"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe to theIsraeli military.
This presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gazalast week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-Ahli Baptist
Nevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early narratives about theattack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the light of Wednesday morning,
...Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity at al-Ahli
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.html
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:Israeli military.
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe to the
Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-Ahli BaptistThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern
the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the light of WednesdayNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early narratives about
Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity at al-
anything you want the person to say.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to synthesise
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:Israeli military.
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe to the
Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-Ahli BaptistThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern
the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the light of WednesdayNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early narratives about
Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity at al-
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to synthesiseanything you want the person to say.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:Israeli military.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe to the
Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-Ahli BaptistThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern
the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the light of WednesdayNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early narratives about
Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity at al-
anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to synthesise
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:Israeli military.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe to the
Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-Ahli BaptistThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern
about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the light ofNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early narratives
Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity at al-
anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to synthesise
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-13-23/h_805763aafe5be9c0e4c72bdbb2d45453
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:the Israeli military.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe to
northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-This presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in
about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the light ofNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early narratives
al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity at
anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to synthesise
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?
The whole thing sucks, btw. It is disingenuous to just blame one side.
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-13-23/h_805763aafe5be9c0e4c72bdbb2d45453
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:the Israeli military.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe to
northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-This presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in
about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the light ofNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early narratives
at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity
synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
Is Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?
The whole thing sucks, btw. It is disingenuous to just blame one side.
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-13-23/h_805763aafe5be9c0e4c72bdbb2d45453
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:to the Israeli military.
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe
northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-This presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in
narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the lightNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early
at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the present war."...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the calamity
synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
Is Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:to the Israeli military.
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the catastrophe
northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-This presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in
narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the lightNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early
calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the
synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:07:31 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:catastrophe to the Israeli military.
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the
in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-This presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals
narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the lightNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early
calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the
synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many? "On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
No matter what Israel does, Hamas wants to kill all Jews.Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:17:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:catastrophe to the Israeli military.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:07:31 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the
in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strike on the al-This presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals
narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the lightNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early
calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the
synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used to
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many? "On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY and prevent the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?No matter what Israel does, Hamas wants to kill all Jews.Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:catastrophe to the Israeli military.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:17:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:07:31 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the
hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strikeThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22
narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the lightNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early
calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for the
to synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY and prevent the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?No matter what Israel does, Hamas wants to kill all Jews.Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
Ridiculous. Giving notice makes it not indiscriminate. Both sides are to blame, but some people only blame one side. Denying the obvious.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:25:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:catastrophe to the Israeli military.
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:17:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:07:31 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the
hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strikeThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22
narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In the lightNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on early
the calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for
to synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be used
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY and prevent the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?No matter what Israel does, Hamas wants to kill all Jews.Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
Ridiculous. Giving notice makes it not indiscriminate. Both sides are to blame, but some people only blame one side. Denying the obvious.Giving notice does not makes it indiscriminate.
Nevertheless, the bombings do kill indiscriminately.
For example, CNN headline: "2,000 children killed in Gaza, aid group says, as tempers flare at UN amid ceasefire calls"
1. If you want to dispute the CNN figure, please tell the real figure.
2. If you think children and Hamas members are no mutually exclusive to what degree, please explain.
3. If 2000 children killed is not killing indiscriminately, what is your criteria?
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 5:49:40 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:catastrophe to the Israeli military.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:25:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:17:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:07:31 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the
hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strikeThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22
early narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In theNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on
the calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against the...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible for
used to synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY and prevent the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?No matter what Israel does, Hamas wants to kill all Jews.Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
But Israel gives notice. Hamas does not. It's ridiculously disingenuous to ignore that.Ridiculous. Giving notice makes it not indiscriminate. Both sides are to blame, but some people only blame one side. Denying the obvious.Giving notice does not makes it indiscriminate.
Nevertheless, the bombings do kill indiscriminately.
For example, CNN headline: "2,000 children killed in Gaza, aid group says, as tempers flare at UN amid ceasefire calls"
1. If you want to dispute the CNN figure, please tell the real figure.
2. If you think children and Hamas members are no mutually exclusive to what degree, please explain.
3. If 2000 children killed is not killing indiscriminately, what is your criteria?
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 10:36:21 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:the catastrophe to the Israeli military.
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:33:03 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 5:49:40 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:25:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:17:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:07:31 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed
hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strikeThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22
early narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In theNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on
for the calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible
be used to synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations. 2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY and prevent the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?No matter what Israel does, Hamas wants to kill all Jews.Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY WITH PRIOR NOTICE and preventing the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?But Israel gives notice. Hamas does not. It's ridiculously disingenuous to ignore that.Ridiculous. Giving notice makes it not indiscriminate. Both sides are to blame, but some people only blame one side. Denying the obvious.Giving notice does not makes it indiscriminate.
Nevertheless, the bombings do kill indiscriminately.
For example, CNN headline: "2,000 children killed in Gaza, aid group says, as tempers flare at UN amid ceasefire calls"
This is just playing with words now. Silly.1. If you want to dispute the CNN figure, please tell the real figure. 2. If you think children and Hamas members are no mutually exclusive to what degree, please explain.
3. If 2000 children killed is not killing indiscriminately, what is your criteria?
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:33:03 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:catastrophe to the Israeli military.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 5:49:40 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:25:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:31:20 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:17:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 5:07:31 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 1:49:38 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:25:40 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:43:27 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:24 PM UTC-7, dosai prata wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:06:59 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
"An explosive fell on the parking lot of a hospital in Gaza City Tuesday, killing a large number of Palestinians. Hamas attributed the blast to the Israeli military. Many news organizations and critics of Israel attributed the
hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization. And Israel had dropped more than 6,000 tons of bombs on the Gaza Strip since Hamas’s attack on October 7. The Israeli Defense Forces denied responsibility for the strikeThis presumption of Israeli responsibility was not unfounded. Israel had struck the hospital just days earlier, according to video footage obtained by the New York Times. The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22
early narratives about the attack. For example, there was a widespread sense Tuesday that the explosion had destroyed the hospital. This suggested that the blast was of a magnitude far larger than an Islamic Jihad rocket was capable of generating. In theNevertheless, presenting Israel’s responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital as a proven fact was journalistically irresponsible. And this irresponsibility became more apparent on Wednesday, when new information cast doubt on
for the calamity at al-Ahli Hospital has essentially no bearing on that case. There is simply no reason for advocates of the Palestinian cause to dig in on a factual debate about a single incident, rather than focusing on making their moral case against...
For all these reasons, the case for an immediate ceasefire — and durable end to a mode of warfare that takes mass Palestinian death as its acceptable price — is strong. And the question of whether Israel was responsible
used to synthesise anything you want the person to say.Satellite footage would help too.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/the-undisputed-facts-in-gaza-are-enough.htmlWhy isn't anyone going after those bomb fragments? They will reveal whether the bomb is Israeli or Islamic Jihad.
The Israeli audio recording which supposedly was that of Islamic Jihad is moot as proof. With technology today, you can take a sample of a person's voice recording and use it to build a model of his vocal cord. This can then be
We've gotten to a point where anything can be faked.1. "The Israeli military had ordered the evacuation of 22 hospitals in northern Gaza last week, according to the World Health Organization.
"Israel has given Al Awda Hospital in Gaza just two hours to evacuate, according to Doctors Without Borders, also known
as Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
That's what the terrorists did, and blamed Israel.Yes, Israel gave notice.The hospital, which is one of several that MSF supports in Gaza, was "still treating patients," the medical aid group said."Israel gave notice.
Is the above not evidence of Israeli intention to bomb indiscriminately, including hospitals?
1. Notices, in general, are given to create expectations.
2. All other things equal, bombing one hospital would constitute more effective notice.
3. Feel free to argue the following: "IF Israel is responsible, it is on Humanitarian ground."
What notice did Hamas give before their gunmen slaughtered so many?"On Saturday, after sixteen years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza.
More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed with over one hundred more
taken hostage—some of them friends and family of signatories to this letter."
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/10/14/an-open-letter-from-participants-in-the-palestine-festival-of-literature/
In case you don't know how much Palestinians had been killed by Israeli force, here is the informationIs Gaza, a city of 2 million people, not under seize for 16 years by Israeli force?Sounds like you need to do more research into why Gazan are not allowed to enter into Israel or Egypt.
originally from UN sources. https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Human-cost.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80
23 Palestinians for every Israeli killed.
Why are Israeli allowed freely to get into Palestinian regions to kill Palestinians and not likewise blockaded?
Might makes right?
2. Anyway, to intention to kill as many as possible is tested by which side is willing to pause.Israel wants to kill Hamas leaders.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY and prevent the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?No matter what Israel does, Hamas wants to kill all Jews.Hamas kills Israelis indiscriminately.
Does killing more Palestinians INDISCRIMINATELY WITH PRIOR NOTICE and preventing the Palestinians from having better lives stop their killing?But Israel gives notice. Hamas does not. It's ridiculously disingenuous to ignore that.Ridiculous. Giving notice makes it not indiscriminate. Both sides are to blame, but some people only blame one side. Denying the obvious.Giving notice does not makes it indiscriminate.
Nevertheless, the bombings do kill indiscriminately.
For example, CNN headline: "2,000 children killed in Gaza, aid group says, as tempers flare at UN amid ceasefire calls"
1. If you want to dispute the CNN figure, please tell the real figure. 2. If you think children and Hamas members are no mutually exclusive to what degree, please explain.
3. If 2000 children killed is not killing indiscriminately, what is your criteria?
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