• Uh Oh ... Europe Starting To Fall Apart - Lockdowns Spawning Riots

    From B1ackwater@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 24 21:00:22 2021
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    Yes, that image of bovine contentedness is quickly losing
    its credibility. Today there were big riots in the Netherlands,
    including water cannons and attack dogs and a Covid
    testing center burnt to the ground. A mob also burned
    an effigy of the Danish PM in Copenhagen. In the UK,
    they keep arresting mass numbers for having big parties
    and the parties and such just keep getting bigger.

    Now we can agree on the scientific correctness of the
    lockdowns and related restrictions. However that is not
    the ONLY science that needs to be considered. People
    are social and need to be Doing Shit and Making Money
    and need to feel they can just get out and walk around -
    so the PSYCHOLOGY of the anti-Virus measures makes
    them counter-scientific.

    What good is it if you can save some from the Virus, but
    destroy your society and economy in the process ? That's
    like burning down your house to get rid of cockroaches.

    There are no great answers or compromises here. Sometimes
    there just aren't and that's that - the universe simply cannot be
    bent to the convenience of ape-decendants and their little
    problems.

    But Europe had better find SOMETHING quick. The vaccination
    drives are NOT going very well - supply is clearly not going to
    keep up with the massive demand. Vaccines are high-tech
    products and manufacture cannot be conveniently scaled-up
    like for car batteries or frying pans. Lockdowns are going to
    see the place burnt down and no lockdowns mean a large
    increase in mortality. Fun eh ?

    IMHO, there has been so much focus on the unobtanium of
    vaccines that efforts on new/better TREATMENT regimes
    were eclipsed. Time to pool all that knowledge gained by
    doctors/researchers across the world. If mortality can be
    notably reduced by better treatments then the lockdowns
    can be eased-off a bit and society and economies need
    not crumble.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to bw@magikbeanz.net on Mon Jan 25 03:08:09 2021
    On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:00:22 -0500, B1ackwater <bw@magikbeanz.net> wrote:

    My Mask

    "This is my mask. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My
    mask is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must
    master my life. Without me, my mask is useless. Without my mask, I
    am useless. I must wear my mask true. I must wear my mask straighter
    than my enemy who is trying to infect me. I must infect him before
    he infects me. I will... My mask and I know that what counts in war
    is not the infections we spread, the noise of our coughs, nor the
    exhales we make. We know that it is the infections that count. We
    will infect ... My mask is human, even as I, because it is my life.
    Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its
    strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its muzzle.
    I will keep my mask clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready.
    We will become part of each other. We will ... Before God, I swear
    this creed. My mask and myself are the defenders of my country. We
    are the masters of our infection. We are the saviors of my life.
    So be it, until there is no infection, but peace. Amen."

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  • From Winston_Smith@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 25 09:48:56 2021
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    On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:00:22 -0500, B1ackwater wrote:

    When the SHTF. Good luck Joe.

    Yes, that image of bovine contentedness is quickly losing
    its credibility. Today there were big riots in the Netherlands,
    including water cannons and attack dogs and a Covid
    testing center burnt to the ground. A mob also burned
    an effigy of the Danish PM in Copenhagen. In the UK,
    they keep arresting mass numbers for having big parties
    and the parties and such just keep getting bigger.

    Beside covid protests, there are political protests in Russia

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-putin-faces-rising-discontent-amid-weekend-protests-11611507059
    https://apnews.com/article/vladimir-putin-moscow-arrests-europe-russia-56e06f50eab494213d09346a5d9b4e69
    3,000 arrested at protests demanding Navalny’s release
    Russian police arrested more than 3,000 people Saturday in
    nationwide protests demanding the release of opposition leader Alexei
    Navalny, the Kremlin's most prominent foe, according to a group that
    counts political detentions

    General chaos reported at http://www.drudgereport.com/
    * Biden to impose South Africa travel ban to combat new variant...
    GOOD GOD NO, THAT'S RACIST AND XENOPHOBIC ;>}
    * Mexico enters darkest days of pandemic... PRESIDENT INFECTED...
    * How 'California miracle' dissolved into winter nightmare...
    * In ambulances, unseen, unwelcome passenger: COVID-19...
    * Lack of vaccine supply could hinder distribution...
    * Israel closes skies to air travel, again...
    Violence erupts in ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods...
    * Dubai Fires Health Chief as Infections Surge...
    * Borders tighten around world as curfew fury spills over...
    * Netherlands protests spark clashes with police, looting...
    * New Mutations may delay return to normal...
    * Oxygen Scarcity Swells Death Toll...
    * Job losses from virus 4 TIMES as bad as financial crisis...
    * World witnessing greatest rise in inequality on record...
    * MODERNA: WILL NEED 'BOOST' FOR NEW STRAIN

    The dollar is crumbling https://www.bloombergquint.com/gadfly/the-dollar-s-crash-is-only-just-beginning

    The supply lines are crumbling https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/pandemic-aftershocks-overwhelm-global-supply-lines/ar-BB1d3lz8?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Pandemic aftershocks overwhelm global supply lines
    One year after the coronavirus pandemic first disrupted global
    supply chains by closing Chinese factories, fresh shipping headaches
    are delaying U.S. farm exports, crimping domestic manufacturing and
    threatening higher prices for American consumers.
    The cost of shipping a container of goods has risen by 80
    percent since early November. (Nathan Laine/Bloomberg News)
    The cost of shipping a container of goods has risen by 80 percent
    since early November and has nearly tripled over the past year,
    according to the Freightos Baltic Index. The increase reflects
    dramatic shifts in consumption during the pandemic, as consumers
    redirect money they once spent at restaurants or movie theaters to the
    purchase of record amounts of imported clothing, computers, furniture
    and other goods.
    That abrupt and unprecedented spending shift has upended
    long-standing trade patterns, causing bottlenecks from the gates of
    Chinese factories to the doorsteps of U.S. homes.
    The commercial disorder is just the latest blow to
    globalization's finely tuned engine, capping more than a decade of
    financial crisis, trade wars, contagion and recession. Each shock has
    triggered swings in the flow of cash and goods through the $91
    trillion global economy. But reverberations from the pandemic are
    exposing vulnerabilities in the physical plumbing of cross-border
    commerce

    And the Crème De La Crème to top it all off --- Satanist Sex Dolls https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/satanist-sex-robots-vampire-dolls-23371522


    ___
    It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future,
    -- Yogi Berra

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  • From B1ackwater@21:1/5 to invalid@butterfly.net on Mon Jan 25 23:04:54 2021
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:48:56 -0700, Winston_Smith
    <invalid@butterfly.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:00:22 -0500, B1ackwater wrote:

    When the SHTF. Good luck Joe.

    Yes, that image of bovine contentedness is quickly losing
    its credibility. Today there were big riots in the Netherlands,
    including water cannons and attack dogs and a Covid
    testing center burnt to the ground. A mob also burned
    an effigy of the Danish PM in Copenhagen. In the UK,
    they keep arresting mass numbers for having big parties
    and the parties and such just keep getting bigger.

    Beside covid protests, there are political protests in Russia

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-putin-faces-rising-discontent-amid-weekend-protests-11611507059
    https://apnews.com/article/vladimir-putin-moscow-arrests-europe-russia-56e06f50eab494213d09346a5d9b4e69


    These are the sorts of widespread upheavals and ideological
    fanaticism that were the prelude to WW-1.

    Destabilization makes governments very nervous, desperate
    even. They get the impression that Their Time is NOW - or
    never. Little shit becomes bigger shit.

    A few years back we had the "Arab Spring". All the nutters
    on every side came out of the cracks. Result, the rise of
    ISIS, renewed military rule in Egypt, Iran cooking vast
    quantities of fissile material (BET they have The Bomb,
    that's ancient tech at this point, and they are good friends
    with Kim Jong Un too), and other arab governments
    suddenly went all fascist.

    The Russian thing is just another facet of the decay of
    the Old Order. Putin WILL get super-severe if need be
    and Biden's demand today that he give up Nalvalny
    didn't help things.

    Governments/established-systems around the world
    are in bad trouble . Covid stress was gasoline on the
    bonfire. There's a REASON umpteen million in central
    America are willing to risk all to get the hell out of there
    (and, unfortunately, bring their problems north with
    them). There are REASONS why India and China are
    prodding along a nuclear holocaust. There are REASONS
    why the American public was so easily hyper-polarized
    (or seem to be, most of it is a profitible MSM illusion).

    What worked well for so long doesn't seem good enough
    anymore and, as usual, the younger set sees a world it
    did not create and cannot understand and hallucinates
    that it can make it all "better". Won't happen, they'd
    make it horribly worse - lessons never learned mean
    all the worst old mistakes will be repeated.

    At some point soon, Biden is going to have to admit that
    the Big Threat are not any Klu-Klux beerbelly 'militias' but
    the anarchists they made use of before the elections.
    Those are the ones who have stepped-up operations,
    and the physical violence is getting worse. Screaming
    firebombing fanatics that talk like Red Guard missionaries

    WHEN he has to act, a lot of turds are going to impact the
    rotary ventillator .... and he USA will get even more disorganized,
    the people and State more and more paranoid and likely
    to do all the wrong things. Paranoid nations get triggerhappy,
    and China and/or NK are bound to provoke something pretty
    soon.

    Everyone thought the 21st century would be The Golden Age.
    Instead it's looking like the 20th All Over Again.

    3,000 arrested at protests demanding Navalny’s release
    Russian police arrested more than 3,000 people Saturday in
    nationwide protests demanding the release of opposition leader Alexei >Navalny, the Kremlin's most prominent foe, according to a group that
    counts political detentions

    General chaos reported at http://www.drudgereport.com/
    * Biden to impose South Africa travel ban to combat new variant...
    GOOD GOD NO, THAT'S RACIST AND XENOPHOBIC ;>}
    * Mexico enters darkest days of pandemic... PRESIDENT INFECTED...
    * How 'California miracle' dissolved into winter nightmare...
    * In ambulances, unseen, unwelcome passenger: COVID-19...
    * Lack of vaccine supply could hinder distribution...
    * Israel closes skies to air travel, again...
    Violence erupts in ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods...
    * Dubai Fires Health Chief as Infections Surge...
    * Borders tighten around world as curfew fury spills over...
    * Netherlands protests spark clashes with police, looting...
    * New Mutations may delay return to normal...
    * Oxygen Scarcity Swells Death Toll...
    * Job losses from virus 4 TIMES as bad as financial crisis...
    * World witnessing greatest rise in inequality on record...
    * MODERNA: WILL NEED 'BOOST' FOR NEW STRAIN

    The dollar is crumbling >https://www.bloombergquint.com/gadfly/the-dollar-s-crash-is-only-just-beginning

    The supply lines are crumbling >https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/pandemic-aftershocks-overwhelm-global-supply-lines/ar-BB1d3lz8?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Pandemic aftershocks overwhelm global supply lines
    One year after the coronavirus pandemic first disrupted global
    supply chains by closing Chinese factories, fresh shipping headaches
    are delaying U.S. farm exports, crimping domestic manufacturing and >threatening higher prices for American consumers.
    The cost of shipping a container of goods has risen by 80
    percent since early November. (Nathan Laine/Bloomberg News)
    The cost of shipping a container of goods has risen by 80 percent
    since early November and has nearly tripled over the past year,
    according to the Freightos Baltic Index. The increase reflects
    dramatic shifts in consumption during the pandemic, as consumers
    redirect money they once spent at restaurants or movie theaters to the >purchase of record amounts of imported clothing, computers, furniture
    and other goods.
    That abrupt and unprecedented spending shift has upended
    long-standing trade patterns, causing bottlenecks from the gates of
    Chinese factories to the doorsteps of U.S. homes.
    The commercial disorder is just the latest blow to
    globalization's finely tuned engine, capping more than a decade of
    financial crisis, trade wars, contagion and recession. Each shock has >triggered swings in the flow of cash and goods through the $91
    trillion global economy. But reverberations from the pandemic are
    exposing vulnerabilities in the physical plumbing of cross-border
    commerce

    And the Crème De La Crème to top it all off --- Satanist Sex Dolls >https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/satanist-sex-robots-vampire-dolls-23371522


    ___
    It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future,
    -- Yogi Berra


    Ah, good old Yogi :-)

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 27 14:03:58 2021
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    "B1ackwater" wrote in message news:io3v0glm5gha70ulope30vu06olomeqtrp@4ax.com...

    These are the sorts of widespread upheavals and ideological
    fanaticism that were the prelude to WW-1.

    Destabilization makes governments very nervous, desperate
    even. They get the impression that Their Time is NOW - or
    never. Little shit becomes bigger shit.

    A few years back we had the "Arab Spring". All the nutters
    on every side came out of the cracks. Result, the rise of
    ISIS, renewed military rule in Egypt, Iran cooking vast
    quantities of fissile material (BET they have The Bomb,
    that's ancient tech at this point, and they are good friends
    with Kim Jong Un too), and other arab governments
    suddenly went all fascist.

    Plus the Syrian civil war, which has so far claimed 400,000 lives: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

    So much for the "liberating" Arab Spring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qFiQyM8djY

    Why things will NEVER settle down in the Middle East:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veMFCFyOwFI

    https://www.vox.com/2016/1/27/10845114/arab-spring-failure

    https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/12/19/why-democracy-failed-in-the-middle-east

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