• Re: Transvestite Brittney Griner's Prolonged Detention Isn't Racism, Bu

    From 13%@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Jul 24 11:22:12 2022
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    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    In article <GmtYJ.159384$Gojc.11142@fx99.iad>
    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Trump says that it is justly deserved because Californians vote Democrat.

    Adam's apple, no tits, mustache wax rip.

    <https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/griner-
    1200x675.jpeg>

    Brittney Griner and other Americans abroad need to understand
    they will be held accountable for breaking foreign laws.

    As a consular officer overseas, I met dozens of Brittney Griners
    — American citizens, from all walks of life, who find themselves
    on the wrong end of a foreign legal system far from home.

    Despite what Phoenix Mercury coach Vanessa Nygaard might claim,
    Griner’s continued detention in Russia has nothing to do with a
    lack of U.S. government interest in bringing her home. It makes
    no difference that she’s a woman, black, or gay, or even that
    she’s one of the few WNBA players who can dunk. It also doesn’t
    matter for whom she voted.

    The fact of the matter is: There are limits to what American
    diplomacy can do for U.S. citizens who travel to foreign
    countries and run afoul of their laws.

    When arrested abroad, an American’s first call is often to
    consular officers. Their expectations tend to be out of line
    with what our diplomats are allowed or supposed to do to help
    them.

    The rules governing diplomatic intervention are spelled out in
    the Foreign Affairs Manual, aka “the FAM,” which is the
    operational bible for U.S. consular officers at more than 300
    foreign posts from Albania to Zambia. According to the FAM,
    consular officers should visit the arrested American citizen “as
    soon as possible” after learning of the arrest.

    That visit is to deliver the hard truth: You’re not in Kansas
    anymore. “Give the arrestee a realistic and positive
    understanding of your interest in and responsibility for a U.S.
    citizen or national in this situation,” officers are told, and
    “make clear to the prisoner that the judicial system and
    personal rights he or she enjoyed in the United States do not
    apply abroad.”

    The FAM advises that “it is only fair to curb the prisoner’s
    expectations that consular assistance will result in
    extraordinary intervention or miraculous remedies.”

    So what can embassy officers do?

    They will visit you shortly after being informed of your arrest
    and then every few months during your trial. They will try to
    prevent you from being abused in custody. They will help you
    find a lawyer (at your expense). And they will monitor the
    progress of your case, so the host government knows Uncle Sam is
    watching. In many countries, this is an incentive for them to
    carry out a fair process. In Russia, North Korea, or Yemen? Not
    so much.

    Over the span of nearly 25 years, I visited or helped a variety
    of Americans in jail for crimes ranging from drugs to theft to
    assault. Here are some points I’d advise travelers to keep in
    mind.

    First, remember it’s their country, their rules. In Thailand,
    Americans can “expect long jail sentences under harsh
    conditions, heavy fines, or even execution for possessing,
    using, or trafficking in illegal drugs.“ Visitors there should
    respect religious mores and never insult the king. When in
    doubt, err on the side of caution: One American was even
    arrested for posting a bad review of a Thai hotel.

    In Dubai last year, a group of foreign models got six months in
    jail for posing nude for photos on a hotel balcony. In Singapore
    in the 1990s, American high-schooler Michael Fay was sentenced
    to six strokes of a cane for vandalizing cars.

    Second, if you are at risk of extradition or worse by a foreign
    country, think before going somewhere they might be able to get
    you. After all, some rulers have long arms. We’ve seen Russian
    exiles poisoned in Britain. Rwandans opposed to the government
    or connected with the genocide have died in mysterious
    circumstances in various countries, and Saudi journalist Jamal
    Khashoggi was murdered inside a Saudi consulate in Turkey in
    2018.

    Third, if you are going overseas to fight for another country,
    you are on your own. Missing American veteran Grady Kurpasi may
    have been killed by Russians while he was with Ukrainian forces
    a few months ago. According to the Washington Post, his family
    “accused the Biden administration of inaction” on his behalf,
    but in truth, there is little the U.S. can do to aid a private
    citizen acting as a mercenary or volunteer in a war between two
    foreign powers.

    The Geneva Convention extends prisoner of war status to
    volunteers in certain conditions, but the Russians have made it
    clear that they will not give those protections to Americans
    fighting in Ukraine. Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces are also
    prosecuting Russian soldiers for war crimes in real time. Due,
    let alone fair, process is a rare thing in wartime.

    At the time of her arrest, Griner was in Russia playing her
    seventh season with the Russian women’s team UMMC Ekaterinburg.
    She has gone well above the consular level, writing to President
    Biden and pleading for his help.

    In an interview with CBS News, Vice President Harris hinted that
    something was “happening behind the scenes.” That may be related
    to reports that former governor and Clinton appointee turned ace hostage-releaser Bill Richardson might be dispatched to
    negotiate a deal with the Russians.

    Harris also implied that Griner was being “unlawfully detained.”
    The part of the FAM that deals with “wrongful arrests” is for
    government eyes only. This much I can say: While it contains
    some additional diplomatic tools, it has no magic bullets.

    The State Department has an office that deals with Americans
    “wrongfully detained,” such as for political reasons. But Griner
    pled guilty to the charge (of bringing in a minuscule amount of
    hashish oil in a vape cartridge) and has seemingly been treated
    in accordance with Russian law, harsh though it is.

    In Russia, judges decide all but the most serious cases, and the
    acquittal rate is under 1 percent. Unfortunately for Griner, she
    picked the wrong time and the wrong place to carry that tiny
    amount of cannabis oil. She was arrested on Feb. 17, and Russia
    invaded Ukraine a week later, making Griner an accidental chip
    in a diplomatic “great game.” Because of that, she may face more
    time in what the State Department’s Human Rights Report calls
    “often harsh and life threatening” Russian prison conditions.

    The hard truth is that Americans overseas are subject to foreign
    laws, just like foreigners are over here. Americans arrested and
    accused of crimes in other countries have to work through those
    legal systems the best they can. Short of sending SEAL Team Six,
    arranging a prisoner exchange, or cutting a secret deal giving
    the other country something it wants, there is little a U.S.
    president can do in cases where a foreign government isn’t
    amenable to friendly persuasion.

    In Michael Fay’s case, then-president Clinton appealed to the
    Singapore government — a friendly one — but only managed to
    reduce the sentence by two strokes of the cane. More hopefully,
    Richardson has a good track record of negotiating the release of
    Americans held in unfriendly places like Iran, North Korea, and
    Russia. If he fails, there’s always the Rev. Al Sharpton, who
    plans a pastoral visit to Griner soon.

    For most Americans, especially those with no fame or
    connections, there’s no way to completely avoid the risk of
    being arrested overseas, sometimes on spurious charges. Still,
    the more you can follow the letter of a foreign country’s law —
    particularly with regard to drugs and public behavior — the
    safer you’ll be.

    A former State Department official, Simon Hankinson is a senior
    research fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Davis Institute for
    National Security and Foreign Affairs.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/21/brittney-griners-prolonged- detention-isnt-racism-but-the-limits-of-american-diplomacy/

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 24 11:03:55 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.crime, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 7/24/22 5:22 AM, 13% wrote:
    In article <GmtYJ.159384$Gojc.11142@fx99.iad>
    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Trump says that it is justly deserved because Californians vote Democrat.

    Adam's apple, no tits, mustache wax rip.

    <https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/griner-
    1200x675.jpeg>

    Brittney Griner and other Americans abroad need to understand
    they will be held accountable for breaking foreign laws.

    As a consular officer overseas, I met dozens of Brittney Griners
    — American citizens, from all walks of life, who find themselves
    on the wrong end of a foreign legal system far from home.

    Despite what Phoenix Mercury coach Vanessa Nygaard might claim,
    Griner’s continued detention in Russia has nothing to do with a
    lack of U.S. government interest in bringing her home. It makes
    no difference that she’s a woman, black, or gay, or even that
    she’s one of the few WNBA players who can dunk. It also doesn’t
    matter for whom she voted.

    The fact of the matter is: There are limits to what American
    diplomacy can do for U.S. citizens who travel to foreign
    countries and run afoul of their laws.

    When arrested abroad, an American’s first call is often to
    consular officers. Their expectations tend to be out of line
    with what our diplomats are allowed or supposed to do to help
    them.

    The rules governing diplomatic intervention are spelled out in
    the Foreign Affairs Manual, aka “the FAM,” which is the
    operational bible for U.S. consular officers at more than 300
    foreign posts from Albania to Zambia. According to the FAM,
    consular officers should visit the arrested American citizen “as
    soon as possible” after learning of the arrest.

    That visit is to deliver the hard truth: You’re not in Kansas
    anymore. “Give the arrestee a realistic and positive
    understanding of your interest in and responsibility for a U.S.
    citizen or national in this situation,” officers are told, and
    “make clear to the prisoner that the judicial system and
    personal rights he or she enjoyed in the United States do not
    apply abroad.”

    The FAM advises that “it is only fair to curb the prisoner’s
    expectations that consular assistance will result in
    extraordinary intervention or miraculous remedies.”

    So what can embassy officers do?

    They will visit you shortly after being informed of your arrest
    and then every few months during your trial. They will try to
    prevent you from being abused in custody. They will help you
    find a lawyer (at your expense). And they will monitor the
    progress of your case, so the host government knows Uncle Sam is
    watching. In many countries, this is an incentive for them to
    carry out a fair process. In Russia, North Korea, or Yemen? Not
    so much.

    Over the span of nearly 25 years, I visited or helped a variety
    of Americans in jail for crimes ranging from drugs to theft to
    assault. Here are some points I’d advise travelers to keep in
    mind.

    First, remember it’s their country, their rules. In Thailand,
    Americans can “expect long jail sentences under harsh
    conditions, heavy fines, or even execution for possessing,
    using, or trafficking in illegal drugs.“ Visitors there should
    respect religious mores and never insult the king. When in
    doubt, err on the side of caution: One American was even
    arrested for posting a bad review of a Thai hotel.

    In Dubai last year, a group of foreign models got six months in
    jail for posing nude for photos on a hotel balcony. In Singapore
    in the 1990s, American high-schooler Michael Fay was sentenced
    to six strokes of a cane for vandalizing cars.

    Second, if you are at risk of extradition or worse by a foreign
    country, think before going somewhere they might be able to get
    you. After all, some rulers have long arms. We’ve seen Russian
    exiles poisoned in Britain. Rwandans opposed to the government
    or connected with the genocide have died in mysterious
    circumstances in various countries, and Saudi journalist Jamal
    Khashoggi was murdered inside a Saudi consulate in Turkey in
    2018.

    Third, if you are going overseas to fight for another country,
    you are on your own. Missing American veteran Grady Kurpasi may
    have been killed by Russians while he was with Ukrainian forces
    a few months ago. According to the Washington Post, his family
    “accused the Biden administration of inaction” on his behalf,
    but in truth, there is little the U.S. can do to aid a private
    citizen acting as a mercenary or volunteer in a war between two
    foreign powers.

    The Geneva Convention extends prisoner of war status to
    volunteers in certain conditions, but the Russians have made it
    clear that they will not give those protections to Americans
    fighting in Ukraine. Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces are also
    prosecuting Russian soldiers for war crimes in real time. Due,
    let alone fair, process is a rare thing in wartime.

    At the time of her arrest, Griner was in Russia playing her
    seventh season with the Russian women’s team UMMC Ekaterinburg.
    She has gone well above the consular level, writing to President
    Biden and pleading for his help.

    In an interview with CBS News, Vice President Harris hinted that
    something was “happening behind the scenes.” That may be related
    to reports that former governor and Clinton appointee turned ace hostage-releaser Bill Richardson might be dispatched to
    negotiate a deal with the Russians.

    Harris also implied that Griner was being “unlawfully detained.”
    The part of the FAM that deals with “wrongful arrests” is for
    government eyes only. This much I can say: While it contains
    some additional diplomatic tools, it has no magic bullets.

    The State Department has an office that deals with Americans
    “wrongfully detained,” such as for political reasons. But Griner
    pled guilty to the charge (of bringing in a minuscule amount of
    hashish oil in a vape cartridge) and has seemingly been treated
    in accordance with Russian law, harsh though it is.

    In Russia, judges decide all but the most serious cases, and the
    acquittal rate is under 1 percent. Unfortunately for Griner, she
    picked the wrong time and the wrong place to carry that tiny
    amount of cannabis oil. She was arrested on Feb. 17, and Russia
    invaded Ukraine a week later, making Griner an accidental chip
    in a diplomatic “great game.” Because of that, she may face more
    time in what the State Department’s Human Rights Report calls
    “often harsh and life threatening” Russian prison conditions.

    The hard truth is that Americans overseas are subject to foreign
    laws, just like foreigners are over here. Americans arrested and
    accused of crimes in other countries have to work through those
    legal systems the best they can. Short of sending SEAL Team Six,
    arranging a prisoner exchange, or cutting a secret deal giving
    the other country something it wants, there is little a U.S.
    president can do in cases where a foreign government isn’t
    amenable to friendly persuasion.

    In Michael Fay’s case, then-president Clinton appealed to the
    Singapore government — a friendly one — but only managed to
    reduce the sentence by two strokes of the cane. More hopefully,
    Richardson has a good track record of negotiating the release of
    Americans held in unfriendly places like Iran, North Korea, and
    Russia. If he fails, there’s always the Rev. Al Sharpton, who
    plans a pastoral visit to Griner soon.

    For most Americans, especially those with no fame or
    connections, there’s no way to completely avoid the risk of
    being arrested overseas, sometimes on spurious charges. Still,
    the more you can follow the letter of a foreign country’s law — particularly with regard to drugs and public behavior — the
    safer you’ll be.

    A former State Department official, Simon Hankinson is a senior
    research fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Davis Institute for
    National Security and Foreign Affairs.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/21/brittney-griners-prolonged- detention-isnt-racism-but-the-limits-of-american-diplomacy/


    It's the LIMITATAION of DEMOCRATS diplomacy.


    Corruption and lies can only carry you so far, but once that runs out
    you have nothing to fall back on.




    --
    -That's karma-

    The result is DEMOCRATS lies about history and reality to themselves and
    others means their attempts to figure-out what's wrong is an exercise in futility, because what they think they know they really don't know, and
    fixing problems without the truth... becomes a fools errand.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to BeamMeUpScotty on Sun Jul 24 13:00:05 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.crime, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    BeamMeUpScotty <NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov> wrote in news:vbdDK.534393$70j.155315@fx16.iad:



    Corruption and lies can only carry you so far, but once that runs out
    you have nothing to fall back on.



    Such explains Republicans being
    to sour on Trump and turn to other
    Republicans for leadership.

    Even THEY grow weary of the
    constant demand for money, the
    constant pity-fest, his attempts
    to sway their local elections.

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