer performs today.

    | Arestovich wrote his current post regarding an NBC News article,
    | which reported that the West is inclined to negotiate with the
    | Russian Federation to end the war in Ukraine ..

    The mentioned NBC News article is <https://tinyurl.com/ymnbsfka>



    2022-Jul-25 "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> wrote in message news:...
    ltlee1, <news:e78bd243-b8f5-4bd5-a460-0ffc0b8159f8n@googlegroups.com>

    Arestovich said they
    would fight as long as it takes, even for ten years. They realise that
    Ukraine may disappear, and a number of other states may appear in its
    place, as was the case with Yugoslavia.

    Arestovich is a TV-propagandist of the Kiev regime, who appears on their
    TV every day and tells something "psychotherapeutic", intended to
    maintain enthusiastic pro-war sentiment among the populace in the
    Kiev-controlled territory. I.e. it's not a rational political-military
    analysis but a kind of pop-show decorated to resemble an analysis.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Nov 5 10:27:56 2023
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 11:12:28 AM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    <https://tinyurl.com/yl3conmo> nytimes.com

    Zelensky Rebuke of Top General Signals Rift in Ukrainian Leadership

    ...

    It's pretty natural that there would be a rift, given the military
    affairs are going much, much worse against the expectations they have developed before.

    Zelensky seems to seek to continue the desperate and fruitless effort
    of what they call "counter-offensive". But many top and middle
    commanders there are stunned by the very high losses of manpower and
    suggest to change something. In contrast to the fantastic numbers
    the Kiev regime and the Atlanticist MSM promote, the real losses are significantly not in favor of the Kiev regime, while Zelensky doesn't
    seem to care about it.

    Some anti-Semites say that Zelensky, while being Jewish, doesn't care
    about Slavic lives, so he's willing to send them to slaughter without
    much reflection. Also some Atlanticist politicians, in the US and
    Europe, made it clear they consider the Ukrainians a cheap expendable
    and even didn't hesitate to plainly speak out about it (the Poland's president Duda did so <https://archive.is/CXFuq>, for example). When,
    this summer, it turned out that the Leopard tanks and other pooper-
    dooper great Western weapons are well-destroyable, the Atlanticist
    patrons ordered the Kiev regime to stop using this heavy equipment in
    a large scale - since it's a bad marketing effect - but instead send
    more manpower to the attacks, which increased their manpower losses.

    So now they seem to have a sort of "rift" there.

    Ukraine will hole election next March. In the absence of battlefield success, a sort rift is inevitable.
    The question is whether the US would find a Jewish Zelenskyy more useful than a Slavic leader.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Sun Nov 5 10:21:00 2023
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:56:32 AM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    Yesterday, the Ukraininan media reports

    | Former adviser to the Office of the President Alexei Arestovich
    | admitted he had previously misled Ukrainians .. "A significant
    | share of responsibility for the faith of an ordinary citizen in
    | our quick victory lies with me personally," he said in his
    | Telegram channel. "I created an illusion at that time .. Today
    | I am destroying it .." .. He recently stated that Kiev won't be
    | able .. called for negotiation .. <https://tinyurl.com/yksrqyyq>

    That's the way the pop-hypnotizer performs today.

    | Arestovich wrote his current post regarding an NBC News article,
    | which reported that the West is inclined to negotiate with the
    | Russian Federation to end the war in Ukraine ..

    The mentioned NBC News article is <https://tinyurl.com/ymnbsfka>

    Russia's early failure last year did make it look like a giant with legs of iron and feet of
    half clay. NATO certainly did not mind to support Zelenskyy's Ukriane acting as the stone.
    But then things have changed. May be the US still sees Russia as weak. But Zelenskyy
    is certainly not the stone. And Ukraine itself is at present too weak to force Russia to
    sue for peace.

    The question now is what NATO under US leadership could and could not do?



    2022-Jul-25 "Oleg Smirnov" <os...@netc.eu> wrote in message news:...
    ltlee1, <news:e78bd243-b8f5-4bd5...@googlegroups.com>

    Arestovich said they
    would fight as long as it takes, even for ten years. They realise that
    Ukraine may disappear, and a number of other states may appear in its
    place, as was the case with Yugoslavia.

    Arestovich is a TV-propagandist of the Kiev regime, who appears on their TV every day and tells something "psychotherapeutic", intended to maintain enthusiastic pro-war sentiment among the populace in the Kiev-controlled territory. I.e. it's not a rational political-military analysis but a kind of pop-show decorated to resemble an analysis.

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 3 20:01:29 2024
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian, alt.russian.z1
    XPost: relcom.politics

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 3 20:04:48 2024
    Cross-posted in s/c/china by mistake.

    Oleg Smirnov, <news:un43ug$395j7$1@os.motzarella.org>

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