• Re: CNN CAUGHT LYING AGAIN! Fact check: Comparison of school shootings

    From Obama has monkeypox@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 22 03:50:50 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns, alt.politics.homosexuality XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <t1i7t6$3258u$131@news.freedyn.de>
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    The claim: The US has had 288 school shootings while other
    countries had two or less
    A May 24 massacre at a Texas elementary school that left 19
    children and two teachers dead has reignited the debate over
    guns and focused attention on the uniquely high rate of school
    shootings in the United States.

    “America, you are broken,” reads the caption of a May 25
    Facebook post that was shared more than 300 times in less than a
    day. The post includes a breakdown of school shootings by
    country, attributing 288 to the U.S., two to France and Canada,
    one to Germany, China and Russia and zero to several countries
    including the United Kingdom and Australia.

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    the day on our latest debunks

    The U.S. does have significantly more school shootings than
    other countries, but the data included in the post actually
    understates the scope of the problem in the U.S. The tallies
    reflect one calculation of shootings from 2009 to 2018, so they
    don't account for U.S. shootings in the last four years or
    before 2009. Some broader research shows counts nearly 10 times
    higher.

    USA TODAY reached out to the user who shared the claim for
    comment.

    Claim uses 2018 data, ignore other statistics
    The statistics in the post line up with a May 2018 CNN article
    about school shootings since 2009. The network analyzed news
    reports to compile data on incidents on school grounds in which
    at least one person was shot other than the shooter.

    But counts of the total number of school shootings in the U.S
    vary widely based on methodology and the time period studied.
    For example, the K-12 School Shooting Database from the Naval
    Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and Security
    includes 2,012 school shootings in the U.S. dating back to 1970.

    The CNN research identified 288 school shootings between January
    2009 and May 2018 in the U.S. By comparison, CNN found Canada
    and France each had two, Germany had one, and Japan, Italy and
    the United Kingdom had none. Based on those numbers, the U.S.
    had 57 times more school shootings in that time period than the
    other G7 countries combined.

    The story also included data from countries with a higher number
    of school shootings that were not mentioned in the Facebook
    post. Mexico, for example, had eight school shootings in the
    same period, and South Africa had six, according to CNN. India
    had five while Pakistan and Nigeria each had four. But those
    were not mentioned in the post.

    School shootings have continued to plague the U.S. in the years
    since the article was published.

    Events missing from this tally include a shooting at the
    University of North Carolina at Charlotte on April 30, 2019,
    that killed two people and injured four others. One week later,
    a shooting at a Denver-area STEM school killed one student and
    injured eight others.

    Two people were killed and three others were injured in a 16-
    second rampage at a high school in Santa Clarita, California, on
    Nov. 14, 2019.

    Two sisters were fatally shot and a 2-year-old was hurt in a
    Feb. 3, 2020, shooting at Texas A&M University-Commerce.

    More recently, four students were killed and seven others were
    injured in a shooting at a Michigan high school on Nov. 30,
    2021. The May 24 shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is the deadliest
    shooting at a U.S. elementary school since the 2012 shooting at
    Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that left 26 dead.

    More: It's not just Uvalde, Texas — gunfire on school grounds is
    at historic high in the US

    Our rating: Missing context
    Based on our research, we rate MISSING CONTEXT the claim that
    the U.S. has had 288 school shootings while other countries two
    or less. The data cited here tallies only shootings from 2009 to
    2018, so it doesn't include a vast number of shootings before
    and after that timeframe. One database shows that pushes the
    tally past 2,000 school shootings in the U.S.

    Our fact-check sources:
    Naval Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and
    Security, accessed May 26, K-12 School Shooting Database
    USA TODAY, May 25, 'There are no words': Families mourn as names
    of Texas school shooting victims begin to emerge
    USA TODAY, May 24, Bloodshed since Sandy Hook: Uvalde school
    shooting among deadliest school attacks in past 10 years
    USA TODAY, Dec. 2, 2021, Charges filed in Michigan school
    shooting that left 4 dead; suspect's 'concerning behavior' led
    school to call parents Tuesday, sheriff says
    USA TODAY, Feb. 5, 2020, 'Why is there so much violence': Texas
    university grapples with two deadly shootings in three months
    USA TODAY, Nov. 14, 2019, A day of 'horror' at Santa Clarita
    high school: 2 dead after student shoots 5, then himself
    USA TODAY, May 7, 2019, What we know about the Highlands Ranch
    STEM school shooting in Colorado
    USA TODAY, May 1, 2019, University of North Carolina at
    Charlotte shooting: What We Know Now
    CNN, May 21, 2018, The US has had 57 times as many school
    shootings as the other major industrialized nations combined
    Thank you for supporting our journalism. You can subscribe to
    our print edition, ad-free app or electronic newspaper replica
    here.

    Our fact-check work is supported in part by a grant from
    Facebook.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/05/26/fact- check-school-shootings-far-more-common-us-than-
    elsewhere/9944841002/

    Kill those who misuse guns and televise it.

    Kill anyone else who objects, televise that too.

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  • From 25.BX945@21:1/5 to Obama has monkeypox on Wed Jun 22 01:19:05 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/21/22 9:50 PM, Obama has monkeypox wrote:
    In article <t1i7t6$3258u$131@news.freedyn.de>
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    The claim: The US has had 288 school shootings while other
    countries had two or less
    A May 24 massacre at a Texas elementary school that left 19
    children and two teachers dead has reignited the debate over
    guns and focused attention on the uniquely high rate of school
    shootings in the United States.

    “America, you are broken,” reads the caption of a May 25
    Facebook post that was shared more than 300 times in less than a
    day. The post includes a breakdown of school shootings by
    country, attributing 288 to the U.S., two to France and Canada,
    one to Germany, China and Russia and zero to several countries
    including the United Kingdom and Australia.

    Follow us on Facebook! Like our page to get updates throughout
    the day on our latest debunks

    The U.S. does have significantly more school shootings than
    other countries, but the data included in the post actually
    understates the scope of the problem in the U.S. The tallies
    reflect one calculation of shootings from 2009 to 2018, so they
    don't account for U.S. shootings in the last four years or
    before 2009. Some broader research shows counts nearly 10 times
    higher.

    USA TODAY reached out to the user who shared the claim for
    comment.

    Claim uses 2018 data, ignore other statistics
    The statistics in the post line up with a May 2018 CNN article
    about school shootings since 2009. The network analyzed news
    reports to compile data on incidents on school grounds in which
    at least one person was shot other than the shooter.

    But counts of the total number of school shootings in the U.S
    vary widely based on methodology and the time period studied.
    For example, the K-12 School Shooting Database from the Naval
    Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and Security
    includes 2,012 school shootings in the U.S. dating back to 1970.

    The CNN research identified 288 school shootings between January
    2009 and May 2018 in the U.S. By comparison, CNN found Canada
    and France each had two, Germany had one, and Japan, Italy and
    the United Kingdom had none. Based on those numbers, the U.S.
    had 57 times more school shootings in that time period than the
    other G7 countries combined.

    The story also included data from countries with a higher number
    of school shootings that were not mentioned in the Facebook
    post. Mexico, for example, had eight school shootings in the
    same period, and South Africa had six, according to CNN. India
    had five while Pakistan and Nigeria each had four. But those
    were not mentioned in the post.

    School shootings have continued to plague the U.S. in the years
    since the article was published.

    Events missing from this tally include a shooting at the
    University of North Carolina at Charlotte on April 30, 2019,
    that killed two people and injured four others. One week later,
    a shooting at a Denver-area STEM school killed one student and
    injured eight others.

    Two people were killed and three others were injured in a 16-
    second rampage at a high school in Santa Clarita, California, on
    Nov. 14, 2019.

    Two sisters were fatally shot and a 2-year-old was hurt in a
    Feb. 3, 2020, shooting at Texas A&M University-Commerce.

    More recently, four students were killed and seven others were
    injured in a shooting at a Michigan high school on Nov. 30,
    2021. The May 24 shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is the deadliest
    shooting at a U.S. elementary school since the 2012 shooting at
    Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that left 26 dead.

    More: It's not just Uvalde, Texas — gunfire on school grounds is
    at historic high in the US

    Our rating: Missing context
    Based on our research, we rate MISSING CONTEXT the claim that
    the U.S. has had 288 school shootings while other countries two
    or less. The data cited here tallies only shootings from 2009 to
    2018, so it doesn't include a vast number of shootings before
    and after that timeframe. One database shows that pushes the
    tally past 2,000 school shootings in the U.S.

    Our fact-check sources:
    Naval Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and
    Security, accessed May 26, K-12 School Shooting Database
    USA TODAY, May 25, 'There are no words': Families mourn as names
    of Texas school shooting victims begin to emerge
    USA TODAY, May 24, Bloodshed since Sandy Hook: Uvalde school
    shooting among deadliest school attacks in past 10 years
    USA TODAY, Dec. 2, 2021, Charges filed in Michigan school
    shooting that left 4 dead; suspect's 'concerning behavior' led
    school to call parents Tuesday, sheriff says
    USA TODAY, Feb. 5, 2020, 'Why is there so much violence': Texas
    university grapples with two deadly shootings in three months
    USA TODAY, Nov. 14, 2019, A day of 'horror' at Santa Clarita
    high school: 2 dead after student shoots 5, then himself
    USA TODAY, May 7, 2019, What we know about the Highlands Ranch
    STEM school shooting in Colorado
    USA TODAY, May 1, 2019, University of North Carolina at
    Charlotte shooting: What We Know Now
    CNN, May 21, 2018, The US has had 57 times as many school
    shootings as the other major industrialized nations combined
    Thank you for supporting our journalism. You can subscribe to
    our print edition, ad-free app or electronic newspaper replica
    here.

    Our fact-check work is supported in part by a grant from
    Facebook.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/05/26/fact- check-school-shootings-far-more-common-us-than-
    elsewhere/9944841002/

    Kill those who misuse guns and televise it.

    Kill anyone else who objects, televise that too.


    Gee ... what a commie bastard you are !

    I'd suggest the opposite tact - and at this
    point most of America agrees.

    Anyway ... *plonk* ... you're not worth
    the bandwidth

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  • From Rusty Bowers@21:1/5 to 25BZ495@nada.net on Wed Jun 22 10:28:42 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <KKmdncxpZaDUOy__nZ2dnUU7-cednZ2d@earthlink.com>
    "25.BX945" <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote:

    On 6/21/22 9:50 PM, Obama has monkeypox wrote:
    In article <t1i7t6$3258u$131@news.freedyn.de>
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    The claim: The US has had 288 school shootings while other
    countries had two or less
    A May 24 massacre at a Texas elementary school that left 19
    children and two teachers dead has reignited the debate over
    guns and focused attention on the uniquely high rate of school
    shootings in the United States.

    “America, you are broken,” reads the caption of a May 25
    Facebook post that was shared more than 300 times in less than a
    day. The post includes a breakdown of school shootings by
    country, attributing 288 to the U.S., two to France and Canada,
    one to Germany, China and Russia and zero to several countries
    including the United Kingdom and Australia.

    Follow us on Facebook! Like our page to get updates throughout
    the day on our latest debunks

    The U.S. does have significantly more school shootings than
    other countries, but the data included in the post actually
    understates the scope of the problem in the U.S. The tallies
    reflect one calculation of shootings from 2009 to 2018, so they
    don't account for U.S. shootings in the last four years or
    before 2009. Some broader research shows counts nearly 10 times
    higher.

    USA TODAY reached out to the user who shared the claim for
    comment.

    Claim uses 2018 data, ignore other statistics
    The statistics in the post line up with a May 2018 CNN article
    about school shootings since 2009. The network analyzed news
    reports to compile data on incidents on school grounds in which
    at least one person was shot other than the shooter.

    But counts of the total number of school shootings in the U.S
    vary widely based on methodology and the time period studied.
    For example, the K-12 School Shooting Database from the Naval
    Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and Security
    includes 2,012 school shootings in the U.S. dating back to 1970.

    The CNN research identified 288 school shootings between January
    2009 and May 2018 in the U.S. By comparison, CNN found Canada
    and France each had two, Germany had one, and Japan, Italy and
    the United Kingdom had none. Based on those numbers, the U.S.
    had 57 times more school shootings in that time period than the
    other G7 countries combined.

    The story also included data from countries with a higher number
    of school shootings that were not mentioned in the Facebook
    post. Mexico, for example, had eight school shootings in the
    same period, and South Africa had six, according to CNN. India
    had five while Pakistan and Nigeria each had four. But those
    were not mentioned in the post.

    School shootings have continued to plague the U.S. in the years
    since the article was published.

    Events missing from this tally include a shooting at the
    University of North Carolina at Charlotte on April 30, 2019,
    that killed two people and injured four others. One week later,
    a shooting at a Denver-area STEM school killed one student and
    injured eight others.

    Two people were killed and three others were injured in a 16-
    second rampage at a high school in Santa Clarita, California, on
    Nov. 14, 2019.

    Two sisters were fatally shot and a 2-year-old was hurt in a
    Feb. 3, 2020, shooting at Texas A&M University-Commerce.

    More recently, four students were killed and seven others were
    injured in a shooting at a Michigan high school on Nov. 30,
    2021. The May 24 shooting in Uvalde, Texas, is the deadliest
    shooting at a U.S. elementary school since the 2012 shooting at
    Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that left 26 dead.

    More: It's not just Uvalde, Texas — gunfire on school grounds is
    at historic high in the US

    Our rating: Missing context
    Based on our research, we rate MISSING CONTEXT the claim that
    the U.S. has had 288 school shootings while other countries two
    or less. The data cited here tallies only shootings from 2009 to
    2018, so it doesn't include a vast number of shootings before
    and after that timeframe. One database shows that pushes the
    tally past 2,000 school shootings in the U.S.

    Our fact-check sources:
    Naval Postgraduate School’s Center for Homeland Defense and
    Security, accessed May 26, K-12 School Shooting Database
    USA TODAY, May 25, 'There are no words': Families mourn as names
    of Texas school shooting victims begin to emerge
    USA TODAY, May 24, Bloodshed since Sandy Hook: Uvalde school
    shooting among deadliest school attacks in past 10 years
    USA TODAY, Dec. 2, 2021, Charges filed in Michigan school
    shooting that left 4 dead; suspect's 'concerning behavior' led
    school to call parents Tuesday, sheriff says
    USA TODAY, Feb. 5, 2020, 'Why is there so much violence': Texas
    university grapples with two deadly shootings in three months
    USA TODAY, Nov. 14, 2019, A day of 'horror' at Santa Clarita
    high school: 2 dead after student shoots 5, then himself
    USA TODAY, May 7, 2019, What we know about the Highlands Ranch
    STEM school shooting in Colorado
    USA TODAY, May 1, 2019, University of North Carolina at
    Charlotte shooting: What We Know Now
    CNN, May 21, 2018, The US has had 57 times as many school
    shootings as the other major industrialized nations combined
    Thank you for supporting our journalism. You can subscribe to
    our print edition, ad-free app or electronic newspaper replica
    here.

    Our fact-check work is supported in part by a grant from
    Facebook.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/05/26/fact- check-school-shootings-far-more-common-us-than-
    elsewhere/9944841002/

    Kill those who misuse guns and televise it.

    Kill anyone else who objects, televise that too.


    Gee ... what a commie bastard you are !

    I'd suggest the opposite tact - and at this
    point most of America agrees.

    Anyway ... *plonk* ... you're not worth
    the bandwidth

    Did you fuck any new sheep yet today?

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to 25BZ495@nada.net on Wed Jun 22 06:11:24 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <KKmdncxpZaDUOy__nZ2dnUU7-cednZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    "25.BX945" <25BZ495@nada.net> wrote:

    I'd suggest the opposite [tack] - and at this

    Tack. Ask a sailor.

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ Discordia: not just a religion but also a parody. This post / \
    I am an Andrea Chen sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to fuckbidencednZ2d@earthlink.com on Wed Jun 22 18:23:47 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 10:28:42 +0200 (CEST), "Rusty Bowers" <fuckbidencednZ2d@earthlink.com> wrote:

    Did you fuck any new sheep yet today?

    Not since they started warning each other about him.

    Swill
    --
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    involving Hillary that have never amounted to
    anything goes back for decades. The rightwing fear
    of her just goes on and on............
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