• Exclusive: Documents Reveal Erik Prince's $10 Billion Plan to Make Weap

    From Nick@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 29 17:28:48 2022
    още руска пропаганда за обсебения:

    Exclusive: Documents Reveal Erik Prince's $10 Billion Plan to Make Weapons
    and Create a Private Army in Ukraine

    By Simon Shuster/Kyiv July 7, 2021 3:12 PM EDT

    As the party got seated inside a private karaoke room on the second floor,
    Igor Novikov, who was then a top adviser to Ukraine’s President, remembers feeling a little nervous. He had done some reading about Blackwater, the private military company Prince had founded in 1997, and he knew about the massacre its troops had perpetrated during the U.S. war in Iraq. Coming
    face to face that night with the world’s most prominent soldier of
    fortune, Novikov remembers thinking: “What does this guy want from us?”

    It soon became clear that Prince wanted a lot from Ukraine. According to interviews with close associates and confidential documents detailing his ambitions, Prince hoped to hire Ukraine’s combat veterans into a private military company. Prince also wanted a big piece of Ukraine’s military- industrial complex, including factories that make engines for fighter jets
    and helicopters. His full plan, dated June 2020 and obtained exclusively
    by TIME this spring, includes a “roadmap” for the creation of a “vertically integrated aviation defense consortium” that could bring $10 billion in revenues and investment.



    This account of Prince’s ambitions in Ukraine is based on interviews with seven sources, including current and former U.S. and Ukrainian officials
    as well as people who worked directly with Prince to try to realize his aspirations in Ukraine. Those business plans, which have not been
    previously reported, were confirmed by four of the sources on both sides
    of the negotiations, all of whom recalled meeting in person with Prince
    last year to discuss them. The documents describe a series of ventures
    that would give Prince a pivotal role in Ukraine’s military industry and
    its ongoing conflict with Russia, _which has taken more than 14,000 lives_ _since it began seven years ago_.



    At least one of Prince’s offers to Ukraine appeared to be in line with
    U.S. geopolitical interests. As the Wall Street Journal first reported in
    Nov. 2019, Prince has been competing against a Chinese firm to buy a
    Ukrainian factory called Motor Sich, which produces advanced aircraft
    engines. China sought those engines to develop its air force. The U.S., concerned about the rapid growth of the Chinese military, has long urged Ukraine not to complete the sale. Prince emerged as the American
    alternative, offering to save the factory from China’s clutches.



    https://time.com/6076035/erik-prince-ukraine-private-army/

    останалото оставям на обсебения да прочете сам. интересното в публикацията
    не е толкова действията на американеца, колкото описанието на обстановката
    в украйна по онова време.

    нямам идея какъв е авторът на публикацията, дали е руски агент за влияние
    или е обикновен полезен идиот, както и нямам представа за наукометричните
    му показатели.

    оставям на ивайло да ни осветли по тези въпроси, понеже знам, че те живо
    го интересуват.

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Ivaylo Ivanov on Thu Jun 30 04:29:26 2022
    On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 18:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

    On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:28:50 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

    още руска пропаганда за обсебения:

    Exclusive: Documents Reveal Erik Prince's $10 Billion Plan to Make
    Weapons and Create a Private Army in Ukraine

    By Simon Shuster/Kyiv July 7, 2021 3:12 PM EDT

    As the party got seated inside a private karaoke room on the second
    floor, Igor Novikov, who was then a top adviser to Ukraine’s President,
    remembers feeling a little nervous. He had done some reading about
    Blackwater, the private military company Prince had founded in 1997,
    and he knew about the massacre its troops had perpetrated during the
    U.S. war in Iraq. Coming face to face that night with the world’s most
    prominent soldier of fortune, Novikov remembers thinking: “What does
    this guy want from us?”

    It soon became clear that Prince wanted a lot from Ukraine. According
    to interviews with close associates and confidential documents
    detailing his ambitions, Prince hoped to hire Ukraine’s combat veterans
    into a private military company. Prince also wanted a big piece of
    Ukraine’s military-industrial complex, including factories that make
    engines for fighter jets and helicopters. His full plan, dated June
    2020 and obtained exclusively by TIME this spring, includes a “roadmap” >> for the creation of a “vertically integrated aviation defense
    consortium” that could bring $10 billion in revenues and investment.

    Много планове, малко пари.

    нали знаеш приказката за триците и маймуните?



    This account of Prince’s ambitions in Ukraine is based on interviews
    with seven sources, including current and former U.S. and Ukrainian
    officials as well as people who worked directly with Prince to try to
    realize his aspirations in Ukraine. Those business plans, which have
    not been previously reported, were confirmed by four of the sources on
    both sides of the negotiations, all of whom recalled meeting in person
    with Prince last year to discuss them. The documents describe a series
    of ventures that would give Prince a pivotal role in Ukraine’s military
    industry and its ongoing conflict with Russia, _which has taken more
    than 14,000 lives_
    _since it began seven years ago_.



    At least one of Prince’s offers to Ukraine appeared to be in line with
    U.S. geopolitical interests. As the Wall Street Journal first reported
    in Nov. 2019, Prince has been competing against a Chinese firm to buy a
    Ukrainian factory called Motor Sich, which produces advanced aircraft
    engines. China sought those engines to develop its air force. The U.S.,
    concerned about the rapid growth of the Chinese military, has long
    urged Ukraine not to complete the sale. Prince emerged as the American
    alternative, offering to save the factory from China’s clutches.



    https://time.com/6076035/erik-prince-ukraine-private-army/

    останалото оставям на обсебения да прочете сам. интересното в
    публикацията не е толкова действията на американеца, колкото описанието
    на обстановката в украйна по онова време.

    нямам идея какъв е авторът на публикацията, дали е руски агент за
    влияние или е обикновен полезен идиот

    Не виждам причини да мисля, че е едното или другото. Всъщност не
    разбирам защо изобщо си пуснал статията. А що се отнася до Саймън Шустър
    - доколкото мога да преценя е про-украински американски журналист с
    еврейски-съветски произход имигрирал в САЩ година преди мен.

    написал съм ясно защо съм я пуснал.

    а на теб причини да мислиш нещо не ти трябват.

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