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    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 05:25:16 2023
    Mr Podolyak said, “What’s the problem with China, India etc. - they are not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a
    lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this country fully comprehends what the modern world is about.“

    In what way Mr Podolyak was right?

    What is Mr Podolyak and Zelenskyy's role in the Russo-Ukraine conflict?
    It is clear that Ukraine itself cannot hope to fight Russia successfully. It needs strong sponsors, in this case, the US other EU nations. And Mr Podolyak and Zelenskyy's job are mostly knowing when to say what intelligently to get billion and billion
    dollars of freebies from the US and EU sponsors.

    The following is a demonstration of high intellectual potential in understanding the outcome of certain actions. In case American politicians, it was spelled out for them.

    "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned in a television interview on Thursday that the United States could face the "collapse of NATO" or a direct conflict with Russia if Ukraine does not win the war.

    Zelenskyy's comments come less than four weeks before a NATO summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, where support for Ukraine will be a central topic on the agenda for the military alliance. President Joe Biden is also expected to announce increased security
    guarantees for Ukraine ahead of the summit in July.
    Speaking through an interpreter, Zelenskyy issued a stark warning to any American politician or 2024 presidential candidate who is skeptical about providing more aid to equip Kyiv in its war against Russia.

    "Is he ready to go to war? To fight, to send his kids? Are they ready to die?" Zelenskyy asked. "Because anyway, they will have to do this if NATO gets involved."
    ...
    "If Ukraine would lose, if Russia would occupy Ukraine, Russia will continue going toward Baltic countries, Poland, etcetera," he said. "They will start war with one of the NATO countries and at this moment the United States will have to choose the
    collapse of NATO or go to war." "

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/16/zelenskyy-news-nato-russia-war-ukraine/70328925007/

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 22:39:26 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian

    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e-b83d-701cc3f49c9cn@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are
    not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries
    have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in
    science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now
    trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in
    public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV
    that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it
    sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this
    news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the
    activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside
    public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional
    Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup
    Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and
    during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect.
    Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the
    violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression
    against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting
    such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Mon Sep 18 10:50:22 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 3:40:55 PM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>
    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."
    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV
    that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it
    sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this
    news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the
    activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup
    Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the
    violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting
    such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

    Neo-Nazism is not dead yet. It still has many believers in Western nations. But overall racial superiority is quite yesteryear. The new fad popularized is
    Western political system, i.e. Western style democracy, superiority.

    Yesteryear's racism had spawn fake science of some race had larger brains. Today's cult of Western style democracy superiority popularized by Western elites has spawn the "science" of Western style democracy would give rise to economic prosperity. However, the more researchers have look into the issue, the more they would find a nothing-burger.

    Deep faith in Western style democracy by the elites also generates the false sense that peoples such as the Chinese are somewhat stupid. Else they
    would overturn their obviously inferior political system.

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 11:15:46 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:50:24 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 3:40:55 PM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>
    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this
    country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."
    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup
    Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").
    Neo-Nazism is not dead yet. It still has many believers in Western nations. But overall racial superiority is quite yesteryear. The new fad popularized is
    Western political system, i.e. Western style democracy, superiority.

    Yesteryear's racism had spawn fake science of some race had larger brains. Today's cult of Western style democracy superiority popularized by Western elites has spawn the "science" of Western style democracy would give rise to economic prosperity. However, the more researchers have look into the issue, the more they would find a nothing-burger.

    Deep faith in Western style democracy by the elites also generates the false sense that peoples such as the Chinese are somewhat stupid. Else they
    would overturn their obviously inferior political system.

    More power to the Chinese people if they can develop a democracy, western style or not. They currently don't have a democracy of any kind.

    Neither does Russia. You guys are full it.

    Typical gaslighting.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 05:25:50 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 12:25:17 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
    Mr Podolyak said, “What’s the problem with China, India etc. - they are not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a
    lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this country fully comprehends what the modern world is about.“

    In what way Mr Podolyak was right?

    What is Mr Podolyak and Zelenskyy's role in the Russo-Ukraine conflict?
    It is clear that Ukraine itself cannot hope to fight Russia successfully. It needs strong sponsors, in this case, the US other EU nations. And Mr Podolyak and Zelenskyy's job are mostly knowing when to say what intelligently to get billion and billion
    dollars of freebies from the US and EU sponsors.

    The following is a demonstration of high intellectual potential in understanding the outcome of certain actions. In case American politicians, it was spelled out for them.

    "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned in a television interview on Thursday that the United States could face the "collapse of NATO" or a direct conflict with Russia if Ukraine does not win the war.

    Zelenskyy's comments come less than four weeks before a NATO summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, where support for Ukraine will be a central topic on the agenda for the military alliance. President Joe Biden is also expected to announce increased security
    guarantees for Ukraine ahead of the summit in July.
    Speaking through an interpreter, Zelenskyy issued a stark warning to any American politician or 2024 presidential candidate who is skeptical about providing more aid to equip Kyiv in its war against Russia.

    "Is he ready to go to war? To fight, to send his kids? Are they ready to die?" Zelenskyy asked. "Because anyway, they will have to do this if NATO gets involved."
    ...
    "If Ukraine would lose, if Russia would occupy Ukraine, Russia will continue going toward Baltic countries, Poland, etcetera," he said. "They will start war with one of the NATO countries and at this moment the United States will have to choose the
    collapse of NATO or go to war." "

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/16/zelenskyy-news-nato-russia-war-ukraine/70328925007/

    Yet another case of low 'intellectual potential'?

    "Today I am putting leadership of the House, the Senate, and the President of the United States on notice. I will not consent
    to the expedited passage of any spending measure providing more American aid to Ukraine.

    Simply put: We have no extra money to send to Ukraine. Our deficit this year will exceed $1.5 trillion. Borrowing money from
    China to send to Ukraine makes no sense.

    Since the beginning of Russia’s war in Ukraine, the American taxpayer has provided Kiev $113 billion. Over the 583 days of
    war between February 24, 2022 and the end of this month, that average will come to $6.8 billion per month—or $223 million
    per day.

    This week, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky is in Washington to lobby Congress to approve the Biden administration’s
    $24 billion supplemental aid request.

    When will the aid requests end? When will the war end? Can someone explain what victory in Ukraine looks like? President
    Biden certainly can’t. His administration has failed to articulate a clear strategy or objective in this war, and Ukraine’s long-
    awaited counter-offensive has failed to make meaningful gains in the east.

    With no clear end in sight, it looks increasingly likely that Ukraine will be yet another endless quagmire funded by the American
    taxpayer. That’s why public support for the war is waning. A CNN poll from August shows that a majority of Americans now
    oppose Congress authorizing additional funding to Ukraine. "

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-federal-government-should-not-be-held-hostage-for-ukraine-funding/

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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 22:17:48 2023
    ltlee1, <news:c62bfb98-217d-49e9-aeda-85803502b244n@googlegroups.com>
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 3:40:55?PM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting
    such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

    Neo-Nazism is not dead yet. It still has many believers in Western nations. But overall racial superiority is quite yesteryear. The new fad popularized is Western political system, i.e. Western style democracy, superiority.

    Yesteryear's racism had spawn fake science of some race had larger brains. Today's cult of Western style democracy superiority popularized by Western elites has spawn the "science" of Western style democracy would give rise to economic prosperity. However, the more researchers have look into the
    issue, the more they would find a nothing-burger.

    Deep faith in Western style democracy by the elites also generates the false sense that peoples such as the Chinese are somewhat stupid. Else they
    would overturn their obviously inferior political system.

    Yes, some thinkers call it "cultural racism". Meanwhile the yesteryear's features are still present in the hearts of some people, while political correctness is quite often a cover for hypocrisy. It sometimes happens
    even so that one calls exaggeratedly someone else "racist" to express "politely" this one's own racist(-like) attitude towards that someone.

    The fact that the mentioned functionarie ranted "the Asians lack of the
    human qualities that we have" means the man isn't well-accustomed to the Western culture of hypocrisy. Indeed, the Ukraine is not "the West". And
    after this little and almost unnoticed scandal he will likely become more careful in his public expressions, and that's all.

    Then, the fact that the West ardently supports the regime established in
    the Ukraine as a result of the 2014 coup, may be understood as somewhat a bridge between the yesteryear's superiority in old terms and the renewed "Western style democracy", exposing certain "genetic" relatedness between
    this and that.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Thu Sep 21 13:23:26 2023
    On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 7:18:28 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    ltlee1, <news:c62bfb98-217d-49e9...@googlegroups.com>
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 3:40:55?PM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting >> such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South") >> to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

    Neo-Nazism is not dead yet. It still has many believers in Western nations.
    But overall racial superiority is quite yesteryear. The new fad popularized
    is Western political system, i.e. Western style democracy, superiority.

    Yesteryear's racism had spawn fake science of some race had larger brains. Today's cult of Western style democracy superiority popularized by Western elites has spawn the "science" of Western style democracy would give rise to
    economic prosperity. However, the more researchers have look into the issue, the more they would find a nothing-burger.

    Deep faith in Western style democracy by the elites also generates the false
    sense that peoples such as the Chinese are somewhat stupid. Else they would overturn their obviously inferior political system.
    Yes, some thinkers call it "cultural racism". Meanwhile the yesteryear's features are still present in the hearts of some people, while political correctness is quite often a cover for hypocrisy. It sometimes happens
    even so that one calls exaggeratedly someone else "racist" to express "politely" this one's own racist(-like) attitude towards that someone.

    Political correctness , or simply, the liberal/left wing of Western style democracy
    nurtures cultural racism and contributes to overt racial violence. In the US, there
    is a division of labor between the left and the right. The left/liberal preaches the
    superiority of Western democracy. The extreme right assigns an European/White people origin to this NATURAL superiority. Viola, the "Replace Theory" which could readily explain all social ills was born.

    The ForeignAffairs.com has a piece today entitled "American Hatred Goes Global".

    "Far-right violence today is increasingly fueled by a deadly combination of ideology and strategy imported from the United States.
    The “great replacement” theory, which claims that nonwhite individuals are purposefully being brought into Western countries to
    undermine the political power of white voters, got its start in France, but this kind of thinking has long been a fixture of American
    white supremacism. "

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/american-hatred-goes-global

    The fact that the mentioned functionarie ranted "the Asians lack of the human qualities that we have" means the man isn't well-accustomed to the Western culture of hypocrisy. Indeed, the Ukraine is not "the West". And after this little and almost unnoticed scandal he will likely become more careful in his public expressions, and that's all.

    Then, the fact that the West ardently supports the regime established in
    the Ukraine as a result of the 2014 coup, may be understood as somewhat a bridge between the yesteryear's superiority in old terms and the renewed "Western style democracy", exposing certain "genetic" relatedness between this and that.

    This could be how Zelenskyy understand US support when he made the following statement, “As long as we are resisting it, the integrity of the United States will continue,
    therefore we are giving our lives for your values and the joint security of the world.
    Therefore, inflation is nothing, COVID is nothing."

    "[T]he integrity of the United State will continue, ..." comes in strange at first. I later realized
    that he probably thinks like American white supremacists. Racial integrity and political
    superiority come together. There would not be political superiority and world stability without
    racial integrity among NATO nations. While Ukraine is fighting against Russia, it is also fighting
    for the same racial and political superior system.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to bmoore on Fri Sep 22 06:32:43 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:15:49 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 10:50:24 AM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 3:40:55 PM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>
    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are
    not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries
    have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this
    country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."
    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South") to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").
    Neo-Nazism is not dead yet. It still has many believers in Western nations.
    But overall racial superiority is quite yesteryear. The new fad popularized is
    Western political system, i.e. Western style democracy, superiority.

    Yesteryear's racism had spawn fake science of some race had larger brains. Today's cult of Western style democracy superiority popularized by Western elites has spawn the "science" of Western style democracy would give rise to
    economic prosperity. However, the more researchers have look into the issue,
    the more they would find a nothing-burger.

    Deep faith in Western style democracy by the elites also generates the false
    sense that peoples such as the Chinese are somewhat stupid. Else they would overturn their obviously inferior political system.
    More power to the Chinese people if they can develop a democracy, western style or not. They currently don't have a democracy of any kind.

    Neither does Russia. You guys are full it.

    Typical gaslighting.

    What make anyone think the Chinese people comprising one fifth of humanity are not already
    powerful in getting whatever political system they need and desire? Is this kind of "wish" not just
    a way to disparage them?

    Of course, many could answer with "All men are created equal" as proclaimed by Thomas Jefferson
    in the Declaration of Independence. Hence Chinese are considered equal. But everyone, including
    Hitler, could mouth the word with a clear conscience. The obvious reality, centuries ago and now, is
    that "Men (including women) are not born equal." No one has yet to proclaim "All men/women
    are born equal."

    Please also consider the rise of extreme right. On the one hand, social changes do make many,
    I mean millions of Americans, kind of hopeless. On the other hand, they are told decades after
    decades that Western democracy is the best possible system. America is the New Canaan, the
    land of milk and honey bestowed to American by God to be "The city on the hill." No? Of course
    some, easily tens of thousands if not millions, would readily accept the "Great Replacement"
    theory to explain American decline as well as their own personal difficulties.


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  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 19:40:25 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H44RxR9apzE> part 1

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ8cB0oOzaw> part 2

    Sarah Ashton-Cirillo <https://is.gd/AFbPBC> speaks out typal
    things while believing the conversation is with Peter Poroshenko,
    at 05:40 in Part 1 the speech is about the Danilov's rant.



    Oleg Smirnov, <news:ue2c01$3crvi$1@os.motzarella.org>
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e-b83d-701cc3f49c9cn@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are
    not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries
    have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in
    science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now
    trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this
    country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in
    public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV
    that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it
    sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this
    news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants of
    the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the
    activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the
    violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting
    such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Wed Sep 27 13:05:00 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:43:38 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H44RxR9apzE> part 1

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ8cB0oOzaw> part 2

    Sarah Ashton-Cirillo <https://is.gd/AFbPBC> speaks out typal
    things while believing the conversation is with Peter Poroshenko,
    at 05:40 in Part 1 the speech is about the Danilov's rant.



    Oleg Smirnov, <news:ue2c01$3crvi$1...@os.motzarella.org>
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are >> not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries >> have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in
    science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now
    trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this >> country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

    I am not good at judging youtube video unless the person involved is a well known
    character from a well known site with a lot of followers such as America's Tucker
    Carlson. Video could be easily PS or voiced over.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 23:20:30 2023
    ltlee1, <news:9f128ab9-f766-45cf-84b0-2015ab3d8dc4n@googlegroups.com>
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:43:38?PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    I am not good at judging youtube video unless the person involved is a
    well known
    character from a well known site with a lot of followers such as America's Tucker
    Carlson. Video could be easily PS or voiced over.

    What does make you believe it's for you personally?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Wed Sep 27 17:44:10 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:20:56 PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    ltlee1, <news:9f128ab9-f766-45cf...@googlegroups.com>
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:43:38?PM UTC, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

    I am not good at judging youtube video unless the person involved is a well known
    character from a well known site with a lot of followers such as America's Tucker
    Carlson. Video could be easily PS or voiced over.
    What does make you believe it's for you personally?

    May be you get me wrong. I don't think anything on youtube is for me or any small
    number of people. Rather, I don't know how to judge. Not different from my inability
    to judge whether any poster is a human and not a bot, let alone nationality.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 21:48:56 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H44RxR9apzE> part 1

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ8cB0oOzaw> part 2

    Sarah Ashton-Cirillo <https://is.gd/AFbPBC> speaks out typal
    things while believing the conversation is with Peter Poroshenko,
    at 05:40 in Part 1 the speech is about the Danilov's rant.

    Youtube usually eliminates such stuff after some time, more links
    to other platforms may be often found elsewhere, in social networks
    and forums (e.g. <https://tinyurl.com/2bufwaxo>), or within
    "Russian" internet, which non-Russian speakers can browse with help
    of machine translation.

    This prankster duo has a long reputation for misc pranks with misc
    persons, including some very top politicians, famous artists and
    the like. Some analysts speculate Kremlin's secret services must be
    helping them technically. Whether it's so or not, it doesn't change
    the fact that their product helps understand people's internals.



    Oleg Smirnov, <news:ue2c01$3crvi$1@os.motzarella.org>
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e-b83d-701cc3f49c9cn@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are
    not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries
    have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in
    science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now
    trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that
    this country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in
    public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors
    /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV
    that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media /
    propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it
    sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this
    news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants of
    the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their
    mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the
    activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside
    public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional
    Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against "mongoloid
    Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup Kiev regime
    include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians
    (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2
    (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect.
    Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the
    violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression
    against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting
    such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 10:23:11 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, nl.politiek, fr.soc.politique
    XPost: de.talk.tagesgeschehen, alt.russian.z1

    New prank with Giorgia Meloni
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UqvHuG4WoQ> english and subtitles <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8uN8-3T6dE> russian

    Some official Italian comments on it my be read e.g. here <https://tinyurl.com/yq5bburj> corriere.it
    <https://tinyurl.com/yr5p5dz4> fanpage.it

    The latter are for those too smart-acute ones who seek to believe it's
    an artificially generated fake. Italian officials have admitted the
    fact of the prank. Here's what the morons are saying then.

    "Very serious facts emerged from the phone call to Meloni".
    "She spoke about our foreign policy and other sensitive issues
    for our security and credibility, from the war to migrants.
    Meloni admits that she can no longer see a way out other than
    negotiation. It's disconcerting how the security protocols of
    Palazzo Chigi can be circumvented. A global fool .." / ".. I
    wonder how it is possible to reach such a devastating level of
    superficiality that makes not only Meloni but the Italian
    Republic look bad." ..

    The above Youtube links will probably be valid for a couple of days
    or less. Iirc, Youtube expelled Vovan&Lexus duo after their prank with
    the UK's Ben Wallace exposed him as a complete oaf. The Euroscum of
    course hate when the Russian comedians expose them, so they demanded
    Youtube to abuse censorship and ban the talented actors.

    Ms. Giorgia Meloni is one of the European clownish top politicians.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgia_Meloni>



    Youtube usually eliminates such stuff after some time, more links
    to other platforms may be often found elsewhere, in social networks
    and forums (e.g. <https://tinyurl.com/2bufwaxo>), or within
    "Russian" internet, which non-Russian speakers can browse with help
    of machine translation.

    This prankster duo has a long reputation for misc pranks with misc
    persons, including some very top politicians, famous artists and
    the like. Some analysts speculate Kremlin's secret services must be
    helping them technically. Whether it's so or not, it doesn't change
    the fact that their product helps understand people's internals.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Erika Ciesla@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 09:27:00 2023
    XPost: fr.soc.politique, de.talk.tagesgeschehen

    Am 02.11.23 um 09:15 Uhr Fred Alph schrieb:


    EU = Katastrophe!

    Ja, für Euresgleichen.

    Für uns™ nicht.

    Bandera ist eine sehr umstrittene historische Figur, die bis
    heute polarisiert.

    Ja, das war er. Aber hatte er eine Chance? Er hatte die Wahl zwischen
    Stalin und Hitler, und er wählte falsch. Hätte er anders entschieden,
    wäre es aber auch falsch gewesen. Die Griechen haben ein schönes Wort
    dafür, wenn man zwei Optionen hat, aber beide falsch sind: sie nennen
    das ein Dilemma.


     
     🖖️😊 𝓔𝓻𝓲𝓴𝓪 𝓒𝓲𝓮𝓼́𝓵𝓪

    --

    Übrigens!

    Seit 1903 kann der Mensch fliegen,
    seit 1911 wirft er Bomben. 😰️

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Fred Alph@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Thu Nov 2 09:15:32 2023
    XPost: fr.soc.politique, de.talk.tagesgeschehen

    Oleg Smirnov schrieb am 02.11.2023 :
    New prank with Giorgia Meloni
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UqvHuG4WoQ> english and subtitles

    Der Frau Giorgia Meloni sagt "Stepan Bandera" *) nichts?

    Bildungsferne nun also auch schon bei den Rechten?!

    Mit solchen Politikern kann man Europa vergessen!

    EU = Katastrophe!

    :/




    *)
    Bandera ist eine sehr umstrittene historische Figur, die bis
    heute polarisiert. In Polen, Russland und Israel gilt er als
    Nazi-Kollaborateur und Kriegsverbrecher. In der Ukraine
    hingegen, vor allem in der Westukraine **), wird er als
    Unabhängigkeits- und Freiheitskämpfer gefeiert und
    zum Nationalhelden erhoben. ....
    -----
    Die Denkmäler sind von ganz unterschiedlicher Größe. Das
    Bandera-Denkmal in Lwiw misst sieben Meter vor einem 30-
    Meter-Bogen, das in Iwano-Frankiwsk ist auf einem 4,8-
    Hektar-Grund errichtet, was etwa sechs Fußballfeldern
    entspricht. Als anderes Extrem findet man eine bescheidene
    Statue und eine Reihe entsprechend gestalteter Büsten in den
    Dörfern Horischne (Oblast Lwiw) und Usyn (Oblast Iwano-Frankiwsk)
    mit ihren 701 bzw. 927 Einwohnern (im Jahr 2001). Einige Denkmäler
    sind sehr zentral in den Städten platziert, etwa das in Velyki
    Mostys (Oblast Lwiw), das auf dem Unabhängigkeitsplatz, dem
    früheren Lenin-Platz, steht; andere, wie die in Butschatsch oder Pidwolotschysk (Oblast Ternopil), sind an der Peripherie gelegen.

    https://www.bpb.de/cache/images/0/194640_galerie_lightbox_box_1000x666.jpg

    https://www.bpb.de/themen/europa/ukraine-analysen/194637/analyse-stepan-banderas-nachleben-wird-gefeiert/

    **)
    October 29th, 2022.
    LEMBERG feiert Gruendung der galizischen Division der Waffen-SS
    Ukraine: Lvov residents celebrating the creation of the Nazi
    Waffen SS Galician division
    Video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gGKiIhglgOGR/

    14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_%281st_Galician%29

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Victor Alekhine@21:1/5 to Oleg Smirnov on Thu Nov 2 10:55:38 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, nl.politiek, fr.soc.politique
    XPost: de.talk.tagesgeschehen, alt.russian.z1

    On 11/2/2023 8:23 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
    New prank with Giorgia Meloni
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UqvHuG4WoQ> english and subtitles <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8uN8-3T6dE> russian

    Some official Italian comments on it my be read e.g. here <https://tinyurl.com/yq5bburj> corriere.it
    <https://tinyurl.com/yr5p5dz4> fanpage.it

    The latter are for those too smart-acute ones who seek to believe it's
    an artificially generated fake. Italian officials have admitted the
    fact of the prank. Here's what the morons are saying then.

     "Very serious facts emerged from the phone call to Meloni".
     "She spoke about our foreign policy and other sensitive issues
     for our security and credibility, from the war to migrants.
     Meloni admits that she can no longer see a way out other than
     negotiation. It's disconcerting how the security protocols of
     Palazzo Chigi can be circumvented. A global fool .." / ".. I
     wonder how it is possible to reach such a devastating level of
     superficiality that makes not only Meloni but the Italian
     Republic look bad." ..

    The above Youtube links will probably be valid for a couple of days or
    less. Iirc, Youtube expelled Vovan&Lexus duo after their prank with
    the UK's Ben Wallace exposed him as a complete oaf. The Euroscum of
    course hate when the Russian comedians expose them, so they demanded
    Youtube to abuse censorship and ban the talented actors.

    Ms. Giorgia Meloni is one of the European clownish top politicians.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgia_Meloni>



    Youtube usually eliminates such stuff after some time, more links
    to other platforms may be often found elsewhere, in social networks
    and forums (e.g. <https://tinyurl.com/2bufwaxo>), or within "Russian"
    internet, which non-Russian speakers can browse with help
    of machine translation.

    This prankster duo has a long reputation for misc pranks with misc
    persons, including some very top politicians, famous artists and
    the like. Some analysts speculate Kremlin's secret services must be
    helping them technically. Whether it's so or not, it doesn't change
    the fact that their product helps understand people's internals.

    O!
    Лейтенант вернулся
    Хм, вроде из окопов только бывших зеков отпускат
    Ты как, обратно поедешь денафицировать?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From nico@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 10:34:52 2023
    XPost: fr.soc.politique, de.talk.tagesgeschehen

    Am 02.11.2023 um 09:27 schrieb Erika Ciesla:
    Am 02.11.23 um 09:15 Uhr Fred Alph schrieb:


    EU = Katastrophe!

    Ja, für Euresgleichen.

    Für uns™ nicht.

    Mit "uns" meinst Du sicher geistig Mindestbemittelte wie Dich, nicht
    wahr albernes Blag?
     
     LOL 𝓔𝓻𝓲𝓴𝓪 𝓒𝓲𝓮𝓼́𝓵𝓪 LOL


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 3 00:25:18 2023
    XPost: fr.soc.politique, de.talk.tagesgeschehen

    Fred Alph, <news:uhvlri$2j41l$1@news.nnpt4.net>
    Oleg Smirnov schrieb am 02.11.2023 :
    New prank with Giorgia Meloni
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UqvHuG4WoQ> english and subtitles

    Der Frau Giorgia Meloni sagt "Stepan Bandera" *) nichts?

    Bildungsferne nun also auch schon bei den Rechten?!

    Mit solchen Politikern kann man Europa vergessen!

    EU = Katastrophe!

    :/




    *)
    Bandera ist eine sehr umstrittene historische Figur, die bis
    heute polarisiert. In Polen, Russland und Israel gilt er als Nazi-Kollaborateur und Kriegsverbrecher. In der Ukraine
    hingegen, vor allem in der Westukraine **), wird er als
    Unabhngigkeits- und Freiheitskmpfer gefeiert und
    zum Nationalhelden erhoben. ....

    It's all discussable, but there is a less distant and more simple
    history. There was a coup in the Ukraine in 2014. It was violent, in
    favor of a minority, and against any democratic procedures. Europe
    praised and welcomed those violent and unlawful developments. And any
    violence naturally tends to beget more violence.

    So Europe needs to recognize the mistake and repent.

    Repentance is the only way to sanity.



    -----
    Die Denkmler sind von ganz unterschiedlicher Gre. Das
    Bandera-Denkmal in Lwiw misst sieben Meter vor einem 30-
    Meter-Bogen, das in Iwano-Frankiwsk ist auf einem 4,8-
    Hektar-Grund errichtet, was etwa sechs Fuballfeldern
    entspricht. Als anderes Extrem findet man eine bescheidene
    Statue und eine Reihe entsprechend gestalteter Bsten in den
    Drfern Horischne (Oblast Lwiw) und Usyn (Oblast Iwano-Frankiwsk)
    mit ihren 701 bzw. 927 Einwohnern (im Jahr 2001). Einige Denkmler
    sind sehr zentral in den Stdten platziert, etwa das in Velyki
    Mostys (Oblast Lwiw), das auf dem Unabhngigkeitsplatz, dem
    frheren Lenin-Platz, steht; andere, wie die in Butschatsch oder Pidwolotschysk (Oblast Ternopil), sind an der Peripherie gelegen.

    https://www.bpb.de/cache/images/0/194640_galerie_lightbox_box_1000x666.jpg

    https://www.bpb.de/themen/europa/ukraine-analysen/194637/analyse-stepan-banderas-nachleben-wird-gefeiert/

    **)
    October 29th, 2022.
    LEMBERG feiert Gruendung der galizischen Division der Waffen-SS
    Ukraine: Lvov residents celebrating the creation of the Nazi
    Waffen SS Galician division
    Video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gGKiIhglgOGR/

    14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_%281st_Galician%29

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 3 05:33:38 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, nl.politiek, fr.soc.politique
    XPost: de.talk.tagesgeschehen, alt.russian.z1

    New prank with Giorgia Meloni
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UqvHuG4WoQ> english and subtitles <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8uN8-3T6dE> russian

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGIgbTUAAGQ>

    This account seems to have gotten the most viewers and comments, and
    the comments are mostly positive. Judging by them, such a "political
    prank" genre is indeed in popular demand. Perhaps the reason is that
    the present-day "western democracy" has accumulated too much hypocrisy
    combined with too much ignorance and other evil elements.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 14 08:19:26 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, nl.politiek, fr.soc.politique
    XPost: de.talk.tagesgeschehen, alt.russian.z1

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aabh-o3Uyjo>

    German Leader Fooled By Russian Comedians ..

    Germany's Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck ... made several revelations ..



    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGIgbTUAAGQ>

    This account seems to have gotten the most viewers

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From nico@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 14 11:21:32 2023
    XPost: soc.culture.russian, nl.politiek, fr.soc.politique
    XPost: de.talk.tagesgeschehen, alt.russian.z1

    Am 14.12.2023 um 06:19 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aabh-o3Uyjo>

    German Leader Fooled By Russian Comedians ..

    Germany's Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck ... made several revelations ..

    Tell news!


    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGIgbTUAAGQ>

    This account seems to have gotten the most viewers

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)