• Backstory: What Was the Indian Media Doing When a Genocide Was Playing

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 29 11:28:59 2023
    "The horrendous Hamas incursion into Israel which targeted civilians, including women, children and the elderly, will remain in global consciousness as a crime against humanity.

    What swiftly followed those brutal assaults of October 7 was the unremitting aerial bombing of Gaza, killing thousands of unarmed people, including women, children and the elderly, as part of Israel’s drive to seek “justice”.

    There is a back story here of colonisation, forced expulsion of Palestinians and the capture of their land. It has remained a blot on the West which had sought to assuage its guilt over the Nazi atrocities perpetrated on the Jews by making the
    Palestinians, who had no role in the Holocaust, pay the greatest price for it through the establishment of the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian soil. Over time, Israel evolved into a settler colonial apartheid state, capturing more and more of
    Palestinian land through untold, militarised repression until it has become what it is today: a nuclear power with one of the world’s most powerful armies, enabled by the steady drip of $3.8 billion from the US pouring in as military aid every year.

    There was a time when this back story was known in India; there was a time when the Indian political establishment extended solidarity to the Palestinian cause. That time has long passed and nothing indicated this better than India having abstained from
    a UNGA resolution on October 27, calling for an immediate humanitarian truce in Gaza. Remember, that three-day visit to Israel that Narendra Modi made in 2017 – the first Indian prime minister to do so? And how he followed it up with a three-hour visit
    to Ramallah the next year? The brevity of the latter visit and the statement which emanated from it signalled to the world that the careful balance India had hitherto maintained in its relations between the two entities had ended. Today, India is one of
    Israel’s most crucial trading partners. More relevant, it is the largest purchaser of Israel-made arms, apart from surveillance technology (‘Import Data Shows IB Bought Hardware From Israel Matching Kit Used for Pegasus, OCCRP Says’, The Wire,
    October 20, 2022). It has also emerged as the Indian establishment’s most favoured model for military and police deployment."

    https://thewire.in/media/backstory-what-was-the-indian-media-doing-when-a-genocide-was-playing-out-in-gaza

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 29 16:28:58 2023
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:29:01 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The horrendous Hamas incursion into Israel which targeted civilians, including women, children and the elderly, will remain in global consciousness as a crime against humanity.

    What swiftly followed those brutal assaults of October 7 was the unremitting aerial bombing of Gaza, killing thousands of unarmed people, including women, children and the elderly, as part of Israel’s drive to seek “justice”.

    There is a back story here of colonisation, forced expulsion of Palestinians and the capture of their land. It has remained a blot on the West which had sought to assuage its guilt over the Nazi atrocities perpetrated on the Jews by making the
    Palestinians, who had no role in the Holocaust, pay the greatest price for it through the establishment of the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian soil. Over time, Israel evolved into a settler colonial apartheid state, capturing more and more of
    Palestinian land through untold, militarised repression until it has become what it is today: a nuclear power with one of the world’s most powerful armies, enabled by the steady drip of $3.8 billion from the US pouring in as military aid every year.

    There was a time when this back story was known in India; there was a time when the Indian political establishment extended solidarity to the Palestinian cause. That time has long passed and nothing indicated this better than India having abstained
    from a UNGA resolution on October 27, calling for an immediate humanitarian truce in Gaza. Remember, that three-day visit to Israel that Narendra Modi made in 2017 – the first Indian prime minister to do so? And how he followed it up with a three-hour
    visit to Ramallah the next year? The brevity of the latter visit and the statement which emanated from it signalled to the world that the careful balance India had hitherto maintained in its relations between the two entities had ended. Today, India is
    one of Israel’s most crucial trading partners. More relevant, it is the largest purchaser of Israel-made arms, apart from surveillance technology (‘Import Data Shows IB Bought Hardware From Israel Matching Kit Used for Pegasus, OCCRP Says’, The
    Wire, October 20, 2022). It has also emerged as the Indian establishment’s most favoured model for military and police deployment."

    https://thewire.in/media/backstory-what-was-the-indian-media-doing-when-a-genocide-was-playing-out-in-gaza

    The slaughter in Gaza is horrendous. But why is the PRC state-controlled media so silent about the slaughter by Hamas in Israel?

    To make noise about one while ignoring the other is not logical.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Mon Oct 30 06:32:37 2023
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:28:59 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:29:01 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The horrendous Hamas incursion into Israel which targeted civilians, including women, children and the elderly, will remain in global consciousness as a crime against humanity.

    What swiftly followed those brutal assaults of October 7 was the unremitting aerial bombing of Gaza, killing thousands of unarmed people, including women, children and the elderly, as part of Israel’s drive to seek “justice”.

    There is a back story here of colonisation, forced expulsion of Palestinians and the capture of their land. It has remained a blot on the West which had sought to assuage its guilt over the Nazi atrocities perpetrated on the Jews by making the
    Palestinians, who had no role in the Holocaust, pay the greatest price for it through the establishment of the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian soil. Over time, Israel evolved into a settler colonial apartheid state, capturing more and more of
    Palestinian land through untold, militarised repression until it has become what it is today: a nuclear power with one of the world’s most powerful armies, enabled by the steady drip of $3.8 billion from the US pouring in as military aid every year.

    There was a time when this back story was known in India; there was a time when the Indian political establishment extended solidarity to the Palestinian cause. That time has long passed and nothing indicated this better than India having abstained
    from a UNGA resolution on October 27, calling for an immediate humanitarian truce in Gaza. Remember, that three-day visit to Israel that Narendra Modi made in 2017 – the first Indian prime minister to do so? And how he followed it up with a three-hour
    visit to Ramallah the next year? The brevity of the latter visit and the statement which emanated from it signalled to the world that the careful balance India had hitherto maintained in its relations between the two entities had ended. Today, India is
    one of Israel’s most crucial trading partners. More relevant, it is the largest purchaser of Israel-made arms, apart from surveillance technology (‘Import Data Shows IB Bought Hardware From Israel Matching Kit Used for Pegasus, OCCRP Says’, The
    Wire, October 20, 2022). It has also emerged as the Indian establishment’s most favoured model for military and police deployment."

    https://thewire.in/media/backstory-what-was-the-indian-media-doing-when-a-genocide-was-playing-out-in-gaza
    The slaughter in Gaza is horrendous. But why is the PRC state-controlled media so silent about the slaughter by Hamas in Israel?

    To make noise about one while ignoring the other is not logical.

    If you want to discuss official Chinese media, feel free to start a new thread. As is, I don't know what you are talking about. This thread is about changes of Indian media written by Pamela Philipose
    who is "an Indian journalist and researcher, who is a senior fellow at the Indian Council of Social Science Research."

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 10:40:22 2023
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 6:32:39 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:28:59 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:29:01 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The horrendous Hamas incursion into Israel which targeted civilians, including women, children and the elderly, will remain in global consciousness as a crime against humanity.

    What swiftly followed those brutal assaults of October 7 was the unremitting aerial bombing of Gaza, killing thousands of unarmed people, including women, children and the elderly, as part of Israel’s drive to seek “justice”.

    There is a back story here of colonisation, forced expulsion of Palestinians and the capture of their land. It has remained a blot on the West which had sought to assuage its guilt over the Nazi atrocities perpetrated on the Jews by making the
    Palestinians, who had no role in the Holocaust, pay the greatest price for it through the establishment of the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian soil. Over time, Israel evolved into a settler colonial apartheid state, capturing more and more of
    Palestinian land through untold, militarised repression until it has become what it is today: a nuclear power with one of the world’s most powerful armies, enabled by the steady drip of $3.8 billion from the US pouring in as military aid every year.

    There was a time when this back story was known in India; there was a time when the Indian political establishment extended solidarity to the Palestinian cause. That time has long passed and nothing indicated this better than India having abstained
    from a UNGA resolution on October 27, calling for an immediate humanitarian truce in Gaza. Remember, that three-day visit to Israel that Narendra Modi made in 2017 – the first Indian prime minister to do so? And how he followed it up with a three-hour
    visit to Ramallah the next year? The brevity of the latter visit and the statement which emanated from it signalled to the world that the careful balance India had hitherto maintained in its relations between the two entities had ended. Today, India is
    one of Israel’s most crucial trading partners. More relevant, it is the largest purchaser of Israel-made arms, apart from surveillance technology (‘Import Data Shows IB Bought Hardware From Israel Matching Kit Used for Pegasus, OCCRP Says’, The
    Wire, October 20, 2022). It has also emerged as the Indian establishment’s most favoured model for military and police deployment."

    https://thewire.in/media/backstory-what-was-the-indian-media-doing-when-a-genocide-was-playing-out-in-gaza
    The slaughter in Gaza is horrendous. But why is the PRC state-controlled media so silent about the slaughter by Hamas in Israel?

    To make noise about one while ignoring the other is not logical.
    If you want to discuss official Chinese media, feel free to start a new thread.
    As is, I don't know what you are talking about. This thread is about changes of Indian media written by Pamela Philipose
    who is "an Indian journalist and researcher, who is a senior fellow at the Indian Council of Social Science Research."

    Does it make sense to criticize one side but not the other regarding this Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Mon Oct 30 11:31:08 2023
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 6:32:39 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:28:59 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:29:01 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The horrendous Hamas incursion into Israel which targeted civilians, including women, children and the elderly, will remain in global consciousness as a crime against humanity.

    What swiftly followed those brutal assaults of October 7 was the unremitting aerial bombing of Gaza, killing thousands of unarmed people, including women, children and the elderly, as part of Israel’s drive to seek “justice”.

    There is a back story here of colonisation, forced expulsion of Palestinians and the capture of their land. It has remained a blot on the West which had sought to assuage its guilt over the Nazi atrocities perpetrated on the Jews by making the
    Palestinians, who had no role in the Holocaust, pay the greatest price for it through the establishment of the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian soil. Over time, Israel evolved into a settler colonial apartheid state, capturing more and more of
    Palestinian land through untold, militarised repression until it has become what it is today: a nuclear power with one of the world’s most powerful armies, enabled by the steady drip of $3.8 billion from the US pouring in as military aid every year.

    There was a time when this back story was known in India; there was a time when the Indian political establishment extended solidarity to the Palestinian cause. That time has long passed and nothing indicated this better than India having
    abstained from a UNGA resolution on October 27, calling for an immediate humanitarian truce in Gaza. Remember, that three-day visit to Israel that Narendra Modi made in 2017 – the first Indian prime minister to do so? And how he followed it up with a
    three-hour visit to Ramallah the next year? The brevity of the latter visit and the statement which emanated from it signalled to the world that the careful balance India had hitherto maintained in its relations between the two entities had ended. Today,
    India is one of Israel’s most crucial trading partners. More relevant, it is the largest purchaser of Israel-made arms, apart from surveillance technology (‘Import Data Shows IB Bought Hardware From Israel Matching Kit Used for Pegasus, OCCRP Says’,
    The Wire, October 20, 2022). It has also emerged as the Indian establishment’s most favoured model for military and police deployment."

    https://thewire.in/media/backstory-what-was-the-indian-media-doing-when-a-genocide-was-playing-out-in-gaza
    The slaughter in Gaza is horrendous. But why is the PRC state-controlled media so silent about the slaughter by Hamas in Israel?

    To make noise about one while ignoring the other is not logical.
    If you want to discuss official Chinese media, feel free to start a new thread.
    As is, I don't know what you are talking about. This thread is about changes of Indian media written by Pamela Philipose
    who is "an Indian journalist and researcher, who is a senior fellow at the Indian Council of Social Science Research."
    Does it make sense to criticize one side but not the other regarding this Israeli-Palestinian conflict?

    Are you sure you are not talking about the current government of Israel?

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 15:07:10 2023
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 11:31:11 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 5:40:24 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 6:32:39 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:28:59 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 11:29:01 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    "The horrendous Hamas incursion into Israel which targeted civilians, including women, children and the elderly, will remain in global consciousness as a crime against humanity.

    What swiftly followed those brutal assaults of October 7 was the unremitting aerial bombing of Gaza, killing thousands of unarmed people, including women, children and the elderly, as part of Israel’s drive to seek “justice”.

    There is a back story here of colonisation, forced expulsion of Palestinians and the capture of their land. It has remained a blot on the West which had sought to assuage its guilt over the Nazi atrocities perpetrated on the Jews by making the
    Palestinians, who had no role in the Holocaust, pay the greatest price for it through the establishment of the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian soil. Over time, Israel evolved into a settler colonial apartheid state, capturing more and more of
    Palestinian land through untold, militarised repression until it has become what it is today: a nuclear power with one of the world’s most powerful armies, enabled by the steady drip of $3.8 billion from the US pouring in as military aid every year.

    There was a time when this back story was known in India; there was a time when the Indian political establishment extended solidarity to the Palestinian cause. That time has long passed and nothing indicated this better than India having
    abstained from a UNGA resolution on October 27, calling for an immediate humanitarian truce in Gaza. Remember, that three-day visit to Israel that Narendra Modi made in 2017 – the first Indian prime minister to do so? And how he followed it up with a
    three-hour visit to Ramallah the next year? The brevity of the latter visit and the statement which emanated from it signalled to the world that the careful balance India had hitherto maintained in its relations between the two entities had ended. Today,
    India is one of Israel’s most crucial trading partners. More relevant, it is the largest purchaser of Israel-made arms, apart from surveillance technology (‘Import Data Shows IB Bought Hardware From Israel Matching Kit Used for Pegasus, OCCRP Says’,
    The Wire, October 20, 2022). It has also emerged as the Indian establishment’s most favoured model for military and police deployment."

    https://thewire.in/media/backstory-what-was-the-indian-media-doing-when-a-genocide-was-playing-out-in-gaza
    The slaughter in Gaza is horrendous. But why is the PRC state-controlled media so silent about the slaughter by Hamas in Israel?

    To make noise about one while ignoring the other is not logical.
    If you want to discuss official Chinese media, feel free to start a new thread.
    As is, I don't know what you are talking about. This thread is about changes of Indian media written by Pamela Philipose
    who is "an Indian journalist and researcher, who is a senior fellow at the Indian Council of Social Science Research."
    Does it make sense to criticize one side but not the other regarding this Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
    Are you sure you are not talking about the current government of Israel?

    I am talking about both the Israeli government and Hamas. Both are awful. But some people only criticize one side, though both are murderers.

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