• More about political philosophy.. (2/3)

    From computer45@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 6 13:50:03 2018
    [continued from previous message]

    Please read the rest of my post to understand better:

    More precision about the true essence of nazism, read again:

    We have to get into philosophy , philosophy is like mathematics
    and it must adhere to the essence of humanity that is perfection and
    strongness , so it must be "precise" and precise "calculations", and
    its goal must be the goal of wisdom that is to comprehend or to know !

    So what is the true essence of nazism?

    1- The living conditions

    The living conditions of Germans in the time of Hitler were still too
    much difficult, so German people were suffering, because life in the
    time of Hitler was still a real difficult task.

    2- The consequence

    The consequence of this really bad living conditions is that Hitler
    was much more violent than average people, so he has
    choosen to "maximize" "efficiency" because he was a true "racist" and
    nazism was also "racism", so he has started violently to kill handicaped
    people to be more efficient, and to maximize efficiency he has started
    to kill jews, because jews for him were an evil for different reasons:
    because also he has viewed jews as being capitalists ! so since he was socialist, he has used, like communists, the tool of "Class Struggle" of communism and he has started violently persecuting jews and killing
    them, communists also has persecuted the capitalists !
    also Hitler has wanted to kill jews because he has viewed jews
    as being "anormal" and more "violent", even if his thinking was not
    based on science ! that was also the weakness of nazism, because
    this was not based on science. For example when Hitler has said
    that German people was the superior "race" over the others,
    yet this affirmation was not based on science, so i think
    also that nazism was not based correctly on science.

    And here is my other proof that nazism and neo-nazism
    are not accepted by efficient morality:

    Futility of nazism and neo-nazism..

    Nazism and neo-nazism are childish in that they want violently to
    maximize efficiency, this is the essence of nazism , it wants also
    to maximize efficiency even using violence, so we can not be confident
    with nazism and neo-nazism because they are like childish ideologies
    because they are not thought correctly.

    You have to know about efficient morality, i have said that efficient
    morality is performance and reliability, and morality is composed of
    a priori pure moral inferred from reason and empirical moral inferred
    from experience, but that's not so efficient because we have to include
    what i called "guidance of moral": like happiness and tolerance that are
    parts of the "set" of our essence, because we are capable of knowing
    them and feeling them and measuring with them, i think that this
    guidance of moral is a prerequisite to counter nazism and neo-nazism,
    because nazism says to maximize efficiency even with violence, but since guidance of moral that is inherent to us and a priori pure moral that
    takes into account reliability says that this act of nazism that
    maximize efficiency even with violence that it is an extremism that is
    too violent, because reliability sees this act of nazism as being too
    violent that causes violence, and guidance of moral that is inherent to
    almost all of us sees this act of nazism as being not acceptable , so
    nazism and neo-nazism is out of question and they are not accepted by
    efficient morality.

    The essence of Nazism..

    So what is the essence of Nazism ?

    When we become smart we have to find the shortest path to the solution,
    here it is:

    Nazism is also racism, but this racism of nazism is a violent racism
    that maximizes efficiency, and this racism that maximizes efficiency is
    a racism towards others that are not us, and it is a violent racism
    towards us, this is why nazism has tried to exterminate handicaped
    people, but you have to be careful with nazism because it tries also to exterminate the weak members to maximize efficiency, this is inherent to nazism, so imagine that we are attaining general artificial
    intelligence, so nazism can say by maximizing efficiency
    to exterminate humans that are not needed for a best efficiency,
    this is why nazism or neo-nazism is violent and dangerous.



    I have said:

    "because a society is constrained by general morality such as laws
    that states that what is bad is "relative" to our
    level of sophistication by performance and reliability or if you want
    that it is relative to the level of quality that we have attained, this
    is why i have said, that corruption of morality is measured by
    the level of "quality" that we have attained or if you want by the
    essence of humanity that is perfection and strongness"

    Is there any contradiction or is there a "bug" ?

    No, in the above i have said that: "because a society is constrained by
    general morality such as laws that states that what is bad is
    "relative" to our level of sophistication by performance and reliability"

    So i am stating that it is the level of quality that we have attained
    by performance and reliability, so morality is constrained by
    reliability, so you can not simply say that corruption of morality is
    measured by the level of "quality", this will introduce a "bug" that
    can bring violence to the system, so measuring of corruption of
    morality is measured by and relative to performance and reliability, so
    hope you have understood this distinction. And morality is then safe !

    Read again my "final" corrected post

    About our humanity

    What do you think i have done also by constructing my political philosophy ?

    I have done like philosophy.

    And i have showed that the essence of our humanity is perfection and
    strongness that gives rise to "hate", it is that we want to be
    perfection and more strong that we hate the others, also i have showed
    what is morality and what is efficient morality, i have showed that
    efficient morality is performance and reliability, it is like saying it
    is the essence of humanity that is perfection and strongness, and
    efficient morality that is performance and reliability gives rise
    to a level of "quality" by wich we are measuring corruption of morality, because a society is constrained by general morality such as laws
    that states that what is bad is "relative" to our
    level of sophistication by performance and reliability or if you want
    that it is relative to the level of quality that we have attained, this
    is why i have said, that corruption of morality is measured by
    the level of "quality" that we have attained or if you want by the
    essence of humanity that is perfection and strongness, and it is how
    also we are measuring craziness or foolishness , by this level of
    quality that we have attained, it's this "relativeness" that permits us
    to measure corrruption of morality.

    Please read the rest of my thoughts:

    About the essence of philosophy

    What do you think is philosophy?

    How do you think you can understand the essence of laws and laws?

    How do you think you can understand morality ?

    Philosophy is like the light that has given rise to morality !

    Let me please ask you a question ?

    If i ask a question of how can you measure corruption of morality
    and i ask you to come up with an efficient answer that abstract well,
    you have to be capable of "philosophy", this is what i am doing..

    Philosophy is like feeling better our world, it is feeling the essence
    of its parts !

    When i say for example in my philosophy that essence of humanity
    is perfection and strongness, you are feeling more this essence,
    and you start to be more efficient in your thinking , and when
    i say that relativeness that is part of our essence do permit
    us to measure corruption by relativeness to the essence of
    our humanity that is perfection and strongness, you are again
    feeling more the essence of our humanity, and philosophy permit
    you to climb and to climb by knowing the essence of our humanity
    and by comprehending more, for example i have proved that
    efficient morality is morality is performance and reliability,
    but this definition lacks abstraction, because idiocy of maximization of efficiency of neo-nazism and nazism will interpret it not correctly,
    so we have to be efficient abstraction that knows how to define
    morality with the right words that model correctly morality
    as a whole ! this is how i am doing in my political philosophy,
    i am climbing and climbing..

    Please read again, to notice it:

    Do we have to fear morality ?

    I said before that efficient morality is performance and reliability,
    those two, performance and reliability do model efficient morality as a
    whole ! but this is not a finality, because efficient morality is
    constrained by empirical moral that says that "intolerance" that hurts
    the system causes violence in the system, and efficient morality is
    constrained also by what i called guidance of moral and is constrained
    by "security" that is part of the the essence of efficient morality that
    is reliability, this is why you are feeling that morality must be
    abstracted correctly, and abstraction is the act of abstracting also to
    the "essentials" or to the "priorities": if you want, so if i say to you
    that efficient morality is performance and reliability , that's
    like a necessary definition that approximate more correctly efficient
    morality , but to be more "precise" and more precise calculations like
    though it is scientific, and that's also the goal of wisdom ! we have
    to abstract efficiently ! so a good abstraction do dictats to us
    to include in morality what i called guidance of moral that is like
    happiness and tolerance that are parts of the "set" of our essence,
    because we are capable of knowing them and feeling them and measuring
    with them ! not only that but guidance of moral must be showed correctly
    in the definition of efficient morality, this guidance of moral shows us
    also the good way and permits us to "measure" more correctly and permits
    us to be more tolerant ! and guidance of moral is a light to our
    democracy ! this is part of the essence of relativeness that is the
    most important part of our essence that permits us to measure corruption
    of morality by relativeness to the essence of our humanity that is
    perfection and strongness ! and please read the rest to be better
    equipped and to understand better my thoughts:

    The essence of corruption of morality

    This is a good subject of philosophy, philosophy is like
    mathematics, and wisdom is like mathematics, because
    the goal of wisdom is to comprehend ! and to comprehend
    you have to constrain more by the essence of humanity,
    that means by perfection and strongness ! how are perfection and
    strongness useful ! survival is usefulness ! we can not separate
    the two ! it is a dictatorship that constrain democracy !
    it is as it dictates to democracy ! and we are noticing
    it and feeling it with our consciousness ! and we are
    feeling it with what i called guidance of moral that
    is like happiness and tolerance that are parts of the "set" of our
    essence, because we are capable of knowing them and feeling them and
    measuring with them, and how we must be careful to notice that
    the "application" of morality as an efficient morality is part
    of the essence of morality and this is the most important part
    that gives rise to a scientific discipline and a technical discipline,
    that's also "beautifulness" of our humanity, the essence of humanity is perfection and strongness that make us able to measure corruption !
    the essence of corruption is also "relativeness" that is being part
    of it and it is as if we say that such part is relative to such
    part ! "relativeness" also is our essence ! and it is one of the most
    important part ! how can we be lost without it ! because relativeness
    to efficient morality is the correct way, and efficient morality
    is performance and reliability, i mean that performance and reliability
    alone do model efficient morality as a whole, and i have proved it
    to you in my previous posts, so corruption of morality is also
    relativeness to performance and reliability, this is why you have seeing
    me saying on my previous posts the following:

    I have defined efficient morality as being: Performance and reliability.

    But is it a correct definition?

    Because morality is all about what is bad and what is good, so
    what is bad is like a bug that causes the system to be bad, so
    if it is bad, it is like a bug that makes the system not reliable, this
    is why i have said that efficient morality is Performance and reliability.

    Please read the rest of my post to understand better:

    I will get into political philosophy..

    Here is my new post about the essence of a group and how it's related
    to the general morality..

    I will first remember you about my last writing about the essence
    of humanity:

    And what is the essence of humanity ?

    This is a good question in political philosophy.

    When you will become more smart you will know how to answer this
    question, and when you will become smarter you will try to find fast the shortest path to the solution, so to be able to find the shortest path
    to the solution of the above question, you have to transform the
    question on a similar question, and the similar question is: what is the important ingredients that describe what is the essence of humanity? it
    is how you will answer the above question, so what is those important ingredients ?

    I think the ingredients are:

    Perfection and Strongness.

    The essence of humanity is that we are becoming more perfection and at
    the same time we are becoming more Strong and at the same time we are
    becoming more organized and less disorganized.


    This is the essence of humanity, we are becoming more perfection.


    And this brings also hope.


    I have explained that the essence of a human and the essence of humanity
    is perfection.

    Am i stupid to say that ?

    If you have noticed i have said that we can not content ourselves with "nothing", we must evolve from nothing to more perfection to better
    survive etc.

    So human is composed of body and culture or spirit or what's in the
    brain of a human, but the body was constrained by the constrains of
    nature to be more "perfection", this is why perfection is its essence
    also, and the body must organize from not moving into moving and that's "perfection" also, and the spirit of a human or culture of a human or
    what's in the brain of a human evolve from nothing to something better
    to be able to do something to survive etc. and this is
    what we call "perfection", so human being and humanity is constructed
    and guided by the essence of humanity that is perfection, and better we
    can say that the essence of human and humanity is perfection.

    Now here is my new post about the essence of a group and how it's
    related to the general morality:

    Now i have explained that the essence of humanity is "Perfection" and
    also Strongness, and perfection and strongness is also the essence of a
    group, because we are also grouping together into different groups to be
    more perfection and more strong, but this essence of humanity that is Perfection and strongness
    must adhere to the general morality that must be an efficient morality,
    but if it is not in accordance with the general morality, we must
    enforce also general morality by laws, it is why we are managing our
    societies by laws.

    But what is also an efficient morality ?

    About the essence of communism

    You have not to fear communism, because empirical moral does constrain
    it, it is like a general mathematical proof, communism must adhere
    to optimization , because optimization is efficient morality, and
    efficient morality is Liberty, and corruption of morality must
    be measured by optimization itself that knows how to be optimization,
    communism is finally being more conscious of itself, because
    it is also more conscious of empirical moral.

    What is the essence of philosophy ?

    It is a very important question:

    So we have to be smartness to answer this question:

    Efficient morality is optimization and it is Liberty.

    Philosophy is a magical word , like Liberty.

    It is a generalization, it is like a general mathematical proof,
    this is the essence of philosophy, philosophy must be efficient
    morality, because it is a generalization, the word Philosophy is like
    the King, it must adhere to the act of optimization, and optimization
    is performance and reliability, now the essence of philosophy is more
    clear and it shows that the essence of Beauty and the essence of
    Happiness are the same , they are generalizations that must
    take into account the guidance of moral and a priori pure
    moral and empirical moral, and corruption of morality is measured
    by optimization, and optimization must be an effort , because
    Liberty is: discipline, progress and stableness, so the definition of
    Liberty that is discipline and progress and stableness is a soft way
    that ensure more the effort to realize this goal of Liberty, thus this
    has to be enforced by the hard way too, that means by laws.

    I have defined efficient morality as being performance and reliability
    that includes security, so beauty is part of reliability because
    reliability is the quality of performing consistently well, and to
    perform consistently well, you have to be beauty and you have to be
    social etc. please read my following political philosophy to understand
    better my thoughts:

    About the essence of optimization

    I have defined optimization as being:

    Performance and reliability.

    But can we clear more that ?

    Efficiency is part of optimization, efficiency is: you have the
    ressources that is our universe(we are part of the universe) and our
    other universes, and you have to produce an output from this input that
    is our universe or universes that is performant, it is performance.

    But if you define optimization like just being performance, that's
    a dangerous definition that lacks abstraction.

    Please read all the following to understand better:


    What is the essence of organization ?

    Those are the questions that we ask in courses of philosophy.

    Now i have to be smartness and rationality and logic to answer this
    question. Smartness is an important requirement that fulfill this
    goal.

    And you have to learn how to think Sir and Madam..

    So how can we attack this problem ?

    When you start thinking it is like also abstracting to the essentials to
    be able to simplify our thinking..

    So this process of abstraction needs also my smartness to decompose efficiently...

    Smartness is also a fast process that finds fast the shortest path to
    the solution or that finds the solution to the problem..

    So my smartness will answer like this:

    Look at our essence, we are a composition of consciousness and physical
    body..

    But we can try to say that we are guided by the process of survival of fittest..

    But this is not good abstraction..

    We have to be smartness..

    So why do we need to organize ?

    You will say that we have to be organized because of the process
    survival of the fittest..

    But this is a narrow view..

    Because it is a definition that is pejorative and not efficient..

    Because of the following question:

    Why we need to survive better ?

    It is because of our weaknesses.

    But i say that it is still not a correct answer , because
    it is too much abstraction that lacks efficiency.

    Because our weaknesses need to be organized by optimization.

    This is the magical word, it is optimization.

    Why do we optimize ? to be more powerful and more reliability and
    correctness.

    You will ask a question such as:

    Is optimization: reliability and correctness ?


    My answer:

    When you are not reliable and/or correctness you are less
    efficient, so efficiency is also reliability and correctness.

    This is why i have abstracted the essence of organization to the process
    of optimization.

    But that's lacking Abstraction.

    Because we have to look at the composition of optimization.

    Optimization is performance and reliability.

    So that the essence of organization is the composition of optimization
    that is performance and reliability.

    So the essence of optimization is not only performance , but it is
    reliability.

    And that's also efficient morality, and efficient morality is Liberty
    and Liberty is efficient morality.

    So now my answer is not finished:

    Because the optimization is constrained..

    Because corruption of morality is related to optimization..

    So how can we measure corruption of morality ?

    What is corruption of morality ?

    This is an interesting subject..

    It's like abstracting, you have to decompose and compose..

    You can say for example what are the causes of corruption of morality?

    You can say what is the consequences of corruption ?

    You can define efficiently morality to be able to know about corruption.

    So if you define morality you will define it as a composition of:

    Guidance of moral, and a priori pure moral and empirical moral.

    And now you see that the difficulty is how to set the reference to be
    able to measure corruption of morality with it.

    What is the reference of morality ?

    The reference must be optimization that knows how to be optimization.

    I mean that optimization can not set itself as being performance alone.

    And optimization can not set itself to be extreme justice that lacks optimization, like ignoring the optimization by the "heuristic" of
    "tolerance" that optimizes the economic system and the social system.

    And optimization must be an effort to maintain stableness and
    reliability of the system, that means reliability of the system, this is related to security, and security is also related to compassion and love
    and respect, because neglecting compassion , love and respect do cause extremism and violence that hurt the system.

    How optimization must be this effort ? because discipline and progress
    are inherent to Liberty, so you have to enforce them efficiently and
    wisely by the hard way, that means by laws and by the soft way
    that i talked about..

    So all in all the schema seems to be more clear and seems to indicate
    to us more what is corruption of morality, and it indicate to us
    what is the essence of organization..


    Getting more rational...

    Today i will ask a question of: what is love ?

    And the answer must be more rational.

    So we have to use smartness..

    Like the theorems of Kurt Gödel, there is something that seems happening..

    If you say that there is still some suffering in your life..

    You can come to a deductive conclusion that it is not love.

    But if you choose a reference as being one person that is suffering more
    than you, you will conclude that your "some" suffering is considered to
    be part of good, and this good is part of love.

    So as you have noticed there seems like there is a contradiction in the system..

    But this is just our senses, my rationality says that if the reference
    is individual morality, so the person above will say that some suffering
    is not love.

    But if the reference is general morality of the society, you will say
    that this some suffering is considered to be part of good, so it is part
    of love.

    So this relativeness to the general reference that is general of
    morality of the society is a good measure i think.

    It is like when we are asking the questions of:

    What is the essence of corruption ? and how can we measure corruption ?

    I have said that optimization measures corruption of morality.

    How it can measure it?

    Optimization is performance and reliability, and Efficiency is part of optimization, efficiency is: you have the ressources that is our
    universe(we are part of the universe) and our other universes, and you
    have to produce an output from this input that is our universe or
    universes that is performant, it is performance, so it is related to
    the essence of quality, so today because of our own essence that
    knows also about quality, we are measuring corruption of morality
    by the level or degree of quality, that means by performance and
    reliability, and we are measuring craziness and foolishness by the level
    or degree of quality, that means by performance and reliability, so if
    the level or degree of quality is lower and not tolerable, we say that
    it is corruption of morality or it is craziness or foolishness.

    How can we measure the level and degree of quality ?

    It is like saying that such thing is relative to such thing, also it is
    a process that is dynamic, so if our civilization is at time t1 is
    more performant and more reliable, we say that this degree of more
    reliable and more performant is the level or degree of quality that
    measures corruption of morality. So optimization that is performance and reliability measures corruption of morality in a such way.

    I give you an example..

    If at time t1 our civilization has only one machine or robot, and this civilization and one robot or one machine are capable of being more
    performance and more reliability with this one robot or one machine, but
    they are doing less performance and less reliability, we call this
    corruption of morality.

    About violence

    If you are genetically more violent you can be blocked in a local
    maximum like in AI, so when a genetically violent person sees
    a person or persons or events that he doesn't like, he can keep
    fighting this person or persons or event even though he has or must
    go out of a local maximum and climb to global maximum like in AI,
    i mean the global maximum of the function that is survival.

    So we have to be careful with genetically violent persons.

    About our essence..

    Capitalism is defined by:

    Private ownership of the means of production, free market and
    competition between economic actors.

    But we have to enlarge our view, because capitalism is not
    the only power that governs us, there is many powers and counter-powers
    that govern us , and from empirical moral we can infer that
    capitalism is constrained also by the fact that you have to
    know how to "convince" people to not get into intolerable violence
    inside the society, so if for example you base your ideology only on
    economic profit, i think this is not acceptable for the people, so
    democracy will "constrain" capitalism to be more "reasonable", and we
    have to enforce morality with efficient laws, but morality is not
    something easy , because morality is not just a priori pure moral,
    morality is infered also from empirical moral that is also from powers
    and counter-powers, but we are more lucky today because empirical moral
    is not so bad, because i have said that: Past was the past, but today it
    is different, we are getting more quality and more world stability from
    also the powers and counter-powers, so we not just have governance
    and/or democracy that is also the power of people, but also we have the counter-power of the financial and banks institutions that have there
    rating methodology that take into account the Political Risk factor and
    the economic conditions, and we have the counter-power of the consumers confidence index that we have to higher locally and internationally,
    and we are aware also that like Fordism we have to not neglect to give
    the necessary wages to people around the world to be able for them to
    buy our products and services, and all this create more quality and more
    world stability because we have to optimize our economic systems and by
    being responsable by being also responsable governance.

    What is archaism in politics ?

    We have to get into political philosophy, what is that we call
    archaism in politics? i think that we have to be smart, we have
    to follow politics throughout history, before, in the past, the
    government that was doing politics was just a dictatorship of a King
    or a Sultan or something like that, but the problem with this "model" of dictatorship is that it is too rigid and too archaic and inefficient
    today , because efficiency dictates also to "decentralize"
    the governement, it is like an operating system that is more
    decentralized like Windows NT that was efficient, but OS/2 of IBM was
    too "monolithic", thus i think that the essence of "democracy" has
    brought a kind of efficiency of decentralization,
    the governement is not only Donald Trump , but it is the secret services
    and it is the Congress and it is also science and it's people etc. so
    the very essence of democracy is knowing how to balance those
    decentralized powers by being efficient, this is what lacks dictatorship.

    About nazism and neo-nazism

    Here comes again an interesting subject..

    We have to think neo-nazism from the view point of efficient morality
    that is performance and reliability.

    So i will start my logical proof:

    As i have said that the essence of civilization is:

    The act of maximizing the benefits or the advantages by optimization

    This is part of the set of "morality".

    But neo-nazism is not understanding correctly the essence of our
    "civilization"

    neo-nazism is saying for example that arabs are not as "beautiful" as
    white europeans and it starts to hate arabs and wants to forbid arab immigrants, but this is "inferior" thinking , because the reference of
    measure is "morality" that is performance and reliability, but this
    reference knows that our world is not an "ideal" "world", this is the
    main point, we have to be "pragmatic", so we have to "balance" correctly
    the advantages and the disadvantages, so our civilization
    is saying the "usefulness" or "utility" is important,
    so our civilization is bringing arab immigrants because
    of there "usefulness" for different jobs and or/and for low birth rate
    even though arabs are not as "beautiful" as white europeans, so we have
    to escape the inferior conception that wants to forbid arab immigrants,
    because today optimization does know better about low birth rate of
    white europeans and does know that arab immigrants are also "useful" to
    jobs and to low birth rate etc. and they are taking also into
    account security.

    Here is my new thoughts of today about philosophy..

    What i am doing is finding the essence of things like in philosophy
    and i am using the tool of logic that permits also to "measure"
    and to "calculate" precisely like in mathematics and it permits to
    reason better, so what is my new thoughts of today ? as you have noticed
    i have defined previously what is morality, it is like finding its
    "essence" that i have done in my previous post, now an important
    question is inferred from this act of thinking, is that what is
    the essence of our "civilization" ? finding its essence with more
    "precise" thinking is an act of "philosophy", so what is its essence ?
    i think its essence is coming from the fact that a process or a thing
    can have an advantage and a disadvantage, and the general "reference" is morality that is, by more expressiveness, "performance" and
    "reliability", or simply "reliability" that can model morality correctly
    as i have proved it in my previous post, so the essence of our
    civilization is the act of coordinating and organizing those advantages
    and disadvantages on each of us or on each thing or in each process to
    be capable of giving an efficient morality that has as an essence
    "performance" and "reliability", and as a validation of my model, you
    will notice that we are decentralizing "governance", and each of the decentralized parts of the governance are grouping the "advantages" and
    trying to minimize the disadvantages of each of us that do the
    governance , democracy is also the same , because democracy is a system
    that wants to escape a "local" maximum towards a global maximum
    like in artificial intelligence, and democracy is doing it by
    applying itself to selecting the best among the actors of
    politics etc. to govern us, this is the essence of civilization,
    is the act of maximizing the benefits or the advantages by optimization,
    as i have just explained to you, so hope you are understanding
    my new thoughts of today. And about what is the essence of morality,
    here is again my own post that speaks about it ( i have corrected few
    typos in it):

    What is it to be morality ?

    This is the most important part of our humanity !

    I have proved before that performance is inherent to morality,
    and i have showed also that my definition, and that i have

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