• Re: Police say tourist filmed allegedly carving ?Ivan+Hayley? on Rome?s

    From wankers@21:1/5 to Schadenfreude on Sat Jul 1 08:37:15 2023
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    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus_schadenfreude@null.net> wrote in news:sj5898$t7o$38@news.dns-netz.com:

    Give him a chopadictomy. Make his girlfriend eat it.

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum – and
    grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.

    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.

    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on a brick
    wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.

    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last year,
    some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the suspect isn’t
    from the US – he’s from the UK.

    Culture Minister Gennaro Sangiuliano tweeted Thursday that the
    Carabinieri, a military police force, had “identified the person presumed
    to be responsible for the uncivilized and absurd act committed at the Colosseum.”

    “An act that offended everyone across the globe who appreciate the value
    of archaeology, of monuments and of history,” he added.

    His tweet confirmed that “Ivan and Hayley” are thought to be the names of
    the tourist and his girlfriend, who was filmed watching on as he carved
    their names.

    In a second tweet, Sangiuliano suggested that the case will go to trial.

    Threat of prison
    “I hope that justice will take its course, applying the law rigorously,”
    he wrote.

    “If it comes to trial, the Ministry of Culture will appear as a
    plaintiff.”


    If convicted of a crime, the man could face a fine of at least 15,000
    euros ($16,360) or up to five years in prison, according to Italian news
    agency Ansa.

    The Piazza Venezia branch of the Carabinieri released a statement to CNN confirming that the suspect had been traced, and the couple are believed
    to be from the UK.

    Police “identified the main suspect through traditional investigations and photographic comparison,” they wrote.

    “The carabinieri have confirmed that that it is a couple, a man and a
    woman, resident in England.

    “It should be noted that proceedings are at the preliminary investigation
    stage so the suspect must be considered innocent until any final [court] ruling.”

    Sangiuliano added in a statement that a government bill that would “make
    those who outrage our heritage answer for it personally” is currently
    passing through parliament. The bill would hold vandals responsible
    “including in terms of assets,” he said.

    “People who cause damage must pay.”

    Tourists vandalizing the Colosseum is sadly nothing new. In 2020, an Irish tourist was reported to the police for allegedly carving his initials into
    a wall.

    Last August, an American couple were caught carving their initials into
    the Arch of Augustus, a 2,000-year-old monument beside the Colosseum.

    CNN’s Sharon Braithwaite contributed to this story.

    https://www.cnn.com/travel/rome-colosseum-ivan-hayley-graffiti- identified/index.html

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to wankers on Sat Jul 1 11:34:20 2023
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    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus_schadenfreude@null.net> wrote:

    CNN
    —
    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum – and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.

    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.

    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.

    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been
    described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

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  • From Remi@21:1/5 to JNugent on Sat Jul 1 19:13:25 2023
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    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote in
    news:kgadpcF9p3jU3@mid.individual.net:

    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus_schadenfreude@null.net> wrote:

    CNN
    —
    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum –
    and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.

    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.

    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on
    a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has
    been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.

    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last
    year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the
    suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

    Regardless of where he is from, he's a vandal and should spend a
    year cleaning public urinals in Italy as penance. He can sleep in jail at night.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Remi on Sun Jul 2 01:17:06 2023
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    On 01/07/2023 08:13 pm, Remi wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus_schadenfreude@null.net> wrote:

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum –
    and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.
    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.
    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on
    a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has
    been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.
    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last
    year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the
    suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been
    described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

    Regardless of where he is from, he's a vandal and should spend a
    year cleaning public urinals in Italy as penance. He can sleep in jail at night.

    Only a year?

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 17 11:13:32 2023
    Am 02/07/2023 um 00:17 schrieb JNugent:
    On 01/07/2023 08:13 pm, Remi wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 01/07/2023 07:37 am, wankers wrote:
    Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus_schadenfreude@null.net> wrote:

    CNN

    He caused shockwaves around the world when he was filmed apparently
    carving his name into a wall of Rome’s 2,000-year-old Colosseum –
    and grinning when he realized he was caught on camera.
    Now, he’s likely to be in shock himself.
    The visitor who this week allegedly scratched “Ivan+Hayley 23” on
    a brick wall of one of the world’s most precious buildings, has >>>> been identified, according to Italy’s culture minister.
    And after a spate of Americans trashing Italian heritage sites last
    year, some readers will be relieved to know that this time, the
    suspect isn’t from the US – he’s from the UK.

    My understanding, from news reports, is that "Ivan" is far from being
    "from the UK" in anything except a recent travels sense. He has been
    described, indeed, as *Bulgarian*.

    The name carved into the Roman monument rather supports that. "Ivan",
    like "Boris", is not unknown as a given name in the English-speaking
    world, but in eastern Europe, is a little more routine.

    Regardless of where he is from, he's a vandal and should spend a
    year cleaning public urinals in Italy as penance.  He can sleep in
    jail at
    night.

    Only a year?

    Apparently a 17yo Swiss national has done the same recently.

    --
    Ottavio Caruso

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