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On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 14:25:46 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Аз също не го харесвам чобани, но проби на пазара.

Мислех че е гръцко. Става, ако няма какво друго.

Все пак, продължавам да твърдя, че американците не обичат кисело мляко.
Може да приготвят неща с него, но просто да ядат кисело мляко - не.

Така е. Ядат само боклуците в които има нишесте и какво ли не, като
"Danon" например, и предимно тези с някакъв контифюр в тях.

Ти и да го правиш, ти трябва качествено маслено прясно мляко, каквото тук няма.

На Trader Joe's не е лошо, а в Тексас има едно в стъклени буркана на
което пише "българско кисело мляко", прави се с жив бацил и е на
нивото на най-доброто което има в България, че и повече!

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:56:34 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Аз не помня кисело мляко в нещо друго освен стъклени буркани.

Нали уж си живяла в София, там буркани няма от поне от 1975-а.

През 60-те и прясното беше в стъклени буркани.

Шишета, с капачка от алуминиево фолио( както и бурканите )

Но вкиснало нито веднъж не ми се е случвало, то свършваше за часове.

Е, ти си все специална.. щото вкиснато или рядко/воднисто се случваше често.

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 20:40:21 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

има едно бъгарско кисело мляко дето съм виждала само в арабския магазин,
за мен то най-много се доближава до бъгарското
https://www.ralphs.com/p/karoun-bulgarian-style-cream-on-top-yoghurt/0079625210072?fulfillment=PICKUP&storecode=70300167&&cid=shp_adw_shopl_.ralphs_g_lia_shop_acq_evgn_ship_dairy+%26+eggs&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_P6dBhD1ARIsAAGI7HCyTLrP837sSHHmkPfDC35_o5zVPp7wn_

bTRGy2CLmujRthM61LlNUaAg0MEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.ralphs.com/p/karoun-bulgarian-whole-milk-yoghurt/0079625210071?fulfillment=PICKUP&storecode=70300167&&cid=shp_adw_shopl_.ralphs_g_lia_shop_acq_evgn_ship_dairy+%26+eggs&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_P6dBhD1ARIsAAGI7HC1XK-

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Karoun са арменци, млякото им става но това в Trade Joe's ми по-харесва.
Да не говориме за тексаското. Йвайло да ме прощава ама и в Бг едва ли
има по-хубаво мляко от него.

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:33:22 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Като дете във Варна продаваха много хубаво
кисело мляко, също в стъклени буркани, но в НРБ имаха проблеми с
хладилното пренасяне на храна, и киселото мляко често го продаваха
вкиснало.

и това го казва човек с претенции, че е молекулярен биолог?

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 11:43:31 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 9:22:10 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 20:40:21 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

има едно бъгарско кисело мляко дето съм виждала само в арабския магазин,
за мен то най-много се доближава до бъгарското
https://www.ralphs.com/p/karoun-bulgarian-style-cream-on-top-yoghurt/0079625210072?fulfillment=PICKUP&storecode=70300167&&cid=shp_adw_shopl_.ralphs_g_lia_shop_acq_evgn_ship_dairy+%26+eggs&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_P6dBhD1ARIsAAGI7HCyTLrP837sSHHmkPfDC35_

o5zVPp7wn_bTRGy2CLmujRthM61LlNUaAg0MEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.ralphs.com/p/karoun-bulgarian-whole-milk-yoghurt/0079625210071?fulfillment=PICKUP&storecode=70300167&&cid=shp_adw_shopl_.ralphs_g_lia_shop_acq_evgn_ship_dairy+%26+eggs&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_P6dBhD1ARIsAAGI7HC1XK-

N9dhIykNfv63jRQIHujfwadN9flQjc3dBKUH8sbck6GgM8FsaAhlnEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Karoun са арменци, млякото им става но това в Trade Joe's ми по-харесва.
Да не говориме за тексаското. Йвайло да ме прощава ама и в Бг едва ли
има по-хубаво мляко от него.

Е, опитах го снощи тексаското, на мен арменското ми харесва повече,
отделно е два пъти по-евтино

Я па ти!? $4.5 срещу $5.5 не е два пъти по-евтино.

и поне за мен има най-автентичният вкус.

То па при тебе кога нещо не беше наобратно..

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:51:46 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:41:49 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:33:22 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Като дете във Варна продаваха много хубаво кисело мляко, също в
стъклени буркани, но в НРБ имаха проблеми с хладилното пренасяне на
храна, и киселото мляко често го продаваха вкиснало.

и това го казва човек с претенции, че е молекулярен биолог?

Да.

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

Нищо не става, когато е пастьоризирано при +120 по целзий.

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:46:06 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

Нищо не става, когато е пастьоризирано при +120 по целзий.

ай ся, след няколко дена тогавашното мляко си вкисваше по дефиниция,
защото не беше пълно с консерванти, независимо от хладилните камиони или
хладилника в къщи, за разлика от сегашното, което държи седмици.

та е тъпо да се твърди, че млякото вкисвало поради липса или лоша
поддръжка на хладилна техника, но това е от обсесията на ивайло.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:02:56 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:46:06 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

Нищо не става, когато е пастьоризирано при +120 по целзий.

ай ся, след няколко дена тогавашното мляко си вкисваше по дефиниция,
защото не беше пълно с консерванти, независимо от хладилните камиони или
хладилника в къщи, за разлика от сегашното, което държи седмици.

та е тъпо да се твърди, че млякото вкисвало поради липса или лоша
поддръжка на хладилна техника, но това е от обсесията на ивайло.

Млякото беше лошо и с някаква добавена мазнина, която като изстинеше
се събираше всичката на повърхността и беше с лош вкус, имаше също
воднист вкус. Разликата с прясно издоеното беше фрапираща. което
сега изобщо не е така.

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 15:19:07 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 08:02:56 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:46:06 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

Нищо не става, когато е пастьоризирано при +120 по целзий.

ай ся, след няколко дена тогавашното мляко си вкисваше по дефиниция,
защото не беше пълно с консерванти, независимо от хладилните камиони
или хладилника в къщи, за разлика от сегашното, което държи седмици.

та е тъпо да се твърди, че млякото вкисвало поради липса или лоша
поддръжка на хладилна техника, но това е от обсесията на ивайло.

Млякото беше лошо и с някаква добавена мазнина, която като изстинеше се
събираше всичката на повърхността и беше с лош вкус, имаше също воднист
вкус. Разликата с прясно издоеното беше фрапираща. което сега изобщо не
е така.

за кое мляко говориш?

защото оставам с усещането, че нещо се отплесваме.

аз говоря единствено за това, че тогавашното мляко беше нормално да
ферментира след няколко дена. и съм написал защо е така и че това няма
нищо общо с хладилниците.

за качеството нищо не казвам, вие го обсъждате :)

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 11:36:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 2:46:09 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

Нищо не става, когато е пастьоризирано при +120 по целзий.

пастьоризирано КИСЕЛО мляко?! Хайде още един умник :-)))

пак избързваш значи :)

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:32:36 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 2:01:06 PM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 11:36:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 2:46:09 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

Нищо не става, когато е пастьоризирано при +120 по целзий.

пастьоризирано КИСЕЛО мляко?! Хайде още един умник :-)))

пак избързваш значи :)

защо? пастьоризира се прясно, не кисело. или греша?

не грешиш, но разваляш флейма :)

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 11:36:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 2:46:09 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:42:31 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

хвърли си дипломата някъде.

Нищо не става, когато е пастьоризирано при +120 по целзий.

пастьоризирано КИСЕЛО мляко?!
Хайде още един умник :-)))

Виж какво си писала горе: "и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!"

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 11:39:44 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

В София може и да е било лошо, в провинцията имаше краве, овче и биволско.
Да, трудно се намираше, но по принцип го имаше. Беше леко кисело, това е вярно, но аз пък такова го харесвам.

Петрушанке прясното мляко беше лошо навскъде.
По селата, т.е. извън София, нямаше и толкова, селяните идвахте да си
купувате сирене и тоалетна хартия от София и си заманавахте опасани с
ролки като партиани с патрондаши.

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 11:43:01 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Вчера отидох в арабския магазин, викам си, там ще е по-евтино.
НИЩО ПОДОБНО. Цените са като навсякъде другаде.
$7-$8 кисело мляко $6-$7 българското сирене на паунд.

Това кисело дето е $7.5 в Тексас е $5. Ама видях яйцата са по $6 за 12,
имало птичи грип та изморил кокошките, казват, та затова било така.

Трагедия.
Яе няма вече и безплатна храна, дават само чбълки, картофи и моркови.
Абе пак, няма да умреш от глад но...
Открих ново бъгарско мляко обаче. Адски е гъсто, обръщаш го с главата надолу и си седи,
и има каймак отгоре. https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325411570_1334195164022156_1627571247173265995_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=1nMMYzhw4uwAX8AArzd&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBT9tz2QanNOG5GykJk_GSO1Vog9H68PJB5VkSCcxDATQ&oe=

63C76B4C

А това за пръв път виждам, хубаво ли е?

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:58:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Честно казано не знам какво се опитваш да кажеш/инсинуираш.

Пак припява че тука е по-лошо отколкото е било в комунистическа България.

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 02:19:47 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:58:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Честно казано не знам какво се опитваш да кажеш/инсинуираш.

Пак припява че тука е по-лошо отколкото е било в комунистическа
България.

пак се пробваш нескопосано да манипулираш - никъде не съм говорил за там,
говоря за тук. какво беше и какво е сега. и показвам лъжите на ивайло.

и пак да повторя - никъде не съм сравнявал качеството на киселото мляко,
нито от тогава, нито от сега. толкова, кой разбрал, разбрал. който не е,
ще е за негова сметка.

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:58:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:42:35 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:51:46 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:41:49 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:33:22 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Като дете във Варна продаваха много хубаво кисело мляко, също в
стъклени буркани, но в НРБ имаха проблеми с хладилното пренасяне
на храна, и киселото мляко често го продаваха вкиснало.

и това го казва човек с претенции, че е молекулярен биолог?

Да.

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

Нищо му няма, дали е прясно или кисело, стига да не е седяло на стайна
темперетура през цялото време. Тук по закон (от над сто години) са
забранени всякакви добавки към прясното мляко. След като направя нова
партида кисело от него, и го сложа в хладиника, то не вкисва дори след
месеци (не че е оставало за повече от месец). Не говоря, да става малко
по-кисело с времето (естествено че става). Говоря за вкисване,
което се случваше в България в моето детство, когато направо те режеше.
Честно казано не знам какво се опитваш да кажеш/инсинуираш.

аз го казах много ясно. това, че не го разбираш е твой, а не мой проблем.

киселото мляко от едно време, ако не го изядеш до седмица, ставаше толкова
кисело, че не ставаше зя ядене. то и за това му викаха „вкиснало“. и на
прясното, и на киселото. и нямаше нищо общо с хладилниците, както ти
твърдиш.

сега разбра ли?

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:03:10 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 02:19:47 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:58:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Честно казано не знам какво се опитваш да кажеш/инсинуираш.

Пак припява че тука е по-лошо отколкото е било в комунистическа
България.

пак се пробваш нескопосано да манипулираш - никъде не съм говорил за там,
говоря за тук. какво беше и какво е сега. и показвам лъжите на ивайло.

Не ти бе, за Пернатка става дума.

и пак да повторя - никъде не съм сравнявал качеството на киселото мляко,
нито от тогава, нито от сега. толкова, кой разбрал, разбрал. който не е,
ще е за негова сметка.

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:13:48 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 6:06:19 PM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 11:39:44 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

В София може и да е било лошо, в провинцията имаше краве, овче и биволско.
Да, трудно се намираше, но по принцип го имаше. Беше леко кисело, това е вярно, но аз пък такова го харесвам.

Петрушанке прясното мляко беше лошо навскъде.
По селата, т.е. извън София, нямаше и толкова, селяните идвахте да си
купувате сирене и тоалетна хартия от София и си заманавахте опасани с
ролки като партиани с патрондаши.

Ти говориш за Люлин :-)

Не, говоря за селата. Като Стара Загора например.

а беше точно обратното, нашите роднини от София идваха в провинцията да си накупят неща.
Майка ми имаше и зайци, и кокошки, и място където имаше всякакви насаждения.
Ти откъде мислиш идваше млякото и сиренето в София? :-)

Точно де - хем произвеждаха мляко, хем нямаше за тях. Поради голямата
хубавиня в НРБ-то.

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 12:11:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Аз продължавам да настоявам, че основната причина беше липсата
на хладилен транспорт и/или работещо охлаждане в магазините.

Млякото се доставяше късно вечер в каси и престояваше на улицата
6-7 часа, което през лятото съвсем сигурно е спомагало вкисването.

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 12:11:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:01:02 AM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:58:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:42:35 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:51:46 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:41:49 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:33:22 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Като дете във Варна продаваха много хубаво кисело мляко, също в
стъклени буркани, но в НРБ имаха проблеми с хладилното
пренасяне на храна, и киселото мляко често го продаваха
вкиснало.

и това го казва човек с претенции, че е молекулярен биолог?

Да.

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

Нищо му няма, дали е прясно или кисело, стига да не е седяло на
стайна темперетура през цялото време. Тук по закон (от над сто
години) са забранени всякакви добавки към прясното мляко. След като
направя нова партида кисело от него, и го сложа в хладиника, то не
вкисва дори след месеци (не че е оставало за повече от месец). Не
говоря, да става малко по-кисело с времето (естествено че става).
Говоря за вкисване, което се случваше в България в моето детство,
когато направо те режеше. Честно казано не знам какво се опитваш да
кажеш/инсинуираш.

аз го казах много ясно. това, че не го разбираш е твой, а не мой
проблем.

киселото мляко от едно време, ако не го изядеш до седмица, ставаше
толкова кисело, че не ставаше зя ядене. то и за това му викаха
„вкиснало“. и на прясното, и на киселото. и нямаше нищо общо с
хладилниците, както ти твърдиш.

сега разбра ли?

Т.е. тезата ти е, че в НРБ са позвали скапана технология за производство
на кисело мляко, така ли да го разбирам? Защото както написах, ако
изпозваш елементарна технология, каквато аз ползвам вкъщи, и елементарни

не, тезата ми е, че вкисването на киселото мляко няма нищо общо с
хладилника ти. толкова, останалите ти полюции не ме интересуват.

познания по микробиология, каквито се предполага, че имам, се получава
кисело мляко, което издържа поне месец без да превкисва (в хладилни
условия). Аз продължавам да настоявам, че основната причина беше липсата
на хладилен транспорт и/или работещо охлаждане в магазините. Между
другото, проблема с превкисването беше много по-сериозен в провинцията
(примерно Варна отколкото в София (поне към края на 80-те), където не
помня да съм попадал на превкиснало кисело мляко в магазин (или в
студентски стол).

можеш да продължаваш да настояваш за каквото и да е, имаш моето
разрешението да го правиш, само ще ти напомня, че млекокомбинати имаше във
всеки окръжен град.

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 15:13:04 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:03:10 -0000 (UTC), Nick wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 02:19:47 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:58:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Честно казано не знам какво се опитваш да кажеш/инсинуираш.

Пак припява че тука е по-лошо отколкото е било в комунистическа
България.

пак се пробваш нескопосано да манипулираш - никъде не съм говорил за
там, говоря за тук. какво беше и какво е сега. и показвам лъжите на
ивайло.

Не ти бе, за Пернатка става дума.

е, така както си отговорил на ивайло, излизаше че е за мен.

ок, разбрах те.

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:07:45 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Имаше много неща в провинцията, които ги нямаше в София,

Имаше - селяни :-)

Дефицитът, моето момче, започна някъде средата на 80-те.

Тогава почна тежкия дефицит. Иначе все нямаше нещо..

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:01:48 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Тези с ролките са точно от Люлин.

Глупости!

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 15:48:07 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 5:57:11 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 12:11:31 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 1:01:02 AM UTC-8, Nick wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 14:58:50 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:42:35 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:51:46 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:41:49 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 18:33:22 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Като дете във Варна продаваха много хубаво кисело мляко,
също в стъклени буркани, но в НРБ имаха проблеми с
хладилното пренасяне на храна, и киселото мляко често го
продаваха вкиснало.

и това го казва човек с претенции, че е молекулярен биолог?

Да.

и който не знае какво става с естественото мляко след три дена?!

Нищо му няма, дали е прясно или кисело, стига да не е седяло на
стайна темперетура през цялото време. Тук по закон (от над сто
години) са забранени всякакви добавки към прясното мляко. След
като направя нова партида кисело от него, и го сложа в хладиника,
то не вкисва дори след месеци (не че е оставало за повече от
месец). Не говоря, да става малко по-кисело с времето (естествено
че става). Говоря за вкисване, което се случваше в България в
моето детство, когато направо те режеше. Честно казано не знам
какво се опитваш да кажеш/инсинуираш.

аз го казах много ясно. това, че не го разбираш е твой, а не мой
проблем.

киселото мляко от едно време, ако не го изядеш до седмица, ставаше
толкова кисело, че не ставаше зя ядене. то и за това му викаха
„вкиснало“. и на прясното, и на киселото. и нямаше нищо общо с
хладилниците, както ти твърдиш.

сега разбра ли?

Т.е. тезата ти е, че в НРБ са позвали скапана технология за
производство на кисело мляко, така ли да го разбирам? Защото както
написах, ако изпозваш елементарна технология, каквато аз ползвам
вкъщи, и елементарни

не, тезата ми е, че вкисването на киселото мляко няма нищо общо с
хладилника ти.

??
Съвсем изперка.

изперкалият си ти, отдавна съм ти казал, че си прост буквалист, който даже
не може да чете с разбиране и който, както се оказва, не помни какво е
писал само преди няколко пращулки.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:26:20 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

80-те, нито в Дървеница, нито в центъра на София е имало дефицит на тока.
Чух, че на другаде са го спирали в София.

От село режимът в София не се е виждал. А си го имаше, през 2 часа има-няма,
мисля 2 или 3 ззими беше така.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 10:47:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:56:05 AM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:26:20 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

80-те, нито в Дървеница, нито в центъра на София е имало дефицит на тока.
Чух, че на другаде са го спирали в София. >> От село режимът в София не се е виждал. А си го имаше, през 2 часа има-няма,

мисля 2 или 3 ззими беше така.

нещо и ти като Ивайло имаш проблеми с четенето. :-)
Просто София изпита дефицита чак през 80-те. В провинцията винаги го е имало.

Не е верно. Просто в София дефицитът беше по-малък.

аз живеех в центъра на София втората половина на 80-те, в Дървеница първата половина.
никога не са го спирали на тези места.

Аз съм роден в центъра и знам по-добре от тебе. Питай и Милко да ти каже,
той е горе-долу съсед.

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:15:39 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

Какво да ми каже, какво значение има къде си роден?
Говорим за 80-те. В самия център никога не са го спирали.

Спираха го. Баш при НДКто в малкоте улички.

Това значи всички административни сгради да останат без ток, мумията също.
НЕ СА го спирали там където бях аз.

Там където щеше да засегне 'наши другари' не са, което не покрива целия център.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:15:39 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 10:47:00 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:56:05 AM UTC-8, chorbalan wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:26:20 -0800 (PST), Радостина wrote:

80-те, нито в Дървеница, нито в центъра на София е имало дефицит
на тока

.

Чух, че на другаде са го спирали в София.

От село режимът в София не се е виждал. А си го имаше, през 2 часа
има-няма, мисля 2 или 3 ззими беше така.

нещо и ти като Ивайло имаш проблеми с четенето. :-)
Просто София изпита дефицита чак през 80-те. В провинцията винаги го
е имало.

Не е верно. Просто в София дефицитът беше по-малък.

Говорим за тока бе.

аз живеех в центъра на София втората половина на 80-те, в Дървеница
първата половина.
никога не са го спирали на тези места.

Аз съм роден в центъра и знам по-добре от тебе. Питай и Милко да ти
каже, той е горе-долу съсед.

Какво да ми каже, какво значение има къде си роден?
Говорим за 80-те. В самия център никога не са го спирали.
Това значи всички административни сгради да останат без ток, мумията
също.

НЕ СА го спирали там където бях аз. Но софичнци едва 80-те изпитаха
режим на тока, а в провинцията това си беше ежедневие откакто се помня.

абе режим на тока имаше, вече бях семеен, та значи е било някъде към 1985,
но не помня, като чорби колко време беше, признавам си.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:48:47 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Аз дори не помня тоалетна хартия в детството си. Вестници .

Именно. Продаваха и една "шкурка" - гланцирана от едната страна и груба
от другата. Всъщност дори тоалетната хартия на ролки беше боклук в
сравнение със стандартната тук.

е, дойде си на думата, след толкова изписани напразно думи 8-)

нали помниш - първо хапчетата, после преглед при специалист.

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:16:27 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

ЦУМ винаги беше пълен, на пазарите имаше всичко.

"Пълен" с какво? Писал съм вече, че 88-ма (мисля) бях на студентска
бригада като хамалин в снабдяването на ЦУМ. Когато докарваха дефицитна
стока (да речем цветни телевизори "Велико Търново") мълвата веднага
тръгваше и набързо се събираше опашка докато не ги опоскат всичките. За
Българските стандарти ЦУМ беше рай. Погледнат отвън (например сравнен с
кой да е от магазините в Белград по същото време) изглеждаше плачевен.
Но е вярно, че хората от провинцията ходеха там да пазаруват за
джунджурии.

а стига де, хамалин в цум? не трябваше ли тогава да си на бригада в
консервената фабрика в петрич?

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:00:04 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:16:27 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

ЦУМ винаги беше пълен, на пазарите имаше всичко.

"Пълен" с какво? Писал съм вече, че 88-ма (мисля) бях на студентска
бригада като хамалин в снабдяването на ЦУМ. Когато докарваха
дефицитна стока (да речем цветни телевизори "Велико Търново") мълвата
веднага тръгваше и набързо се събираше опашка докато не ги опоскат
всичките. За Българските стандарти ЦУМ беше рай. Погледнат отвън
(например сравнен с кой да е от магазините в Белград по същото време)
изглеждаше плачевен. Но е вярно, че хората от провинцията ходеха там
да пазаруват за джунджурии.

а стига де, хамалин в цум? не трябваше ли тогава да си на бригада в
консервената фабрика в петрич?

"Кой както се уреди" - т.е. не. Мисля, че беше 88 защото сякаш беше
свързано с годишнината на университета. Иначе есента на 89 пак бях на
бригада в София (този път със сигурност) и може да било тогава (даже е
по-вероятно).

аха, значи репресиран от народната власт.

ти на колко години тръгна на училище?

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:26:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 1:08:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:00:04 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:16:27 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

ЦУМ винаги беше пълен, на пазарите имаше всичко.

"Пълен" с какво? Писал съм вече, че 88-ма (мисля) бях на
студентска бригада като хамалин в снабдяването на ЦУМ. Когато
докарваха дефицитна стока (да речем цветни телевизори "Велико
Търново") мълвата веднага тръгваше и набързо се събираше опашка
докато не ги опоскат всичките. За Българските стандарти ЦУМ беше
рай. Погледнат отвън (например сравнен с кой да е от магазините в
Белград по същото време) изглеждаше плачевен. Но е вярно, че
хората от провинцията ходеха там да пазаруват за джунджурии.

а стига де, хамалин в цум? не трябваше ли тогава да си на бригада в
консервената фабрика в петрич?

"Кой както се уреди" - т.е. не. Мисля, че беше 88 защото сякаш беше
свързано с годишнината на университета. Иначе есента на 89 пак бях на
бригада в София (този път със сигурност) и може да било тогава (даже
е по-вероятно).

аха, значи репресиран от народната власт.

??

какво, не помниш какво си писал в тази група последните 20 години? или
сега ще започнеш да ни убеждаваш, че само майка ти е била репресирана?

и не помниш на колко години си тръгнал на училище?!

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«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:57:08 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:34:08 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:26:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 1:08:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:00:04 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:16:27 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

ЦУМ винаги беше пълен, на пазарите имаше всичко.

"Пълен" с какво? Писал съм вече, че 88-ма (мисля) бях на
студентска бригада като хамалин в снабдяването на ЦУМ. Когато
докарваха дефицитна стока (да речем цветни телевизори "Велико
Търново") мълвата веднага тръгваше и набързо се събираше опашка
докато не ги опоскат всичките. За Българските стандарти ЦУМ
беше рай. Погледнат отвън (например сравнен с кой да е от
магазините в Белград по същото време) изглеждаше плачевен. Но е
вярно, че хората от провинцията ходеха там да пазаруват за
джунджурии.

а стига де, хамалин в цум? не трябваше ли тогава да си на бригада
в консервената фабрика в петрич?

"Кой както се уреди" - т.е. не. Мисля, че беше 88 защото сякаш
беше свързано с годишнината на университета. Иначе есента на 89
пак бях на бригада в София (този път със сигурност) и може да било
тогава (даже е по-вероятно).

аха, значи репресиран от народната власт.

??

какво, не помниш какво си писал в тази група последните 20 години? или
сега ще започнеш да ни убеждаваш, че само майка ти е била репресирана?

Какви са тези глупости? Би ли посочил къде съм писал, че съм бил лично
репресиран (т.е. повече от обикновения българин)?

леле, ама ти лично ли смяташ, че си репресиран? аз мислех, че е само майка
ти.

и не помниш на колко години си тръгнал на училище?!

Кой каза, че не помня??

ами не споделяш, явно не помниш.

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 14:26:15 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 5:08:35 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:57:08 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:34:08 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:26:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 1:08:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:00:04 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:16:27 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

ЦУМ винаги беше пълен, на пазарите имаше всичко.

"Пълен" с какво? Писал съм вече, че 88-ма (мисля) бях на
студентска бригада като хамалин в снабдяването на ЦУМ.
Когато докарваха дефицитна стока (да речем цветни телевизори
"Велико Търново") мълвата веднага тръгваше и набързо се
събираше опашка докато не ги опоскат всичките. За
Българските стандарти ЦУМ беше рай. Погледнат отвън
(например сравнен с кой да е от магазините в Белград по
същото време) изглеждаше плачевен. Но е вярно, че хората от
провинцията ходеха там да пазаруват за джунджурии.

а стига де, хамалин в цум? не трябваше ли тогава да си на
бригада в консервената фабрика в петрич?

"Кой както се уреди" - т.е. не. Мисля, че беше 88 защото сякаш
беше свързано с годишнината на университета. Иначе есента на 89
пак бях на бригада в София (този път със сигурност) и може да
било тогава (даже е по-вероятно).

аха, значи репресиран от народната власт.

??

какво, не помниш какво си писал в тази група последните 20 години?
или сега ще започнеш да ни убеждаваш, че само майка ти е била
репресирана?

Какви са тези глупости? Би ли посочил къде съм писал, че съм бил
лично репресиран (т.е. повече от обикновения българин)?

леле, ама ти лично ли смяташ, че си репресиран? аз мислех, че е само
майка ти.

Пък аз си мислех, че можеш да четеш, но съм сгрешил.

е, и аз мислех, че можеш да разбираш писан текст, но явно и аз съм
сгрешил.

и не помниш на колко години си тръгнал на училище?!

Кой каза, че не помня??

ами не споделяш, явно не помниш.

??

стана ми любопитно как така на 18 години ти си бил на студентски бригади,
а не в армията. имам някакво обяснение и реших да попитам, но ти мълчиш
като комунист на разпит, което само по себе си е отговор.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:20:44 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 5:40:38 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 14:26:15 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 5:08:35 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:57:08 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:34:08 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:26:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 1:08:25 AM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:00:04 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:16:27 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

ЦУМ винаги беше пълен, на пазарите имаше всичко.

"Пълен" с какво? Писал съм вече, че 88-ма (мисля) бях на
студентска бригада като хамалин в снабдяването на ЦУМ.
Когато докарваха дефицитна стока (да речем цветни
телевизори "Велико Търново") мълвата веднага тръгваше и
набързо се събираше опашка докато не ги опоскат всичките.
За Българските стандарти ЦУМ беше рай. Погледнат отвън
(например сравнен с кой да е от магазините в Белград по
същото време) изглеждаше плачевен. Но е вярно, че хората
от провинцията ходеха там да пазаруват за джунджурии.

а стига де, хамалин в цум? не трябваше ли тогава да си на
бригада в консервената фабрика в петрич?

"Кой както се уреди" - т.е. не. Мисля, че беше 88 защото
сякаш беше свързано с годишнината на университета. Иначе
есента на 89 пак бях на бригада в София (този път със
сигурност) и може да било тогава (даже е по-вероятно).

аха, значи репресиран от народната власт.

??

какво, не помниш какво си писал в тази група последните 20
години?

или сега ще започнеш да ни убеждаваш, че само майка ти е била
репресирана?

Какви са тези глупости? Би ли посочил къде съм писал, че съм бил
лично репресиран (т.е. повече от обикновения българин)?

леле, ама ти лично ли смяташ, че си репресиран? аз мислех, че е само
майка ти.

Пък аз си мислех, че можеш да четеш, но съм сгрешил.

е, и аз мислех, че можеш да разбираш писан текст, но явно и аз съм
сгрешил.

и не помниш на колко години си тръгнал на училище?!

Кой каза, че не помня??

ами не споделяш, явно не помниш.

??

стана ми любопитно как така на 18 години ти си бил на студентски
бригади, а не в армията.

Бях на 19, не 18. А щом толкова искаш да знаеш, имам генетично

говорим за 1987, а не за 1988, но както и да е.

заболяване, "Таласамия минор", и бях отложен за военна служба. По прицип
балът ми беше достатъчен да вляза в моята специалност от квотата на
отложените, за кяото вече писах. В моя випуск от около 70 момчета
най-малко 30 не бяха служили (предимно защото бяха от въпросната квота).

благодаря, ясно е защо си бил отложен.

имам някакво обяснение и реших да попитам, но ти мълчиш като комунист
на разпит, което само по себе си е отговор.

Нямах предства, че се интересуваш от това (нито мога да предположа
защо).

аз самият бях отложен, макар и по други причини, за това ми стана
любопитно, за това и попитах.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 10:28:51 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

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On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 5:40:38 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

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On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 5:08:35 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

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On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 3:34:08 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:26:25 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 1:08:25 AM UTC-5, Nick
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 15:00:04 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-5, Nick
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:16:27 -0800 (PST), Ivaylo Ivanov
wrote:

ЦУМ винаги беше пълен, на пазарите имаше всичко.

"Пълен" с какво? Писал съм вече, че 88-ма (мисля) бях
на студентска бригада като хамалин в снабдяването на
ЦУМ. Когато докарваха дефицитна стока (да речем цветни
телевизори "Велико Търново") мълвата веднага тръгваше
и набързо се събираше опашка докато не ги опоскат
всичките.

За Българските стандарти ЦУМ беше рай. Погледнат отвън
(например сравнен с кой да е от магазините в Белград
по същото време) изглеждаше плачевен. Но е вярно, че
хората от провинцията ходеха там да пазаруват за
джунджурии.

а стига де, хамалин в цум? не трябваше ли тогава да си
на бригада в консервената фабрика в петрич?

"Кой както се уреди" - т.е. не. Мисля, че беше 88 защото
сякаш беше свързано с годишнината на университета. Иначе
есента на 89 пак бях на бригада в София (този път със
сигурност) и може да било тогава (даже е по-вероятно).

аха, значи репресиран от народната власт.

??

какво, не помниш какво си писал в тази група последните 20
години?

или сега ще започнеш да ни убеждаваш, че само майка ти е била
репресирана?

Какви са тези глупости? Би ли посочил къде съм писал, че съм
бил лично репресиран (т.е. повече от обикновения българин)?

леле, ама ти лично ли смяташ, че си репресиран? аз мислех, че е
само майка ти.

Пък аз си мислех, че можеш да четеш, но съм сгрешил.

е, и аз мислех, че можеш да разбираш писан текст, но явно и аз съм
сгрешил.

и не помниш на колко години си тръгнал на училище?!

Кой каза, че не помня??

ами не споделяш, явно не помниш.

??

стана ми любопитно как така на 18 години ти си бил на студентски
бригади, а не в армията.

Бях на 19, не 18. А щом толкова искаш да знаеш, имам генетично

говорим за 1987, а не за 1988, но както и да е.

Кога сме говорили за 1987?

ти не си ли ходил на нулевата бригада? преди първи курс?

а за годината - мярна ми се някъде, че се чудеше, но явно го е споменал
някой друг.

както и да е, вече не е толкова важно

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