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On Tue, 24 May 2022 18:56:33 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Ивайлооо, да слагаме ли ръквици и маски? -)

това не е за шега, честно казано.

по-притеснително е дали това е вярно:

Monkeypox is a rare disease caused by infection with the monkeypox virus.

Most cases have been in Africa. The risk of catching monkeypox in the UK
is very low.

It's usually a mild illness that will get better on its own without
treatment. Some people can develop more serious symptoms, so patients with monkeypox in the UK are cared for in specialist hospitals.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211102221822/https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/ monkeypox/

---

It's very uncommon to get monkeypox from a person with the infection
because it does not spread easily between people. But it can be spread
through:

о touching clothing, bedding or towels used by someone with the
monkeypox rash

о touching monkeypox skin blisters or scabs

о the coughs or sneezes of a person with the monkeypox rash

https://web.archive.org/web/20220519023610/https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/ monkeypox/

---

You can catch monkeypox from an infected animal if you're bitten or you
touch its blood, body fluids, spots, blisters or scabs.

It may also be possible to catch monkeypox by eating meat from an infected animal that has not been cooked thoroughly, or by touching other products
from infected animals (such as animal skin or fur).

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/monkeypox/

на нови изследвания ли се дължи тази промяна или на нещо друго?

да не кажат после обсебените от ко

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On Wed, 25 May 2022 05:25:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 6:56:34 PM UTC-7, Радостина wrote:

Ивайлооо, да слагаме ли ръквици и маски? -)

Не. Просто спрете да шибате маймуни и всичко ще ви е наред.

леле, да разбираме ли, че ти вече си спрял да го правиш? и си нервен нещо
от това?

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Wed, 25 May 2022 05:25:40 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 6:56:34 PM UTC-7, Радостина wrote:

Ивайлооо, да слагаме ли ръквици и маски? -)

Не. Просто спрете да шибате маймуни и всичко ще ви е наред.

В UK имало много случаи и го обясняват с голямата черна емиграция
там, много народ идва или си ходи редовно до африка и го носи
обратно. Който е бил в контакт - 21 дена самоизолация!?

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 19:51:13 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:37:28 PM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2022 18:56:33 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Ивайлооо, да слагаме ли ръквици и маски? -)

това не е за шега, честно казано.

по-притеснително е дали това е вярно:

Monkeypox is a rare disease caused by infection with the monkeypox
virus.

Most cases have been in Africa. The risk of catching monkeypox in the
UK is very low.

It's usually a mild illness that will get better on its own without
treatment. Some people can develop more serious symptoms, so patients
with monkeypox in the UK are cared for in specialist hospitals.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211102221822/https://www.nhs.uk/ conditions/monkeypox/

---

It's very uncommon to get monkeypox from a person with the infection
because it does not spread easily between people. But it can be spread
through:

о touching clothing, bedding or towels used by someone with the
monkeypox rash

о touching monkeypox skin blisters or scabs

о the coughs or sneezes of a person with the monkeypox rash

https://web.archive.org/web/20220519023610/https://www.nhs.uk/ conditions/monkeypox/

---

You can catch monkeypox from an infected animal if you're bitten or you
touch its blood, body fluids, spots, blisters or scabs.

It may also be possible to catch monkeypox by eating meat from an
infected animal that has not been cooked thoroughly, or by touching
other products from infected animals (such as animal skin or fur).

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/monkeypox/

на нови изследвания ли се дължи тази промяна или на нещо друго?

да не кажат после обсебените от коронавируса, че пак се вихрят някакви
конспиративни теории?

аргументът, че вярвам на такива теории е добре известен и също толкова
неприеман.

Мангъров каза, че е почти невъзможно да се заразиш с маймунската шарка.
Те отсега нататък все с нови вируси ще ни плашат.

не знам дали е възможно, говори се, че не е опасна за ваксинираните срещу
едра шарка, а това са всички, родени преди 1980.

за мен са странни тези промени в дефинициите, за които е споменато по-
горе. по същия начин се промениха дефинициите за ваксини и имунитет покрай
истерията с корона вируса.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Fri, 27 May 2022 19:51:13 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Мангъров каза,

На тоя нещастник ли слушаш ?

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On Sat, 28 May 2022 09:46:22 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 7:51:13 PM UTC-7, Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:37:28 PM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2022 18:56:33 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Ивайлооо, да слагаме ли ръквици и маски? -)

това не е за шега, честно казано.

по-притеснително е дали това е вярно:

Monkeypox is a rare disease caused by infection with the monkeypox
virus.

Most cases have been in Africa. The risk of catching monkeypox in the
UK is very low.

It's usually a mild illness that will get better on its own without
treatment. Some people can develop more serious symptoms, so patients
with monkeypox in the UK are cared for in specialist hospitals.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211102221822/https://www.nhs.uk/ conditions/monkeypox/

---

It's very uncommon to get monkeypox from a person with the infection
because it does not spread easily between people. But it can be
spread through:

о touching clothing, bedding or towels used by someone with the
monkeypox rash

о touching monkeypox skin blisters or scabs

о the coughs or sneezes of a person with the monkeypox rash

https://web.archive.org/web/20220519023610/https://www.nhs.uk/ conditions/monkeypox/

---

You can catch monkeypox from an infected animal if you're bitten or
you touch its blood, body fluids, spots, blisters or scabs.

It may also be possible to catch monkeypox by eating meat from an
infected animal that has not been cooked thoroughly, or by touching
other products from infected animals (such as animal skin or fur).

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/monkeypox/

на нови изследвания ли се дължи тази промяна или на нещо друго?

да не кажат после обсебените от коронавируса, че пак се вихрят
някакви конспиративни теории?

аргументът, че вярвам на такива теории е добре известен и също
толкова неприеман.

Мангъров каза, че е почти невъзможно да се заразиш с маймунската шарка.
Те отсега нататък все с нови вируси ще ни плашат.

Kои са "те" и кои сте "вие", които се страхувате от маймунската шарка?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118883/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

там ще намериш отговор на въпроса „кои са те?“ 8-)

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On Sun, 29 May 2022 09:59:14 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Мангъров каза, че е почти невъзможно да се заразиш с маймунската
шарка.

Те отсега нататък все с нови вируси ще ни плашат.

Kои са "те" и кои сте "вие", които се страхувате от маймунската
шарка?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118883/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

там ще намериш отговор на въпроса „кои са те?“ 8-)

Между другото страхотен филм, заедно с Wag the dog, Painted veil,
все филми които се опитваха да ни кажат нещо....

е, сега остава само обсебеният да ме послуша и да го изгледа. надявам се,
че все още може да го намери в кварталната видеотека 8-)

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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On Sun, 29 May 2022 11:52:37 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 10:16:06 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 29 May 2022 09:59:14 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Мангъров каза, че е почти невъзможно да се заразиш с маймунската
шарка.

Те отсега нататък все с нови вируси ще ни плашат.

Kои са "те" и кои сте "вие", които се страхувате от маймунската
шарка?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118883/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

там ще намериш отговор на въпроса „кои са те?“ 8-)

Между другото страхотен филм, заедно с Wag the dog, Painted veil,
все филми които се опитваха да ни кажат нещо....

е, сега остава само обсебеният да ме послуша и да го изгледа. надявам
се, че все още може да го намери в кварталната видеотека 8-)

Гледам го в момента. Да си го припомня. Тръпки ме побиват.
В началото говори за флуор във водата. Явно 1997 това все още е било
конспиративна теория. Днес се знае че слагат флуор във водата.

Казват че е да предотвратява разваляне на зъбите, но в този филм Джери
казва че е да те направи безчувствен и покорен -). Истината е, че
флуорът поврежда костите.

Също говори за чипирането. Че засега е за кучета и котки, но един ден ще
е за хората.

е, значи лесно ще го намери. остава и да го изгледа.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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Am 29.05.2022 um 20:52 schrieb Радостина:

On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 10:16:06 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Sun, 29 May 2022 09:59:14 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Мангъров каза, че е почти невъзможно да се заразиш с маймунската
шарка.

Те отсега нататък все с нови вируси ще ни плашат.

Kои са "те" и кои сте "вие", които се страхувате от маймунската
шарка?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118883/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

там ще намериш отговор на въпроса „кои са те?“ 8-)

Между другото страхотен филм, заедно с Wag the dog, Painted veil,
все филми които се опитваха да ни кажат нещо....

е, сега остава само обсебеният да ме послуша и да го изгледа. надявам се,
че все още може да го намери в кварталната видеотека 8-)

Гледам го в момента. Да си го припомня. Тръпки ме побиват.
В началото говори за флуор във водата. Явно 1997 това все още е било
конспиративна теория. Днес се знае че слагат флуор във водата.
Казват че е да предотвратява разваляне на зъбите, но в този филм Джери
казва че е да те направи безчувствен и покорен -). Истината е, че флуорът
поврежда костите.
Също говори за чипирането. Че засега е за кучета и котки, но един ден ще е за хората.

Това с флуора беше практика десетки години в ГДР. Наистина хората от
60-те,70-те,80-те години родени и живяли там са с по-здрави зъби от
западняците. Има статистики

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sun, 29 May 2022 08:25:01 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

3. Ще премахнат кеша, ще има само "виртуални" пари и ще имат пълен контрол
над финансите ти, при положение че се провиниш, протстираш и тн. ще
замръзяват сметките ти.

Това и сега се практикува в някаква степен..

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On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 04:15:57 -0000 (UTC), chorbalan wrote:

On Sun, 29 May 2022 08:25:01 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

3. Ще премахнат кеша, ще има само "виртуални" пари и ще имат пълен
контрол над финансите ти, при положение че се провиниш, протстираш и
тн. ще замръзяват сметките ти.

Това и сега се практикува в някаква степен..

така е, но тенденцията е към засилване (imho).

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On Tue, 31 May 2022 15:33:56 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 7:58:38 AM UTC-7, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:51:58 AM UTC-4, Rumen wrote:

...

Това с флуора беше практика десетки години в ГДР. Наистина хората от
60-те,70-те,80-те години родени и живяли там са с по-здрави зъби от
западняците. Има статистики

Нея със статистика и факти няма как да я убедиш.

Къде ги статистиите и фактите? :-))))

Fluoride is a neurotoxin which, in high doses, can be harmful. Excessive exposure can lead to tooth discoloration and bone problems. There is
enough fluoride in the water already, without adding more.

Long-term exposure to levels higher than this can cause a condition
called skeletal fluorosis, in which fluoride builds up in the bones.
This can eventually result in joint stiffness and pain, and can also
lead to weak bones or fractures in older adults.

ох, joy -- едно от нещата, на които учат лекарите е, че дозата е най-
важна.

в цитата пише „in high doses“, което обяснява пък това, което румен е
написал.

ако ще се занимаваме с вода, виж там нещо за хлора в нея и за озонирането
и -- дали и те нямат кофти странични ефекти.

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On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 19:24:49 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:39:04 PM UTC-7, Nick wrote:

On Tue, 31 May 2022 15:33:56 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 7:58:38 AM UTC-7, Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 3:51:58 AM UTC-4, Rumen wrote:

...

Това с флуора беше практика десетки години в ГДР. Наистина хората
от 60-те,70-те,80-те години родени и живяли там са с по-здрави
зъби от западняците. Има статистики

Нея със статистика и факти няма как да я убедиш.

Къде ги статистиите и фактите? :-))))

Fluoride is a neurotoxin which, in high doses, can be harmful.
Excessive exposure can lead to tooth discoloration and bone problems.
There is enough fluoride in the water already, without adding more.

Long-term exposure to levels higher than this can cause a condition
called skeletal fluorosis, in which fluoride builds up in the bones.
This can eventually result in joint stiffness and pain, and can also
lead to weak bones or fractures in older adults.

ох, joy -- едно от нещата, на които учат лекарите е, че дозата е най-
важна.

в цитата пише „in high doses“, което обяснява пък това, което румен е
написал.

Ник, а ти как знаеш какви са дозите?

от листовката към лекарството. отделно, че аз чета листовките,
предназначени за лекарите, а не за пациентите 8-)

ако искаш подробности, мога да попитам фармацевтите от факултета -- как по
принцип се определят дозите за едно лекарство. има един термин ld50, който
е основен при лекарствата.

за съжаление, не знам да има начин, по който да изчислиш правилната доза
от едно лекарство за конкретен човек. то и за това медицината все още не е
точна наука.

Отделно за един човек може да е смъртоносна, за друг да е невинна.

именно, приемането на безопасни дози от една „отрова“ може да те направи
резистентен към нея. резистентен в смисъл, че за да умреш, ще трябва да
поемеш по-голени дози от нея, а не че изобщо няма да умреш. колко по-
големи, зависи от конкретния случай.

Флуорът и разните там флуориди се намират естествено в някои вещества.
Защо да се слагат допълнително?

защото не всички поемат от тези вещества, но всички имат зъби ;)

идва ми една друга идея защо са спряли флуора във водата, но няма да я
споделям, че на някои хора тук ще им стане дискомфортно, а като гледам,
дискомфортът напоследък им е в повишени дози ;)

ако ще се занимаваме с вода, виж там нещо за хлора в нея и за
озонирането и -- дали и те нямат кофти странични ефекти.

Имат естествено. А ти помниш ли едно време да сме ползвали бутилирана
вода?

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On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 10:58:58 +0200, Rumen wrote:

Страхотна вода имаше обаче в България по планинските чешми, тези дето
си шуртяха непрекъснато. Водата в САЩ от чешмата не става за пиене,
поне при мен.

Че тя и сега бутилираната е минерална. Чешмяна бутулирана не съм виждал,
поне в Германия и България.

има, обърни внимание на етикетите -- така наречената изворна или трапезна
вода е тази, за която говори радостина. за минералните води изрично си
пише -- минерална на етикета.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 19:37:43 -0700 (PDT), Ivaylo Ivanov wrote:

Само че както каахме с Ник, дозата е индивидуална, за някои може да се
окаже голяма.

To aко ще търсим индивидуални дози за всяко вещество направо да ходим на
врачки и "народни лечители".

а би трябвало.

ще излезеш срам за професията си.

--
«地 球 誕 生 在 牛 市 的 小 時 — Earth is born in the Bull's hour»

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Изобщо не искам да го захващам за народните лечители.

Има си хас! Кой нормален се занимава със знахари!?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:59:26 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Ти знаеш ли че много лекари днес препоръчват народни лечения,

Завършили медицина къде, в Тимбукту, д Джибути или къде?

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 00:14:08 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Цели институти по хомеопатия има (макар да е псевдонаука),
както остава за билколечение.

Шмекерия...
Ако билколечението беше ефективно още щяхме да сме на него..

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

китайската традиционна медицина е много добра

Китайската традиционна медицина става само да превързва рани,
това ми го каза официален китайски знахар и ме прати при
европейския си колега - съсед по кабинет, който също беше китаец.
Куха си като Магурата...

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT), Радостина wrote:

Знаеш ли примерно че преди 2000 години, като се изключат хората, починали от насилствена
смърт, за останалите средната продължителност на живота е 72 години

Глупости!
Погледни продължителността на живота на разните там царе и други
известни личности за които се знае до 19 век: карат до около 65
години в последните няколко века и под 60 в ранното средновековие
и преди това.

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