• Captured Ukrainian servicemen captured while trying to break through fr

    From me@privacy.net@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 16 18:30:35 2022
    XPost: hun.politika

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hboH-S3MSTw



    Sladkov: Okay, can anybody tell me, is there a chemical weapon
    were used against you?

    Crowd: No

    Sladkov: No really, because i really need to know

    Crowd: No, not used

    Sladkov: So no headache, vomit or losing of coordination?

    Crowd: No

    Sladkov: Okay, how you've been captured?

    Crowd: We surrendered by our own


    Sladkov: Any officers here? Raise your hands.

    some of them raised

    Sladkov: What's your position?

    1st officer: chief of communications

    Sladkov: Okay, get it

    2nd officer: giberish on ukrainian

    Sladkov: What?

    2nd officer: Deputy officer

    Sladkov: Is there such a position?

    2nd officer: Yes

    Sladkov: Wow. Colleague, I, too, graduated from a political
    school. Which one did you graduate from?

    2nd officer: I am not a specialist...

    Sladkov: Okay, uhm, how do people feel and why did they go for the breakthrough?

    2nd officer: At the brigade commander's command

    Sladkov: Name me the brigade commander

    2nd officer: Colonel Baranyuk

    Sladkov: Colonel Baranyuk? Okay, introduce yourself, please.

    2nd officer: Major Chorniy

    Sladkov: Okay, major. State of morale of the unit before coming out?

    2nd officer: 3

    Sladkov: On 3, right? Look, Ammunition, provisions, condition of
    weapons? Rate it.

    2nd Officer: Uhm, its almost empty...


    Sladkov: Okay, any other officers?





    Sladkov: All the other soldiers are privates here? Who are you?

    Soldier: Senior Sergant

    Sladkov: What was your position?

    Soldier: Commander of the squad of the REW suppression complex.

    Sladkov: Where were you trained?

    Soldier: I haven't got it yet, I've just transferred to the unit

    Sladkov: Okay, what was your position were before then?

    Soldier: I worked on an anti-aircraft rig, as an operator

    Sladkov: Anti-aircraft rig? Which one? ZU-22?

    Soldier: 23-2

    Sladkov: 23-2, Shilka?

    Soldier: No

    Sladkov: Which one then?

    Soldier: 23-2

    Sladkov: Okay, already used on aircraft?

    Soldier: No

    Sladkov: On the ground units?

    Soldier: Yes, but i weren't working here, i were transferred on
    that moment.

    Sladkov: Okay, i get it.




    Sladkov: Mechanics and drivers here? Raise your hands.

    raised hands

    Sladkov: Okay, what's your name?

    Soldier: Oleg

    Sladkov: Surname?

    Soldier: Chupranchyuk

    Sladkov: What?

    Soldier: CHU-PRAN-CHYUK

    Sladkov: Where are you from?

    Soldier: Kirovogradskaya oblast'

    Sladkov: Where from exactly?

    Soldier: Novoukrainka

    Sladkov: Novoukrainka, okay, tell me please, what kind of
    machinery was it on, was it tucked in and...

    Soldier: giberrish on ukrainian

    Sladkov: on ukrainian On russian, please

    Soldier: I only stand on the driver's seat, I don't know about
    technology

    Sladkov: Okay, and you?

    2nd Soldier: ukrainian I'm driver too

    Sladkov: I didn't hear you

    2nd Soldier: switch to russian I'm driver too

    Sladkov: Ah, are you on wheeled vehicles?

    2nd Soldier: I were driving Ural

    Sladkov: Ural?

    2nd soldier: ukrainian My vehicle is not combat ready, just driving

    Sladkov: Ne bege you mean not combat ready? (Clarifies the
    correctness of the translation)

    2nd Soldier: Yes, it were for write-off

    Sladkov: Okay, i get it.




    Sladkov: Okay, i have a question: Who surrendered by himself, and
    who did it during action?

    silence

    Sladkov: Guys, don't be quiet...

    Crowd: We surrendered by ourselves

    Sladkov: How? You were going out not even raise your hands, you
    were trying to pass through.

    Soldier: Yes sir, we got under heavy fire.

    Sladkov coming closer

    Sladkov: So, okay, moved out the convoy, started shooting at YOU,
    firing at you

    Soldier: Yes sir...

    Sladkov: ...and then? What was your next move?

    Soldier: We're trying to go on foot, because vehicles were
    destroyed and also there was no way to pass on the road. And in
    the forest - we were surrounded and we had to surrender...

    Sladkov: What's your name?

    Soldier: Dmitry

    Sladkov: Dim, your surname

    Soldier: Gashev

    Sladkov: What?

    Soldier: Gashev.

    Sladkov: Okay, what is your position?

    Soldier: I'm from REW too

    Sladkov: Okay, i get it. What is REW means? Station operator or what?

    Soldier: Well, uhm, yeah - station operator.

    Sladkov: Look, how many people were with you alive here, and how
    many died?

    Soldier: I'm pretty sure that there was a three killed. One of
    them being shelled, immidiately killed. Another one were shot. And
    the third one were got by shrapnel. There were 13 alive. Group
    from 13-15 people. We have to surrender because we were surrounded.

    Sladkov: I get it, where did you?
    Soldier: I don't know i was just following a man, that know where
    to go. So, i'm...
    Sladkov: So you just don't have an objective?
    2nd Soldier: giberrish
    Sladkov: A?
    2nd soldier: We were just escaping the shelling
    Sladkov: Ah, i get it. So you actually spreading out and escaping?
    Okay

    Sladkov: Right, so... I want to ask you something, Deputy officer.
    How were people prepared for the breakthrough?
    DO: An hour before we left, they said we were going to go out,
    showed the cars and told us to pack our things, and for a certain
    time...
    Sladkov: Were there someone, who disagree?
    DO: No, we just wanted to survive it all and get out as soon as
    possible
    Sladkov: Then why just don't surrendered then? If you surrendered
    earlier, you were in warm now.
    DO: It's just that no one has said anything before about who you
    can surrender to...get by with an offer than a bullet
    Sladkov: Okay, What is the base unit here?
    Crowd: REW
    Sladkov: Oh, so all of you here are a Radio electronic warfare
    Crowd: Most of us, yeah
    Sladkov: Okay, so some of you made it back to the base. How many
    of you left out there in the base?
    Soldier: ukrainian We don't know
    Sladkov: No, what do you mean? Instead of you, what unit also here
    fighting? Or it's only REW were fighting? Out there in the factory.
    Soldier: There were no one left, everyone got out.
    Sladkov: What do you mean by "no one"?
    Soldier: So it is, everyone escapes
    Sladkov: Okay, so you REW guys just holding this district, am i right?
    Soldier: No
    Sladkov: Then who were fighting?
    2nd Soldier: There's a combat units for this...
    Sladkov: So, they still there?
    2nd Soldier: Yeah, i think.
    Sladkov: What battalion? What unit?
    Soldier in background: 1st battalion...
    Sladkov: Okay, so this is the 36th Brigade, 503 is a separate
    battalion. And the second separate one, and first is a part of the
    36th?
    Crowd: No
    Sladkov: How many in 36-s?
    Crowd: One
    Sladkov: One?
    Soldier: One here, and 501st, 503d and 1st.
    Sladkov: Ah, i get it. So, only 4 battalions. Are they still there?
    Crowd: someone agrees we don't know. We all escaping.
    Sladkov: On those who survived - you're not informed?
    Crowd: No...
    Sladkov: I get it.

    Sladkov: Okay, is there anyone injured?
    raised hand
    Sladkov: What's your name?
    Soldier: Andrey.
    Sladkov: Andrusha, you surname
    Soldier: Gavrish
    Sladkov: Gavrish?
    Soldier: Yes
    Sladkov: What is your injury?
    Soldier: Shrapnel, perforated wound.
    Sladkov: Do you got any medical attention?
    Soldier: Yes, your guys gave me medical attention
    Sladkov: Do you need a painkillers
    Soldier: No, just bandaging.
    Sladkov: Have you been injected with something?
    Soldier: No, i did it myself.
    Sladkov: Cleaned your wounds?
    Soldier: Yes, but i need it again.
    Sladkov: Anyone else injured?
    raised hand
    Sladkov: Where?
    2nd Soldier: Shrapnel, on the rib.
    Sladkov: Shrapnel? Are you bandaged?
    2nd Soldier: Yes
    Sladkov: By whom?
    2nd soldier: Your guys helped me, bandaged me and gave me a
    painkillers. I'm fine
    Sladkov: So you get them, what exactly injected? Promidol?
    2nd Soldier: ukrainian i didn't saw it i don't understand what he
    saying next, he's so quiet
    Sladkov: Where are you from?
    2nd Soldier: Melechina
    Sladkov: Where from exactly? In Hmelechina
    2nd soldier: Hmelechina, Hmelnitsky Rayon
    Sladkov: Where exactly? From Dubov?
    2nd Soldier: gibberish
    Sladkov: Do you know the road there, in Khmelnitsky?
    2nd soldier: From Dubov, yes...
    Sladkov: Beerhouse

    Sladkov: Okay, guys. Let me just pass through, not to step on the
    matrasses. Who's injured? What is is with you?
    Soldier: Bullet wound
    Sladkov: What?
    Soldier: Bullet wound
    Sladkov: I get it, you bandaged?
    Soldier: Yes
    Sladkov: Injected something?
    Soldier: No, just treat my wound

    Sladkov: Okay, introduce yourself.
    Soldier: Senior Sergant Verenets, Alexey
    Sladkov: Lesh, head injury?
    Soldier: No, just a scratch
    Sladkov: What is your injury then?
    Soldier: I don't have any
    Sladkov: Look, half of your face is swelled, what happened?
    Soldier: When we were on Ural, we crashed in the bushes and
    everything become a total mess
    Sladkov: I get it, Your position?
    Soldier: Driver

    Sladkov: Okay, what happened to you? Woah
    Soldier: Sharpnel on the leg, and shoulder...
    Sladkov: What was your position?
    Soldier: Senior operator...
    Sladkov: Look, all of your unit is REW, i see. What is it...?
    Soldier: perforated injury?
    Sladkov: Perforated injury? Sharpnel or bullet?
    Soldier: Shrapnel
    Sladkov: I get it, who give you a medical treatment?
    Soldier: First, it was my medic and then yours
    Sladkov: What our medics did? Injected painkillers, treat your wound?
    Soldier: Injected and clean my wound and get rid of shrapnel
    Sladkov: Get rid of sharpnel
    Soldier: One got out, but another one still here.
    Sladkov: Shrapnel from what? VOG or bigger?
    Soldier: its small, 82...
    Sladkov: Look, 82... Is your veins alright?
    Soldier: I dont know...
    Sladkov: You crotch is alright?
    Soldier: Yes...

    Sladkov: Okay. You?
    Soldier: Under shoulder
    Sladkov: Under shoulder, right?
    Soldier: Shrapnel injury
    Sladkov: Who give you a medical treatment?
    Soldier: Your guys...
    Sladkov: Can you get a medical treatment out there by any chance?
    Soldier: No, there was a chaos out there, everyone escaped.
    Sladkov: I get it. Good.

    Sladkov: So it's clear, these guys are all captured in action.
    Basically. They say they surrendered, but under fire. So we can
    assume it's not a voluntary surrender. So far. Well, it'll be
    handled, I guess.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?TMOzZsWR?=@21:1/5 to me@privacy.net on Sat Apr 16 18:29:15 2022
    XPost: hun.politika

    On 4/16/22 12:30, me@privacy.net wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hboH-S3MSTw

    szerencsétlen micro-osztagnak biztos azt
    hazutták hogy közelébe se lesznek az éles
    oldalnak...



    Sladkov: Okay, can anybody tell me, is there a chemical weapon were used against you?

    Crowd: No

    Sladkov: No really, because i really need to know

    Crowd: No, not used

    Sladkov: So no headache, vomit or losing of coordination?

    Crowd: No

    Sladkov: Okay, how you've been captured?

    Crowd: We surrendered by our own


    Sladkov: Any officers here? Raise your hands.

    some of them raised

    Sladkov: What's your position?

    1st officer: chief of communications

    Sladkov: Okay, get it

    2nd officer: giberish on ukrainian

    Sladkov: What?

    2nd officer: Deputy officer

    Sladkov: Is there such a position?

    2nd officer: Yes

    Sladkov: Wow. Colleague, I, too, graduated from a political school.
    Which one did you graduate from?

    2nd officer: I am not a specialist...

    Sladkov: Okay, uhm, how do people feel and why did they go for the breakthrough?

    2nd officer: At the brigade commander's command

    Sladkov: Name me the brigade commander

    2nd officer: Colonel Baranyuk

    Sladkov: Colonel Baranyuk? Okay, introduce yourself, please.

    2nd officer: Major Chorniy

    Sladkov: Okay, major. State of morale of the unit before coming out?

    2nd officer: 3

    Sladkov: On 3, right? Look, Ammunition, provisions, condition of
    weapons? Rate it.

    2nd Officer: Uhm, its almost empty...


    Sladkov: Okay, any other officers?





    Sladkov: All the other soldiers are privates here? Who are you?

    Soldier: Senior Sergant

    Sladkov: What was your position?

    Soldier: Commander of the squad of the REW suppression complex.

    Sladkov: Where were you trained?

    Soldier: I haven't got it yet, I've just transferred to the unit

    Sladkov: Okay, what was your position were before then?

    Soldier: I worked on an anti-aircraft rig, as an operator

    Sladkov: Anti-aircraft rig? Which one? ZU-22?

    Soldier: 23-2

    Sladkov: 23-2, Shilka?

    Soldier: No

    Sladkov: Which one then?

    Soldier: 23-2

    Sladkov: Okay, already used on aircraft?

    Soldier: No

    Sladkov: On the ground units?

    Soldier: Yes, but i weren't working here, i were transferred on that
    moment.

    Sladkov: Okay, i get it.




    Sladkov: Mechanics and drivers here? Raise your hands.

    raised hands

    Sladkov: Okay, what's your name?

    Soldier: Oleg

    Sladkov: Surname?

    Soldier: Chupranchyuk

    Sladkov: What?

    Soldier: CHU-PRAN-CHYUK

    Sladkov: Where are you from?

    Soldier: Kirovogradskaya oblast'

    Sladkov: Where from exactly?

    Soldier: Novoukrainka

    Sladkov: Novoukrainka, okay, tell me please, what kind of machinery was
    it on, was it tucked in and...

    Soldier: giberrish on ukrainian

    Sladkov: on ukrainian On russian, please

    Soldier: I only stand on the driver's seat, I don't know about technology

    Sladkov: Okay, and you?

    2nd Soldier: ukrainian I'm driver too

    Sladkov: I didn't hear you

    2nd Soldier: switch to russian I'm driver too

    Sladkov: Ah, are you on wheeled vehicles?

    2nd Soldier: I were driving Ural

    Sladkov: Ural?

    2nd soldier: ukrainian My vehicle is not combat ready, just driving

    Sladkov: Ne bege you mean not combat ready? (Clarifies the correctness
    of the translation)

    2nd Soldier: Yes, it were for write-off

    Sladkov: Okay, i get it.




    Sladkov: Okay, i have a question: Who surrendered by himself, and who
    did it during action?

    silence

    Sladkov: Guys, don't be quiet...

    Crowd: We surrendered by ourselves

    Sladkov: How? You were going out not even raise your hands, you were
    trying to pass through.

    Soldier: Yes sir, we got under heavy fire.

    Sladkov coming closer

    Sladkov: So, okay, moved out the convoy, started shooting at YOU, firing
    at you

    Soldier: Yes sir...

    Sladkov: ...and then? What was your next move?

    Soldier: We're trying to go on foot, because vehicles were destroyed and
    also there was no way to pass on the road. And in the forest - we were surrounded and we had to surrender...

    Sladkov: What's your name?

    Soldier: Dmitry

    Sladkov: Dim, your surname

    Soldier: Gashev

    Sladkov: What?

    Soldier: Gashev.

    Sladkov: Okay, what is your position?

    Soldier: I'm from REW too

    Sladkov: Okay, i get it. What is REW means? Station operator or what?

    Soldier: Well, uhm, yeah - station operator.

    Sladkov: Look, how many people were with you alive here, and how many died?

    Soldier: I'm pretty sure that there was a three killed. One of them
    being shelled, immidiately killed. Another one were shot. And the third
    one were got by shrapnel. There were 13 alive. Group from 13-15 people.
    We have to surrender because we were surrounded.

    Sladkov: I get it, where did you?
    Soldier: I don't know i was just following a man, that know where to go.
    So, i'm...
    Sladkov: So you just don't have an objective?
    2nd Soldier: giberrish
    Sladkov: A?
    2nd soldier: We were just escaping the shelling
    Sladkov: Ah, i get it. So you actually spreading out and escaping? Okay

    Sladkov: Right, so... I want to ask you something, Deputy officer. How
    were people prepared for the breakthrough?
    DO: An hour before we left, they said we were going to go out, showed
    the cars and told us to pack our things, and for a certain time...
    Sladkov: Were there someone, who disagree?
    DO: No, we just wanted to survive it all and get out as soon as possible Sladkov: Then why just don't surrendered then? If you surrendered
    earlier, you were in warm now.
    DO: It's just that no one has said anything before about who you can surrender to...get by with an offer than a bullet
    Sladkov: Okay, What is the base unit here?
    Crowd: REW
    Sladkov: Oh, so all of you here are a Radio electronic warfare
    Crowd: Most of us, yeah
    Sladkov: Okay, so some of you made it back to the base. How many of you
    left out there in the base?
    Soldier: ukrainian We don't know
    Sladkov: No, what do you mean? Instead of you, what unit also here
    fighting? Or it's only REW were fighting? Out there in the factory.
    Soldier: There were no one left, everyone got out.
    Sladkov: What do you mean by "no one"?
    Soldier: So it is, everyone escapes
    Sladkov: Okay, so you REW guys just holding this district, am i right? Soldier: No
    Sladkov: Then who were fighting?
    2nd Soldier: There's a combat units for this...
    Sladkov: So, they still there?
    2nd Soldier: Yeah, i think.
    Sladkov: What battalion? What unit?
    Soldier in background: 1st battalion...
    Sladkov: Okay, so this is the 36th Brigade, 503 is a separate battalion.
    And the second separate one, and first is a part of the 36th?
    Crowd: No
    Sladkov: How many in 36-s?
    Crowd: One
    Sladkov: One?
    Soldier: One here, and 501st, 503d and 1st.
    Sladkov: Ah, i get it. So, only 4 battalions. Are they still there?
    Crowd: someone agrees we don't know. We all escaping.
    Sladkov: On those who survived - you're not informed?
    Crowd: No...
    Sladkov: I get it.

    Sladkov: Okay, is there anyone injured?
    raised hand
    Sladkov: What's your name?
    Soldier: Andrey.
    Sladkov: Andrusha, you surname
    Soldier: Gavrish
    Sladkov: Gavrish?
    Soldier: Yes
    Sladkov: What is your injury?
    Soldier: Shrapnel, perforated wound.
    Sladkov: Do you got any medical attention?
    Soldier: Yes, your guys gave me medical attention
    Sladkov: Do you need a painkillers
    Soldier: No, just bandaging.
    Sladkov: Have you been injected with something?
    Soldier: No, i did it myself.
    Sladkov: Cleaned your wounds?
    Soldier: Yes, but i need it again.
    Sladkov: Anyone else injured?
    raised hand
    Sladkov: Where?
    2nd Soldier: Shrapnel, on the rib.
    Sladkov: Shrapnel? Are you bandaged?
    2nd Soldier: Yes
    Sladkov: By whom?
    2nd soldier: Your guys helped me, bandaged me and gave me a painkillers.
    I'm fine
    Sladkov: So you get them, what exactly injected? Promidol?
    2nd Soldier: ukrainian i didn't saw it i don't understand what he saying next, he's so quiet
    Sladkov: Where are you from?
    2nd Soldier: Melechina
    Sladkov: Where from exactly? In Hmelechina
    2nd soldier: Hmelechina, Hmelnitsky Rayon
    Sladkov: Where exactly? From Dubov?
    2nd Soldier: gibberish
    Sladkov: Do you know the road there, in Khmelnitsky?
    2nd soldier: From Dubov, yes...
    Sladkov: Beerhouse

    Sladkov: Okay, guys. Let me just pass through, not to step on the
    matrasses. Who's injured? What is is with you?
    Soldier: Bullet wound
    Sladkov: What?
    Soldier: Bullet wound
    Sladkov: I get it, you bandaged?
    Soldier: Yes
    Sladkov: Injected something?
    Soldier: No, just treat my wound

    Sladkov: Okay, introduce yourself.
    Soldier: Senior Sergant Verenets, Alexey
    Sladkov: Lesh, head injury?
    Soldier: No, just a scratch
    Sladkov: What is your injury then?
    Soldier: I don't have any
    Sladkov: Look, half of your face is swelled, what happened?
    Soldier: When we were on Ural, we crashed in the bushes and everything
    become a total mess
    Sladkov: I get it, Your position?
    Soldier: Driver

    Sladkov: Okay, what happened to you? Woah
    Soldier: Sharpnel on the leg, and shoulder...
    Sladkov: What was your position?
    Soldier: Senior operator...
    Sladkov: Look, all of your unit is REW, i see. What is it...?
    Soldier: perforated injury?
    Sladkov: Perforated injury? Sharpnel or bullet?
    Soldier: Shrapnel
    Sladkov: I get it, who give you a medical treatment?
    Soldier: First, it was my medic and then yours
    Sladkov: What our medics did? Injected painkillers, treat your wound? Soldier: Injected and clean my wound and get rid of shrapnel
    Sladkov: Get rid of sharpnel
    Soldier: One got out, but another one still here.
    Sladkov: Shrapnel from what? VOG or bigger?
    Soldier: its small, 82...
    Sladkov: Look, 82... Is your veins alright?
    Soldier: I dont know...
    Sladkov: You crotch is alright?
    Soldier: Yes...

    Sladkov: Okay. You?
    Soldier: Under shoulder
    Sladkov: Under shoulder, right?
    Soldier: Shrapnel injury
    Sladkov: Who give you a medical treatment?
    Soldier: Your guys...
    Sladkov: Can you get a medical treatment out there by any chance?
    Soldier: No, there was a chaos out there, everyone escaped.
    Sladkov: I get it. Good.

    Sladkov: So it's clear, these guys are all captured in action.
    Basically. They say they surrendered, but under fire. So we can assume
    it's not a voluntary surrender. So far. Well, it'll be handled, I guess.

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