• Re: USSR used swastika as socialist symbol before Germany did so

    From zak alt@21:1/5 to daniel.ru...@gmail.com on Tue Apr 26 06:39:35 2022
    On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 at 7:40:21 AM UTC-4, daniel.ru...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, May 30, 2011 7:26:58 AM UTC-4, News Journalism wrote:
    More evidence proves the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry in
    showing that
    the swastika was used as alphabetic symbolism for "socialism" by both
    the
    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and by the National Socialist
    German
    Workers' Party, as shown in the images above and below and at http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika-cccp-sssr.html

    In 1917, socialism was imposed in Russia when the former Union of
    Soviet
    Socialist Republics (USSR) was formed after the Russian Revolution of 1917,
    and the Russian Civil War of 1918-1920. The propaganda machinary introduced
    a new symbol for the new government: the swastika.

    The Soviet Socialist Swastika shows lettering around the swastika
    symbol and
    also shows the swastika as two separate arms pointing clockwise, representing separate "S" letters overlapping http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920cav.jpg

    Also see http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920cav-red-army-prikaz.jpg

    The Soviet swastika was so popular that paper money printed in the
    years
    1917 and 1918 carried large swastikas in the center of the bills. http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1917-250b.JPG

    Soviet socialist money openly used English, German and other languages
    in an
    effort to spread sickly socialism worldwide, consistent with its use
    of
    alphabetic "S" symbolism in its swastika symbol. http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920rubles250.jpg

    On official badges, the Soviet Swastika was yellow on a red
    background,
    mimicking the other socialist symbol, the hammer and sickle
    (Russian: ???? ?
    ?????, "serp i molot" (serpent & mallet?)), a symbol that also
    developed in
    the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (RSFSR). Eventually,
    the
    national flag mimicked the same color schemes and symbols.

    The lettering around the socialist swastika badge resembles "PCOCP"
    which,
    with slight alteration, became simply "CCCP" (USSR). The lettering and
    the
    swastika symbol refer to the R.S.F.S.R., the Russian Soviet
    Federative
    Socialist Republic (aka Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic).
    The socialist swastika badge uses the pattern of double letters in PP,
    CC
    and SS. Hence, the double S letters of the soviet socialist swastika
    stand
    for "Soviet Socialist" (the corresponding letters in RSFSR).

    The RSFSR began in 1917 and was the largest and most populous of the fifteen
    former republics of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, which
    became
    the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in December 1922. The Russian
    SFSR
    became the modern day Russia after the collapse of the USSR,
    officially
    dissolved on December 31, 1991.

    In 1939, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics joined as allies with
    the
    National Socialist German Workers' Party to invade Poland in a Pact
    to
    divide up Europe, spreading WWII. It occurred under the notorious Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which the Socialist Republics never
    renounced.
    Seven million died in Poland. As a result of the War, Finland had its Karelian Peninsula torn away by the Socialist Republics and 10
    countries
    Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, East Germany,
    Romania,
    Bulgaria, Hungary and Yugoslavia suffered under the Socialist
    Republics for
    half a century. http://rexcurry.net/socialists.html

    Even after WWII, Soviet Socialists adopted the swastika style
    symbolism of
    the German Trabant Sachsenring car. http://rexcurry.net/trabant-sachsenring-rex-curry.html

    Three common abbreviations (USSR, SSSR, CCCP) refer to a self-
    described
    socialist entity that used the word "socialist" in its name, as did
    the
    NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers' Party) which used the double
    "S"
    letters of the Hakenkreuz - swastika. Russian socialists used
    symbolism and
    the word "socialist" in their group's name, before the German
    socialists and
    it served as an example. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1c.html

    CCCP led to the derisive joke that it signified the "coalition of collectivist crusaders for the proletariat." It also inspired the old
    gag
    of someone asking which "C" stood for "Communist." Of course, the abbreviation did not refer to communism, it referred to socialism, as
    did
    the abbreviation and symbol for the National Socialist German
    Workers'
    Party. http://rexcurry.net/bookpic-socialism-cccp-ussr.gif

    Translated:
    RSFSR was: Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic
    USSR was: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

    Transliterated:
    ????? was: Rossi?yskaya Sovetskikh Federati?vnaya (or Soyuz) Sotsialisticheskikh Respublika (RSFSR).
    CCCP was: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik (SSSR).

    CCCP is actually cyrillic. In Latin letters it would be SSSR: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik (Soviet United/Federated Socialistic Republic). Untransliterated it was CCCP, and
    transliterated it
    was SSSR.
    Great post. You would probably enjoy the following post too because your swastika information highlights the important work of the symbologist Dr. Rex Curry, who showed how the swastika was used to represent crossed "S" letters for "socialism" under
    the Union of Soviet Socialist Repubics and under the National Socialist German Workers Party.
    http://pledge-of-allegiance.blogspot.com/2014/03/swastika-of-soviet-socialism-russia-led.html

    The swastika was also used on early paper money used under the USSR. http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika-cccp-sssr.html
    Lenin’s swastika evolved into the Communist swastika. It was four “C”-letter shapes merged to form a swastika. Communism’s swastika was inspired by the “CCCP” acronym and by swastikas on Soviet socialism’s ruble currency that signified “S
    -letter shapes for “Soviet Socialism” (from “SSSR”). See an image of the communist swastika here in the book "Hitler Was A Communist" https://www.amazon.com/Hitler-was-Communist-Ian-Tinny-ebook/dp/B09XFKJTL9

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  • From zak alt@21:1/5 to News Journalism on Tue Apr 26 06:32:26 2022
    On Monday, May 30, 2011 at 7:26:58 AM UTC-4, News Journalism wrote:
    More evidence proves the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry in
    showing that
    the swastika was used as alphabetic symbolism for "socialism" by both
    the
    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and by the National Socialist
    German
    Workers' Party, as shown in the images above and below and at http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika-cccp-sssr.html
    In 1917, socialism was imposed in Russia when the former Union of
    Soviet
    Socialist Republics (USSR) was formed after the Russian Revolution of
    1917,
    and the Russian Civil War of 1918-1920. The propaganda machinary
    introduced
    a new symbol for the new government: the swastika.
    The Soviet Socialist Swastika shows lettering around the swastika
    symbol and
    also shows the swastika as two separate arms pointing clockwise,
    representing separate "S" letters overlapping http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920cav.jpg
    Also see http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920cav-red-army-prikaz.jpg The Soviet swastika was so popular that paper money printed in the
    years
    1917 and 1918 carried large swastikas in the center of the bills. http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1917-250b.JPG
    Soviet socialist money openly used English, German and other languages
    in an
    effort to spread sickly socialism worldwide, consistent with its use
    of
    alphabetic "S" symbolism in its swastika symbol. http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920rubles250.jpg
    On official badges, the Soviet Swastika was yellow on a red
    background,
    mimicking the other socialist symbol, the hammer and sickle
    (Russian: ???? ?
    ?????, "serp i molot" (serpent & mallet?)), a symbol that also
    developed in
    the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (RSFSR). Eventually,
    the
    national flag mimicked the same color schemes and symbols.
    The lettering around the socialist swastika badge resembles "PCOCP"
    which,
    with slight alteration, became simply "CCCP" (USSR). The lettering and
    the
    swastika symbol refer to the R.S.F.S.R., the Russian Soviet
    Federative
    Socialist Republic (aka Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic).
    The socialist swastika badge uses the pattern of double letters in PP,
    CC
    and SS. Hence, the double S letters of the soviet socialist swastika
    stand
    for "Soviet Socialist" (the corresponding letters in RSFSR).
    The RSFSR began in 1917 and was the largest and most populous of the
    fifteen
    former republics of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, which
    became
    the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in December 1922. The Russian
    SFSR
    became the modern day Russia after the collapse of the USSR,
    officially
    dissolved on December 31, 1991.
    In 1939, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics joined as allies with
    the
    National Socialist German Workers' Party to invade Poland in a Pact
    to
    divide up Europe, spreading WWII. It occurred under the notorious Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which the Socialist Republics never
    renounced.
    Seven million died in Poland. As a result of the War, Finland had its Karelian Peninsula torn away by the Socialist Republics and 10
    countries
    Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, East Germany,
    Romania,
    Bulgaria, Hungary and Yugoslavia suffered under the Socialist
    Republics for
    half a century. http://rexcurry.net/socialists.html
    Even after WWII, Soviet Socialists adopted the swastika style
    symbolism of
    the German Trabant Sachsenring car. http://rexcurry.net/trabant-sachsenring-rex-curry.html
    Three common abbreviations (USSR, SSSR, CCCP) refer to a self-
    described
    socialist entity that used the word "socialist" in its name, as did
    the
    NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers' Party) which used the double
    "S"
    letters of the Hakenkreuz - swastika. Russian socialists used
    symbolism and
    the word "socialist" in their group's name, before the German
    socialists and
    it served as an example. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1c.html
    CCCP led to the derisive joke that it signified the "coalition of collectivist crusaders for the proletariat." It also inspired the old
    gag
    of someone asking which "C" stood for "Communist." Of course, the abbreviation did not refer to communism, it referred to socialism, as
    did
    the abbreviation and symbol for the National Socialist German
    Workers'
    Party. http://rexcurry.net/bookpic-socialism-cccp-ussr.gif
    Translated:
    RSFSR was: Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic
    USSR was: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
    Transliterated:
    ????? was: Rossi?yskaya Sovetskikh Federati?vnaya (or Soyuz) Sotsialisticheskikh Respublika (RSFSR).
    CCCP was: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik (SSSR).
    CCCP is actually cyrillic. In Latin letters it would be SSSR: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik (Soviet United/Federated
    Socialistic Republic). Untransliterated it was CCCP, and
    transliterated it
    was SSSR.
    Rex Curry has done tons of scholarly research on those topics that you post about. Here are some fascinating points in books about the symbologist Dr. Curry's work.

    9. The term “swastika” never appears in the original Mein Kampf.
    10. There is no evidence that Hitler ever used the word “swastika.”
    11. The symbol that Hitler did use was intended to represent “S”-letter shapes for “socialist.”
    12. NEW SWASTIKA DISCOVERY: Hitler’s symbol is the reason why Hitler renamed his political party from DAP to NSDAP - "National Socialist German Workers Party" - because he needed the word "Socialist" in his party's name so that Hitler could use
    swastikas as "S"-letter shaped logos for "SOCIALIST" as the party's emblem. The party's name had to fit in Hitler's socialist branding campaign that used the swastika and many other similar alphabetical symbols, including the “SS” and “SA” and “
    NSV” and “VW” etc. He was selling socialism by selling flags and related merchandise. It resembled the advertising campaign of the American socialist Francis Bellamy. The “new discovery” part includes the fact that the public doesn’t know
    that Hitler’s use of the swastika as alphabetical symbolism is a reason why he changed the name of the party (adding the word “socialist”). The new discovery is also that it is additional proof that Hitler employed the swastika as alphabetical
    symbolism of “S”-letter shapes for his socialism. The discoveries are from the Swastikologist Dr. Rex Curry’s work.
    13. NEW LENIN’S SWASTIKA REVELATION: Vladimir Lenin’s swastika is exposed herein. The impact of Lenin’s swastikas was reinforced at that time with additional swastikas on ruble money (paper currency). The swastika became a symbol of socialism under
    Lenin. It’s influence upon Adolf Hitler is explained in this book.
    14. Hitler altered his own signature to reflect his “S-shapes for socialism” logo branding.
    15. Mussolini was a long-time socialist leader, with a socialist background, raised by socialists to be a socialist, and he joined socialists known as “fascio, fasci, and fascisti.”
    16. Fascism came from a socialist (e.g. Mussolini). Communism came from a socialist (e.g. Marx). Fascism and Communism came from socialists.
    17. German socialists and Soviet socialists partnered for International Socialism in 1939. They launched WWII, invading Poland together, and continued onward from there, killing millions. Soviet socialism had signed on for Hitler’s Holocaust.
    18. After Hitler’s death, Stalin continued the plan he had made with Hitler for Global Socialism. Stalin took over the same areas that Hitler had captured. He used the same facilities that Hitler had used. Hitler’s Holocaust never ended. Stalin
    replaced Hitler.

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