• Chinese guy marry Malay girl

    From d077912@siswa.upsi.edu.my@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 12:12:46 2019
    The main problem here is religion. Think about it. You marry the Malay, u gotta convert. But unlike other religions, Islam is a one way street, a dead end. Let's say u convert and marry,but if u divorce, u can't get out of Islam. If u are converting cos
    u happen to like the religion, do it. I got nothing to say. But if u wanna do it just to marry the girl and not because u like Islam, honestly speaking, you're fucked bro.

    Plus, make sure that when u say you love her, it's your brain, not your dick telling u that. Lust is often confused with love. Think over it.

    Dude, ur talking about marrying a Malay girl. The problem isn't just getting married, it's staying married with her. Don't forget all the problems in between, the reputation of your family and hers. Chinese and Malays have different cultures and
    perspectives. Remember that if u convert to marry her, u lose your family, but what if u convert,and still her parents won't let u marry her, or that u guys divorce, u will still be a Muslim, and still lose to your family. You will be a double loser!
    Your family is a certainty, your future with the Malay girl is uncertain. U want to risk something irreplaceable (family) that u have with someone whom you THINK is irreplaceable but uncertain (her), then good luck.

    Also, people can sacrifice everything for love. But sacrifice is both sides. If you are the one who has to convert, who has to change your lifestyle, who has to give up family and inheritance for her, ask yourself, what is she giving up for you? Her
    religion? Family? Inheritance?

    Also, sacrifice only what u have for her. But not family. People say, I am willing to give up family for love. Utter bullshit. Your parents gave u everything, even gave birth to you. U owe them everything. U belong to your family, they own you, so it's
    not yours to give away. Instead,you are theirs to give away. U can ignore your familial bonds, but are you bring filial?

    Plus, there will be ostrasization both for you and the girl. By asking u to convert, her parents are trying to protect her, the same ways your parents are fighting to protect you. In a country like Malaysia with such a strong Malay sentiment, it's a
    hella risky move man.

    Remember the Maxim. Those who fall in love first are the losers. The problem is, they don't know their losers because they feel like winners. You only win when u are both in love and can marry. Otherwise, game over. You lose. Hopefully, u will find this
    advice useful. From someone who has been there, done that and still struggling to make a clean break.

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  • From ngu@21:1/5 to d077912@siswa.upsi.edu.my on Tue Dec 31 22:38:19 2019
    Then what about the Chinese who arrived in Malaya centuries ago (when it
    was already Islamic) and married Malay girls?

    On 29/12/2019 4:12 AM, d077912@siswa.upsi.edu.my wrote:
    The main problem here is religion. Think about it. You marry the Malay, u gotta convert. But unlike other religions, Islam is a one way street, a dead end. Let's say u convert and marry,but if u divorce, u can't get out of Islam. If u are converting
    cos u happen to like the religion, do it. I got nothing to say. But if u wanna do it just to marry the girl and not because u like Islam, honestly speaking, you're fucked bro.

    Plus, make sure that when u say you love her, it's your brain, not your dick telling u that. Lust is often confused with love. Think over it.

    Dude, ur talking about marrying a Malay girl. The problem isn't just getting married, it's staying married with her. Don't forget all the problems in between, the reputation of your family and hers. Chinese and Malays have different cultures and
    perspectives. Remember that if u convert to marry her, u lose your family, but what if u convert,and still her parents won't let u marry her, or that u guys divorce, u will still be a Muslim, and still lose to your family. You will be a double loser!
    Your family is a certainty, your future with the Malay girl is uncertain. U want to risk something irreplaceable (family) that u have with someone whom you THINK is irreplaceable but uncertain (her), then good luck.

    Also, people can sacrifice everything for love. But sacrifice is both sides. If you are the one who has to convert, who has to change your lifestyle, who has to give up family and inheritance for her, ask yourself, what is she giving up for you? Her
    religion? Family? Inheritance?

    Also, sacrifice only what u have for her. But not family. People say, I am willing to give up family for love. Utter bullshit. Your parents gave u everything, even gave birth to you. U owe them everything. U belong to your family, they own you, so it's
    not yours to give away. Instead,you are theirs to give away. U can ignore your familial bonds, but are you bring filial?

    Plus, there will be ostrasization both for you and the girl. By asking u to convert, her parents are trying to protect her, the same ways your parents are fighting to protect you. In a country like Malaysia with such a strong Malay sentiment, it's a
    hella risky move man.

    Remember the Maxim. Those who fall in love first are the losers. The problem is, they don't know their losers because they feel like winners. You only win when u are both in love and can marry. Otherwise, game over. You lose. Hopefully, u will find
    this advice useful. From someone who has been there, done that and still struggling to make a clean break.


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  • From ameliewhite12111@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Want To Know on Thu Aug 27 03:35:05 2020
    On Thursday, January 21, 1999 at 1:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, Want To Know wrote:
    Can a Chinese guy marry a Malay girl without converting to Islam ? If the
    guy convert to Islam
    how would he face his parents ? He is the only son in the family. This has been the greatest pressure on him.
    If the guy is not converting to Islam, the Malay girl would not able to face hers family, relatives and friends
    after the marriage. Solution, do they have to migrate to foreign land like Canada, Australia or UK to
    make things easier for both family ?

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