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    From David P.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 25 17:13:25 2023
    A Crisis of Confidence Is Gripping China’s Economy
    By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Claire Fu, Aug. 25, 2023, NY Times
    Earlier this year, David Yang was brimming with confidence about the prospects for his perfume factory in eastern China.

    After nearly three years of paralyzing Covid lockdowns, China had lifted its restrictions in late 2022. The economy seemed destined to roar back to life. Mr. Yang and his two business partners invested more than $60,000 in March to expand production
    capacity at the factory, expecting a wave of growth.

    But the new business never materialized. In fact, it’s worse. People are not spending, he said, and orders are one-third of what they were five years ago.

    “It is disheartening,” Mr. Yang said. “The economy is really going downhill right now.”

    For much of the past four decades, China’s economy seemed like an unstoppable force, the engine behind the country’s rise to a global superpower. But the economy is now plagued by a series of crises. A real estate crisis born from years of
    overbuilding and excessive borrowing is running alongside a larger debt crisis, while young people are struggling with record joblessness. And amid the drip feed of bad economic news, a new crisis is emerging: a crisis of confidence.

    A growing lack of faith in the future of the Chinese economy is verging on despair. Consumers are holding back on spending. Businesses are reluctant to invest and create jobs. And would-be entrepreneurs are not starting new businesses.

    “Low confidence is a major issue in the Chinese economy now,” said Larry Hu, chief China economist for Macquarie Group, an Australian financial services firm.

    Mr. Hu said the erosion of confidence was fueling a downward spiral that fed on itself. Chinese consumers aren’t spending because they are worried about job prospects, while companies are cutting costs and holding back on hiring because consumers aren
    t spending.

    In the past few weeks, investors have pulled more than $10 billion out of China’s stock markets. On Thursday, China’s top securities regulator summoned executives at the country’s national pension funds, top banks and insurers to pressure them to
    invest more in Chinese stocks, according to Caixin, an economics magazine. Last week, stocks in Hong Kong fell into a bear market, down more than 20 percent from their high in January.

    From its resilience to past challenges, China forged a deep belief in its economy and its state-controlled model. It rebounded quickly in 2009 from the global financial meltdown, and in spectacular fashion. It weathered a Trump administration trade war
    and proved its indispensability. When the pandemic dragged down the rest of the world, China’s economy bounced back with vigor. The Global Times, a mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party, declared in 2022 that China was the “unstoppable miracle.


    One factor contributing to the current confidence deficit is the prospect that China’s policymakers have fewer good options to fight the downturn than in the past.

    In 2018, with the economy in a trade war with the United States and its stock market nose-diving, Xi Jinping, China’s leader, gave a rousing speech.

    Mr. Xi was addressing an international trade fair in Shanghai and sought to quell the uncertainty: No one should ever waver in their confidence about the Chinese economy, despite some ups and downs, he said.

    “The Chinese economy is not a pond, but an ocean,” Mr. Xi said. “The ocean may have its calm days, but big winds and storms are only to be expected. Without them, the ocean wouldn’t be what it is. Big winds and storms may upset a pond, but never
    an ocean. When you talk about the future of the Chinese economy, you have every reason to be confident.”

    But in recent months, Mr. Xi has said little about the economy.

    Unlike past crises that were international in nature, a convergence of long-simmering domestic problems is confronting China — some a result of policy changes carried out by Mr. Xi’s government.

    After the 2008 financial crisis, China unleashed a huge stimulus package to get the economy moving again. In 2015, when its real estate market was teetering, Beijing handed out cash to consumers to replace run-down shacks with new apartments as part of
    an urban redevelopment plan that gave rise to another building boom in smaller Chinese cities.

    Now, policymakers are confronting a far different landscape, forcing them to rethink the usual playbook. Local governments and businesses are saddled with more debt and less leeway to borrow heavily and spend liberally. And after decades of
    infrastructure investments, there isn’t as much need for another airport or bridge — the types of big projects that would spur the economy.

    China’s policymakers are also handcuffed because they introduced many of the measures that precipitated the economic problems. The “zero Covid” lockdowns brought the economy to a standstill. The real estate market is reeling from the government’s
    measures from three years ago to curb heavy borrowing by developers, while crackdowns on the fast-growing technology industry prompted many tech firms to scale back their ambitions and the size of their work forces.

    When China’s top leaders gathered in July to discuss the rapidly deteriorating economy, they did not deliver a bazooka-style spending program as some had anticipated. Coming out of the meeting, the Political Bureau of the Chinese Communist Party
    presented a laundry list of pronouncements — many rehashed from previous statements — without any new announcements. It focused, however, on the need to “boost confidence,” without detailing the measures that showed policymakers were ready to do
    that.

    “Whether you have confidence in the Chinese economy is actually whether you have confidence in the Chinese government,” said Kim Yuan, who lost his job in the home decoration industry last year. He has struggled to find another job, but he said the
    economy was unlikely to worsen significantly as long as the government maintained control.

    Confronted with dwindling confidence, the government has fallen back on a familiar pattern and stopped announcing troubling economic data.

    This month, China’s National Bureau of Statistics said it would stop releasing youth unemployment figures, a closely watched indicator of the country’s economic troubles. After six straight months of rising joblessness among the country’s 16- to 24-
    year-olds, the agency said the collection of those figures needed “to be further improved and optimized.”

    The bureau this year also stopped releasing surveys of consumer confidence, among the best barometers of households’ willingness to spend. Confidence rebounded modestly at the start of the year, but started to plummet in the spring. The government’s
    statistics office last announced the survey results for April, discontinuing a series it began 33 years ago.

    Instead of giving people less to worry about, the sudden removal of closely followed data has left some on Chinese social media wondering what they might be missing.

    Laurence Pan, 27, noticed that something was beginning to go awry in 2018 when customers at the international advertising agency in Beijing where he worked started to scale back budgets. Over the next few years, he hopped from one agency to another, but
    the caution from clients around spending was the same.

    He resigned from his last employer three months ago. Mr. Pan said that he had secured new jobs quickly in the past, but that he was struggling to find a position this time. He has applied for nearly 30 jobs since last month and has not received an offer.
    He said he was considering part-time work at a convenience store or a fast-food restaurant to make ends meet. With so many uncertainties, he has cut back on his spending.

    “Everyone is having a hard time now, and they have no money to spend,” he said. “This might be the most difficult time I’ve ever been through.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/business/china-economy-confidence.html

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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 27 07:16:03 2023
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/business/china-economy-confidence.html

    China’s economy, which once seemed unstoppable, is plagued by a series of problems, and a growing lack of faith in the future is verging on despair.

    Earlier this year, David Yang was brimming with confidence about the prospects for his perfume factory in eastern China.

    After nearly three years of paralyzing Covid lockdowns, China had lifted its restrictions in late 2022. The economy seemed destined to roar back to life. Mr. Yang and his two business partners invested more than $60,000 in March to expand production
    capacity at the factory, expecting a wave of growth.

    But the new business never materialized. In fact, it’s worse. People are not spending, he said, and orders are one-third of what they were five years ago.

    “It is disheartening,” Mr. Yang said. “The economy is really going downhill right now.”

    For much of the past four decades, China’s economy seemed like an unstoppable force, the engine behind the country’s rise to a global superpower. But the economy is now plagued by a series of crises. A real estate crisis born from years of
    overbuilding and excessive borrowing is running alongside a larger debt crisis, while young people are struggling with record joblessness. And amid the drip feed of bad economic news, a new crisis is emerging: a crisis of confidence.

    A growing lack of faith in the future of the Chinese economy is verging on despair. Consumers are holding back on spending. Businesses are reluctant to invest and create jobs. And would-be entrepreneurs are not starting new businesses.

    “Low confidence is a major issue in the Chinese economy now,” said Larry Hu, chief China economist for Macquarie Group, an Australian financial services firm.

    Mr. Hu said the erosion of confidence was fueling a downward spiral that fed on itself. Chinese consumers aren’t spending because they are worried about job prospects, while companies are cutting costs and holding back on hiring because consumers aren
    t spending.

    In the past few weeks, investors have pulled more than $10 billion out of China’s stock markets. On Thursday, China’s top securities regulator summoned executives at the country’s national pension funds, top banks and insurers to pressure them to
    invest more in Chinese stocks, according to Caixin, an economics magazine. Last week, stocks in Hong Kong fell into a bear market, down more than 20 percent from their high in January.

    [...]

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  • From dosai prata@21:1/5 to David P. on Mon Aug 28 21:49:49 2023
    On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 12:13:27 AM UTC, David P. wrote:
    A Crisis of Confidence Is Gripping China’s Economy
    By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Claire Fu, Aug. 25, 2023, NY Times
    Earlier this year, David Yang was brimming with confidence about the prospects for his perfume factory in eastern China.

    After nearly three years of paralyzing Covid lockdowns, China had lifted its restrictions in late 2022. The economy seemed destined to roar back to life. Mr. Yang and his two business partners invested more than $60,000 in March to expand production
    capacity at the factory, expecting a wave of growth.

    But the new business never materialized. In fact, it’s worse. People are not spending, he said, and orders are one-third of what they were five years ago.

    “It is disheartening,” Mr. Yang said. “The economy is really going downhill right now.”

    For much of the past four decades, China’s economy seemed like an unstoppable force, the engine behind the country’s rise to a global superpower. But the economy is now plagued by a series of crises. A real estate crisis born from years of
    overbuilding and excessive borrowing is running alongside a larger debt crisis, while young people are struggling with record joblessness. And amid the drip feed of bad economic news, a new crisis is emerging: a crisis of confidence.

    A growing lack of faith in the future of the Chinese economy is verging on despair. Consumers are holding back on spending. Businesses are reluctant to invest and create jobs. And would-be entrepreneurs are not starting new businesses.

    “Low confidence is a major issue in the Chinese economy now,” said Larry Hu, chief China economist for Macquarie Group, an Australian financial services firm.

    Mr. Hu said the erosion of confidence was fueling a downward spiral that fed on itself. Chinese consumers aren’t spending because they are worried about job prospects, while companies are cutting costs and holding back on hiring because consumers
    aren’t spending.

    In the past few weeks, investors have pulled more than $10 billion out of China’s stock markets. On Thursday, China’s top securities regulator summoned executives at the country’s national pension funds, top banks and insurers to pressure them to
    invest more in Chinese stocks, according to Caixin, an economics magazine. Last week, stocks in Hong Kong fell into a bear market, down more than 20 percent from their high in January.

    From its resilience to past challenges, China forged a deep belief in its economy and its state-controlled model. It rebounded quickly in 2009 from the global financial meltdown, and in spectacular fashion. It weathered a Trump administration trade war
    and proved its indispensability. When the pandemic dragged down the rest of the world, China’s economy bounced back with vigor. The Global Times, a mouthpiece for the Chinese Communist Party, declared in 2022 that China was the “unstoppable miracle.


    One factor contributing to the current confidence deficit is the prospect that China’s policymakers have fewer good options to fight the downturn than in the past.

    In 2018, with the economy in a trade war with the United States and its stock market nose-diving, Xi Jinping, China’s leader, gave a rousing speech.

    Mr. Xi was addressing an international trade fair in Shanghai and sought to quell the uncertainty: No one should ever waver in their confidence about the Chinese economy, despite some ups and downs, he said.

    “The Chinese economy is not a pond, but an ocean,” Mr. Xi said. “The ocean may have its calm days, but big winds and storms are only to be expected. Without them, the ocean wouldn’t be what it is. Big winds and storms may upset a pond, but
    never an ocean. When you talk about the future of the Chinese economy, you have every reason to be confident.”

    But in recent months, Mr. Xi has said little about the economy.

    Unlike past crises that were international in nature, a convergence of long-simmering domestic problems is confronting China — some a result of policy changes carried out by Mr. Xi’s government.

    After the 2008 financial crisis, China unleashed a huge stimulus package to get the economy moving again. In 2015, when its real estate market was teetering, Beijing handed out cash to consumers to replace run-down shacks with new apartments as part of
    an urban redevelopment plan that gave rise to another building boom in smaller Chinese cities.

    Now, policymakers are confronting a far different landscape, forcing them to rethink the usual playbook. Local governments and businesses are saddled with more debt and less leeway to borrow heavily and spend liberally. And after decades of
    infrastructure investments, there isn’t as much need for another airport or bridge — the types of big projects that would spur the economy.

    China’s policymakers are also handcuffed because they introduced many of the measures that precipitated the economic problems. The “zero Covid” lockdowns brought the economy to a standstill. The real estate market is reeling from the government’
    s measures from three years ago to curb heavy borrowing by developers, while crackdowns on the fast-growing technology industry prompted many tech firms to scale back their ambitions and the size of their work forces.

    When China’s top leaders gathered in July to discuss the rapidly deteriorating economy, they did not deliver a bazooka-style spending program as some had anticipated. Coming out of the meeting, the Political Bureau of the Chinese Communist Party
    presented a laundry list of pronouncements — many rehashed from previous statements — without any new announcements. It focused, however, on the need to “boost confidence,” without detailing the measures that showed policymakers were ready to do
    that.

    “Whether you have confidence in the Chinese economy is actually whether you have confidence in the Chinese government,” said Kim Yuan, who lost his job in the home decoration industry last year. He has struggled to find another job, but he said the
    economy was unlikely to worsen significantly as long as the government maintained control.

    Confronted with dwindling confidence, the government has fallen back on a familiar pattern and stopped announcing troubling economic data.

    This month, China’s National Bureau of Statistics said it would stop releasing youth unemployment figures, a closely watched indicator of the country’s economic troubles. After six straight months of rising joblessness among the country’s 16- to
    24-year-olds, the agency said the collection of those figures needed “to be further improved and optimized.”

    The bureau this year also stopped releasing surveys of consumer confidence, among the best barometers of households’ willingness to spend. Confidence rebounded modestly at the start of the year, but started to plummet in the spring. The government’
    s statistics office last announced the survey results for April, discontinuing a series it began 33 years ago.

    Instead of giving people less to worry about, the sudden removal of closely followed data has left some on Chinese social media wondering what they might be missing.

    Laurence Pan, 27, noticed that something was beginning to go awry in 2018 when customers at the international advertising agency in Beijing where he worked started to scale back budgets. Over the next few years, he hopped from one agency to another,
    but the caution from clients around spending was the same.

    He resigned from his last employer three months ago. Mr. Pan said that he had secured new jobs quickly in the past, but that he was struggling to find a position this time. He has applied for nearly 30 jobs since last month and has not received an
    offer. He said he was considering part-time work at a convenience store or a fast-food restaurant to make ends meet. With so many uncertainties, he has cut back on his spending.

    “Everyone is having a hard time now, and they have no money to spend,” he said. “This might be the most difficult time I’ve ever been through.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/business/china-economy-confidence.html

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  • From dosai prata@21:1/5 to bmoore on Mon Aug 28 22:10:42 2023
    On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 2:16:05 PM UTC, bmoore wrote:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/business/china-economy-confidence.html

    China’s economy, which once seemed unstoppable, is plagued by a series of problems, and a growing lack of faith in the future is verging on despair.
    Earlier this year, David Yang was brimming with confidence about the prospects for his perfume factory in eastern China.

    After nearly three years of paralyzing Covid lockdowns, China had lifted its restrictions in late 2022. The economy seemed destined to roar back to life. Mr. Yang and his two business partners invested more than $60,000 in March to expand production
    capacity at the factory, expecting a wave of growth.

    But the new business never materialized. In fact, it’s worse. People are not spending, he said, and orders are one-third of what they were five years ago.

    “It is disheartening,” Mr. Yang said. “The economy is really going downhill right now.”

    For much of the past four decades, China’s economy seemed like an unstoppable force, the engine behind the country’s rise to a global superpower. But the economy is now plagued by a series of crises. A real estate crisis born from years of
    overbuilding and excessive borrowing is running alongside a larger debt crisis, while young people are struggling with record joblessness. And amid the drip feed of bad economic news, a new crisis is emerging: a crisis of confidence.

    A growing lack of faith in the future of the Chinese economy is verging on despair. Consumers are holding back on spending. Businesses are reluctant to invest and create jobs. And would-be entrepreneurs are not starting new businesses.

    “Low confidence is a major issue in the Chinese economy now,” said Larry Hu, chief China economist for Macquarie Group, an Australian financial services firm.

    Mr. Hu said the erosion of confidence was fueling a downward spiral that fed on itself. Chinese consumers aren’t spending because they are worried about job prospects, while companies are cutting costs and holding back on hiring because consumers
    aren’t spending.

    In the past few weeks, investors have pulled more than $10 billion out of China’s stock markets. On Thursday, China’s top securities regulator summoned executives at the country’s national pension funds, top banks and insurers to pressure them to
    invest more in Chinese stocks, according to Caixin, an economics magazine. Last week, stocks in Hong Kong fell into a bear market, down more than 20 percent from their high in January.
    [...]
    What's wrong with the Chinese economy?

    When China was in the throes of the COVID-19 pandemic, doomsayers had a field day predicting its imminent collapse. China recovers from the pandemic much better than many of those doomsayers' own countries. Yet it's boom time again for China's
    doomsayers. This time its the Chinese economy.

    "The Chinese economy is collapsing", "China's impressive growth is ending", "The Rise of China has turned downwards, "The China Model is proving to be wrong", etc..

    Is it really that bad?

    Since its opening up in 1978, China's a free-market economy with a mix of state- and private-enterprises. Like any free-market economy, it has its boom and bust cycles.
    Right now it's in a bust cycle. In an economic bust cycle, speculative sectors such as properties and stocks tend to suffer more. This is the market mechanism to weed out the weak and over-speculative parts of the economy. The economy will come out the
    better after this.

    Another reason for China's current economic malaise is due to its 'Factory of the World' model. This is low-tech, low-pay, labor-intensive, with large foreign investments. These factories are easily transferable to other parts of the world. This makes
    China's economy vulnerable to foreign manipulations. China's economy must emphasise the innovations to provide the high-techs to feed the low-tech stages.


    The long term problem that the Chinese economy faces is this:

    China's economy is predicted to overtake that of the US to become the Number One in the world. This makes China a Strategic Competitor of the US. For this reason, the US is using every means possible to prevent China's economy from going global.
    Central to this strategy is to curtail the growth of Chinese high-tech industries. This is the same strategy that was used to deal with Japan's world leading economy in the 1980s and 1990s

    The excuses used by the US to mask its unfair competition against China.
    1. National security.
    2. To reduce the risk of being highly dependent on China in the supply-chain.


    What should be Chinese Economic Strategy in the long term?

    Long term
    1. Going global.
    The Chinese economy must strive to go global. The Chinese government must help to open doors for Chinese trade, investments and products, globally. It must overcome any internationally organised resistance to the global outreach of its economy. This is
    going to be difficult for China in a World Order dominated by the US but it has no other choice. Otherwise it will end up like Japan in the 1980-1990.

    3. Innovation
    Besides going global, the Chinese economy should be driven by innovation. Innovations that contribute to more competitive products in terms of technology, price and quality. Such Chinese products will not only be consumed locally but also globally.


    After causing the Japs economy to falter in the 1980-1990, the Westerners blamed it on lack of domestic consumption. Similarly, they now blame the Chinese for not spending enough. Domestic consumption is not the "cure". Taking this prescription would
    lead China into a trap of its enemies. If China cannot produce competitive domestic products, consumption would mean consuming foreign products. Chinese money would be flowing mostly one way, i.e., out of the country. This is not going to make any nation'
    s economy strong.

    In summary, the Chinese economy has to be innovative enough to produce competitive goods and sell them to the world. The Chinese government has to ensure that no country is unfairly closing its market to Chinese goods.

    "Going Global Against Unfair Competition with Innovation". That's the slogan.

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