• All roads lead to Phoenix. But No Water + No Workers = No Chips

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 7 13:28:52 2023
    "All roads lead to Phoenix. On the gravy train of greenfield investment riding on the back of Inflation Reduction Act legislative incentives in the United States, no county ranks higher than Arizona’s Maricopa. The county leads the nation in foreign
    direct investment, with Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp. (TSMC), Intel, LG Energy, and others expanding their footprint in the Grand Canyon State. But Phoenix is neither the next Rome nor the next Detroit. The reasons boil down to workers and
    water.

    First, the labor. America’s skilled worker shortage has been well documented since before the Trump-era immigration slump and pandemic border closures. Especially in the tech industry—the United States’ most productive, high-wage, and globally
    dominant sector—a huge deficit in homegrown engineering talent and endlessly bungled immigration policies have left Big Tech with no choice but to outsource more jobs abroad.

    Arizona dangled its low taxes and sunshine, but TSMC has had to fly in Taiwanese technicians to jump-start production at the 4 nanometer chip plant that was meant to be completed by 2024, but has been delayed until 2025 at the earliest.

    The salvage operation calls into question whether the more advanced and miniaturized 3 nanometer plant—scheduled to open in 2026 will stay on course. (With two-thirds of its customer base—including Apple, AMD, Qualcomm, Broadcom, Nvidia, Marvell,
    Analog Devices, and Intel—in the United States, it’s no wonder TSMC wants to speed things up.)

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/04/tsmc-taiwan-arizona-semiconductors-climate-canada-labor-water/

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 13:18:04 2023
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    "All roads lead to Phoenix. On the gravy train of greenfield investment riding on the back of Inflation Reduction Act legislative incentives in the United States, no county ranks higher than Arizona’s Maricopa. The county leads the nation in foreign
    direct investment, with Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp. (TSMC), Intel, LG Energy, and others expanding their footprint in the Grand Canyon State. But Phoenix is neither the next Rome nor the next Detroit. The reasons boil down to workers and
    water.

    First, the labor. America’s skilled worker shortage has been well documented since before the Trump-era immigration slump and pandemic border closures. Especially in the tech industry—the United States’ most productive, high-wage, and globally
    dominant sector—a huge deficit in homegrown engineering talent and endlessly bungled immigration policies have left Big Tech with no choice but to outsource more jobs abroad.

    Arizona dangled its low taxes and sunshine, but TSMC has had to fly in Taiwanese technicians to jump-start production at the 4 nanometer chip plant that was meant to be completed by 2024, but has been delayed until 2025 at the earliest.

    The salvage operation calls into question whether the more advanced and miniaturized 3 nanometer plant—scheduled to open in 2026 will stay on course. (With two-thirds of its customer base—including Apple, AMD, Qualcomm, Broadcom, Nvidia, Marvell,
    Analog Devices, and Intel—in the United States, it’s no wonder TSMC wants to speed things up.)

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/04/tsmc-taiwan-arizona-semiconductors-climate-canada-labor-water/

    Danny Seiden, president and CEO of the Arizona Chamber of Commerce dutifully responded to the above with an article
    entitled "Arizona Is Not Running Out of Water or Workers". https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/15/tsmc-semiconductors-arizona-taiwan-climate-chips/?
    "Contrary to what the authors wrote, the new model has not frozen new housing construction in the Phoenix area. In fact,
    the region has more than 80,000 new houses in the pipeline for which water certificates have been issued." And the author
    gave the following link the response:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arizona-limits-new-housing-phoenix-dwindling-water-supply-rcna87390

    Click the provided link and, viola, an article with the headline and sub-headline of
    "Arizona limits new housing around Phoenix because of dwindling water supply Officials said developers could still build in the affected areas but would need to find alternative water sources to
    do so — such as surface or recycled water."

    And of course, Arizona is not running out of water providing that manufacturers built and run their own
    water recycle system.

    "Intel’s 12-acre onsite water reclamation facility at its Ocotillo campus in Chandler, Arizona, treats more than 9
    million gallons of water a day, enabling its four fabs and counting to reuse water constantly within its systems.
    ...
    Likewise, TSMC, which announced a $40 billion investment to build two high-tech fabs in the state, is in the
    planning stage of building an onsite water reclamation plant, enabling its Arizona operations to achieve near-zero
    liquid discharge."





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  • From bmoore@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 16:00:33 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:18:06 PM UTC-7, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
    "All roads lead to Phoenix. On the gravy train of greenfield investment riding on the back of Inflation Reduction Act legislative incentives in the United States, no county ranks higher than Arizona’s Maricopa. The county leads the nation in
    foreign direct investment, with Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp. (TSMC), Intel, LG Energy, and others expanding their footprint in the Grand Canyon State. But Phoenix is neither the next Rome nor the next Detroit. The reasons boil down to workers
    and water.

    First, the labor. America’s skilled worker shortage has been well documented since before the Trump-era immigration slump and pandemic border closures. Especially in the tech industry—the United States’ most productive, high-wage, and globally
    dominant sector—a huge deficit in homegrown engineering talent and endlessly bungled immigration policies have left Big Tech with no choice but to outsource more jobs abroad.

    Arizona dangled its low taxes and sunshine, but TSMC has had to fly in Taiwanese technicians to jump-start production at the 4 nanometer chip plant that was meant to be completed by 2024, but has been delayed until 2025 at the earliest.

    The salvage operation calls into question whether the more advanced and miniaturized 3 nanometer plant—scheduled to open in 2026 will stay on course. (With two-thirds of its customer base—including Apple, AMD, Qualcomm, Broadcom, Nvidia, Marvell,
    Analog Devices, and Intel—in the United States, it’s no wonder TSMC wants to speed things up.)

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/04/tsmc-taiwan-arizona-semiconductors-climate-canada-labor-water/
    Danny Seiden, president and CEO of the Arizona Chamber of Commerce dutifully responded to the above with an article
    entitled "Arizona Is Not Running Out of Water or Workers". https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/15/tsmc-semiconductors-arizona-taiwan-climate-chips/?
    "Contrary to what the authors wrote, the new model has not frozen new housing construction in the Phoenix area. In fact,
    the region has more than 80,000 new houses in the pipeline for which water certificates have been issued." And the author
    gave the following link the response:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arizona-limits-new-housing-phoenix-dwindling-water-supply-rcna87390

    Click the provided link and, viola, an article with the headline and sub-headline of
    "Arizona limits new housing around Phoenix because of dwindling water supply Officials said developers could still build in the affected areas but would need to find alternative water sources to
    do so — such as surface or recycled water."

    And of course, Arizona is not running out of water providing that manufacturers built and run their own
    water recycle system.

    "Intel’s 12-acre onsite water reclamation facility at its Ocotillo campus in Chandler, Arizona, treats more than 9
    million gallons of water a day, enabling its four fabs and counting to reuse water constantly within its systems.
    ...
    Likewise, TSMC, which announced a $40 billion investment to build two high-tech fabs in the state, is in the
    planning stage of building an onsite water reclamation plant, enabling its Arizona operations to achieve near-zero
    liquid discharge."

    Maybe TSMC is concerned about consequences of the invasion of the free people of Taiwan. Water would be the least of TSMC's problems.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 10:58:02 2023
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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)