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    From Chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 9 19:30:46 2021
    On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 21:41:00 -0700, Радостина wrote:

    мерак ми е възрожденска къща и това е ;-)))) Сметки без кръчмар, ама не пречи да мечтая.

    Да не ти се сбъдне мечтата, че в тези къщи се живее много лошо.

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  • From Chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 04:00:23 2021
    On Thu, 09 Sep 2021 17:26:25 -0700, Радостина wrote:

    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 12:30:47 PM UTC-7, Chorbalan wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 21:41:00 -0700, Радостина wrote:

    мерак ми е възрожденска къща и това е ;-)))) >> > Сметки без кръчмар, ама не пречи да мечтая.
    Да не ти се сбъдне мечтата, че в тези къщи се
    живее много лошо.

    Може ли да обясниш защо?!
    Тези къщи всъщност повечето са с каменни основи, което означава, че лятото поне на първия етаж ще е прохладно
    те са реновирани, с топлоизолация, сменени покриви, някои имат локално отопление, построени са бани вътре.
    Какво им е лошото?! Според мен са строени много по-умно от съвременните.


    Изолацията им не може да бъде направена добре
    ако ще им се запазва оригиналната конструкция
    и сдуда и течененията в тях са съществени, а оттам и сметката за отопление.
    И са глупаво построени за сегашния живот.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 9 21:21:34 2021
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 9 22:29:06 2021
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  • From N Kostoff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 08:52:07 2021
    On 10.9.2021 г. 8:27, Радостина wrote:
    .....
    Не знам какво разбираш под оригинална конструкция.
    Някои са гредоред, някои са тухла. Напротив, прави им се топлоизолация.

    Например, това, че в такава къща няма баня и тоалетна.
    Всички са гредоред, някои с плет, други - с тухли.


    --
    _____
    НК

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From N Kostoff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 15:49:36 2021
    On 10.9.2021 г. 9:08, Радостина wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 10:51:53 PM UTC-7, N Kostoff wrote:
    On 10.9.2021 г. 8:27, Радостина wrote:
    .....
    Не знам какво разбираш под оригинална конструкция.
    Някои са гредоред, някои са тухла. Напротив, прави им се топлоизолация.
    Например, това, че в такава къща няма баня и тоалетна.
    Всички са гредоред, някои с плет, други - с тухли.

    ИМА.
    Някои имат по две, че и по три.
    Обясняват, че тези къщи са реновирани.

    Значи, не са _с оригиналната_ конструкция.

    --
    _____
    НК

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 13:30:00 2021
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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 11 05:06:37 2021
    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 13:30:00 -0700, Радостина wrote:

    On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 5:49:21 AM UTC-7, N Kostoff wrote:

    On 10.9.2021 г. 9:08, Радостина wrote:

    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 10:51:53 PM UTC-7, N Kostoff wrote:

    On 10.9.2021 г. 8:27, Радостина wrote:

    .....

    Не знам какво разбираш под оригинална конструкция.

    Някои са гредоред, някои са тухла. Напротив, прави им се
    топлоизолация.

    Например, това, че в такава къща няма баня и тоалетна.

    Всички са гредоред, някои с плет, други - с тухли.

    ИМА.

    Някои имат по две, че и по три. Обясняват, че тези къщи са
    реновирани.

    Значи, не са _с оригиналната_ конструкция.

    защо да не е?!

    Една картина като я реставрират, престава ли да бъде оригинална? Това че
    килерът примерно е превърнат в тоалетна, нищо не променя,
    или че са прокарани електричество и вода.

    Според мен -- да, престава.

    Както аз вече не съм с оригиналната си конструкция, дадена ми от майката
    природа.

    --
    «地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From N Kostoff@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 11 08:44:17 2021
    On 10.9.2021 г. 23:30, Радостина wrote:
    On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 5:49:21 AM UTC-7, N Kostoff wrote:
    On 10.9.2021 г. 9:08, Радостина wrote:
    On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 10:51:53 PM UTC-7, N Kostoff wrote:
    On 10.9.2021 г. 8:27, Радостина wrote:
    .....
    Не знам какво разбираш под оригинална конструкция.
    Някои са гредоред, някои са тухла. Напротив, прави им се топлоизолация.
    Например, това, че в такава къща няма баня и тоалетна.
    Всички са гредоред, някои с плет, други - с тухли.

    ИМА.
    Някои имат по две, че и по три.
    Обясняват, че тези къщи са реновирани.
    Значи, не са _с оригиналната_ конструкция. >>
    --
    _____
    НК

    защо да не е?!
    Една картина като я реставрират, престава ли да бъде оригинална
    Това че килерът примерно е превърнат в тоалетна, нищо не променя,
    или че са прокарани електричество и вода.


    Ако се променя вътрешната архитектура на къщата (а това е задължително,
    щом се добавя баня и тоалетна) - престава да бъде оригинална.


    --
    _____
    НК

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 11 12:05:33 2021
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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 12 01:06:41 2021
    On Sat, 11 Sep 2021 12:53:33 -0700, Радостина wrote:

    Ако килерът или складът е превърнат в баня, това
    не е промяна на архитектурата за мен.

    Всъщност е и в Бг се изисква съгласието на всички
    съседи с които този килер или склад граничат плюс
    съгласието на общото събрание плюс удобрен архитектурен
    план в обюината. Нема лабаво там законът

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chorbalan@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Sun Sep 12 01:02:50 2021
    On Sat, 11 Sep 2021 17:49:07 -0700, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    Ти непрекъснато си въобразяваш, че си нещо, което не си.

    Тъй де, комплексарка с ниско самочувствие, нали това и
    казах и аз. Ама тя веднага вдигна щита на "нищо не разбираш"..

    Възрожденските (в действително е по-равилно да ги наречем
    турските) къщи са непригодни за съвременния живот.

    Тя не е влизала в такава къща и не знае за тоталната
    липса на privacy в тях, за нея фасона/image/ е всичко.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 11 19:26:07 2021
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  • From Vedrin Jeliazkov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 12 02:01:16 2021
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  • From Chorbalan@21:1/5 to Vedrin Jeliazkov on Sun Sep 12 14:28:12 2021
    On Sun, 12 Sep 2021 02:01:16 -0700, Vedrin Jeliazkov wrote:

    масово да бива заобикаляно

    Имаш пред вид "игнорирано".
    Но това може да "ухапе" нарушителя по всяко време.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ivaylo Ivanov@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 13 13:29:35 2021
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 13 22:14:41 2021
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chorbalan@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 05:49:48 2021
    Оn Mon, 13 Sep 2021 22:14:41 -0700, Радостина wrote:

    естествено както и предполагах, нищо не разбра.

    Имаш 2-3 клишета които повтаряш като развален грамофон.
    Толкова си предвидима че вече си скучна...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?0KDQsNC00L7RgdGC0LjQvdCw?@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 20:39:51 2021
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)