• Criminal Armenian Voices from "St. Andrew Armenian Church, Cupertin

    From rgokdel@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Serdar Argic on Wed Feb 3 23:01:12 2016
    On Wednesday, March 9, 1994 at 5:33:08 AM UTC+2, Serdar Argic wrote:
    In article <0028371@Khavarum.org> Sdver@Khavarum.org writes:

    Organization: St. Andrew Armenian Church, Cupertino, CA

    No wonder x-Soviet Armenian Government is the most genocidal government
    with an unreachable genocide record in history, 'nehabet papaz efendi'. Anyway, sorry, but it is the 'Armenian genocide of 2.5 million
    Muslim people' counts here, 'killi/kokulu minassian of SDPA/x-Soviet
    Armenian Government'. Now let me introduce "St. Andrew Armenian Church, Cupertino, CA/SDPA" to 2.5 million Muslim people slaughtered by
    the Armenians in x-Soviet Armenia and Eastern Anatolia. Remember
    that the x-Soviet Armenian government got away with the genocide
    of 2.5 million Muslim men, women and children and is enjoying the
    fruits of that genocide. You, your 'killi/kokulu church' and those
    like you, will not get away with the genocide's cover-up. Not a chance.

    Give it to your 'papazian of x-Soviet Armenian Government'.

    Source: Hassan Arfa, "The Kurds," (London, 1968), pp. 25-26.

    "When the Russian armies invaded Turkey after the Sarikamish disaster
    of 1914, their columns were preceded by battalions of irregular
    Armenian volunteers, both from the Caucasus and from Turkey. One of
    these was commanded by a certain Andranik, a blood-thirsty adventurer.
    These Armenian volunteers committed all kinds of excesses, more
    than six hundred thousand Kurds being killed between 1915 and 1916 in
    the eastern vilayets of Turkey."


    Source: "U.S. Library of Congress:" 'Bristol Papers' - General Correspondence Container #34.

    "While the Dashnaks were in power they did everything in the world to keep the
    pot boiling by attacking Kurds, Turks and Tartars; by committing outrages
    against the Moslems; by massacring the Moslems; and robbing and destroying
    their homes;....During the last two years the Armenians in Russian Caucasus
    have shown no ability to govern themselves and especially no ability to
    govern or handle other races under their power."


    Sources: (The Ottoman State, the Ministry of War), "Islam Ahalinin
    Ducar Olduklari Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat," (Istanbul, 1918). The French version: "Documents Relatifs aux Atrocites Commises par les Armeniens
    sur la Population Musulmane," (Istanbul, 1919). In the Latin script: H. K. Turkozu, ed., "Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi," (Ankara, 1982). In addition: Z. Basar, ed., "Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz," (Ankara, 1974) and, edited by the same author, "Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler," (Ankara, 1978). "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ...," Vol. 32, 83 (December 1983), document numbered 1881.
    "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ....," Vol. 31, 81 (December 1982), document
    numbered 1869.

    "Those who were capable of fighting were taken away at the very beginning
    with the excuse of forced labor in road construction, they were taken
    in the direction of Sarikamis and annihilated. When the Russian army
    withdrew, a part of the remaining people was destroyed in Armenian
    massacres and cruelties: they were thrown into wells, they were locked
    in houses and burned down, they were killed with bayonets and swords, in places
    selected as butchering spots, their bellies were torn open, their lungs
    were pulled out, and girls and women were hanged by their hair after
    being subjected to every conceivable abominable act. A very small part
    of the people who were spared these abominations far worse than the
    cruelty of the inquisition resembled living dead and were suffering
    from temporary insanity because of the dire poverty they had lived
    in and because of the frightful experiences they had been subjected to.
    Including women and children, such persons discovered so far do not
    exceed one thousand five hundred in Erzincan and thirty thousand in
    Erzurum. All the fields in Erzincan and Erzurum are untilled, everything
    that the people had has been taken away from them, and we found them
    in a destitute situation. At the present time, the people are subsisting
    on some food they obtained, impelled by starvation, from Russian storages
    left behind after their occupation of this area."

    GERMAN DIRECTED THE TURKS AT VAN

    Come again?

    Source: General Bronsart wrote as follows in an article in the July 24,
    1921 issue of the newspaper "Deutsche Allgemeine Zeitung:"

    "Since all the Moslems capable of bearing arms were in the Turkish Army,
    it was easy to organize a terrible massacre by the Armenians against
    defenseless people, because the Armenians were not only attacking the
    sides and rear of the Eastern Army paralyzed at the front by the
    Russians, but were attacking the Moslem folk in the region as well."

    Ditto. Anyway, did you know that 2.5 million Muslim people slaughtered
    by cowardly Armenians spoke Turkish?

    Veysel Eroglu, "The Armenian Genocide of the Muslim People in Eastern
    Anatolia," Sebil Yayinevi, Istanbul, 1978.

    pp. 170-173.

    "Mamahatun (Tercan) istikametinde ilerliyen Turk kitalari, Mamahatun
    kasabasinin kamilen denecek derecede yakilarak kasabanin yerle bir
    oldugunu ve ahalisinin evlere doldurularak yakmak, sungu ve kursunla
    oldurulmek suretiyle imha edilmis oldugunu gormustur. Mamahatun
    kasabasi icinde ve civarinda sungu ve kursunla sehid edilip Turk
    kitalari tarafindan toplattirilan masumlarin adedi ucyuzu buluyordu.

    Birinci Kafkas Kolordu Kumandani, Onbesinci Kolordu Kumandani
    Tuggeneral Kazim Karabekir'in 15 Eylul'de Erzurum'a gelen Amerikali
    General Harbord Hey'etine verdigi raporda Mamahatun'daki mezalimi
    soyle anlatiyor:

    'Mufrezemiz 22 Subat'ta Mamahatun'u isgal etti. Burada sag kalan kimse
    bulunmadi. Butun ahalisi buyuk bir cukura doldurularak oldurulmustu;
    her taraf yaniyordu. Bunlari gozumle gordum. 25 Subat'ta bir kesif
    kolumuzla Askale isgal edildi.

    Karargahimin bulundugu Alacakoyu'nde cenazeler insanin aklini
    oynatacak bir haldeydi. Butun cocuklar sungulenmis; yaslilar ve
    samanliklara doldurulup yakilmis gencler baltalarla parcalanmisti;
    civilere asilmis ciger ve kalpler goruluyordu...'
    [usual horrifying pictures - sa]

    Simdi de Erzincan - Erzurum arasinda Ermeni Mezalimini Ahmed Refik'in
    'Iki Komite Iki Kital' isimli eserinden nakledelim:

    'Anadolu sefalet icindeydi. Bican'da cocuk baslari goruluyor.
    Mamahatun, parcalanmis evladlarini sinesine gommus, harab camileri,
    yikilmis evleriyle adeta agliyordu. Ermeniler Akkoyunlulardan kalma
    camii berhava etmisler ve ahaliden pek cogunu da oldurmuslerdi.
    Asagida dere kenarinda genis bir cukur yuzlerce Turk oluleriyle
    doluydu. Kokmus insan oluleri, elbiseleriyle, cariklariyla
    birbirlerine karismisdi. Bu cesetlerin eriyen yaglari, ezilmis
    baslari, kopmus kollari ve ayaklariyla yiginlar teskil ediyordu.
    Sigircik kumeleri bu talihsiz olulerin etrafinda, soguktan kabaran
    siyah tuyleriyle otusuyor ve ucusuyorlardi.

    Anadolu acliktan telef oluyordu. Yenikoy halki harabeler ortasinda
    ot yemekle mesguldu...Yollarda koy harabelerinden baska birsey
    yoktu. Hicbir koyde bir tek insan gorulmuyordu. Yol kenarlarinda
    insana muteallik tesaduf edilen seyler; kol, ayak, el, kelle
    parcalariydi. Koca Ilica hemen bombostu. Bu guzel yerleri sigircik
    kumelerinden baska hicbirsey senlendirmiyordu. Ilica halki Ermeniler
    tarafindan kamilen denecek derecede kana bogulmustu.'[34]

    Tazegul koy ahalisinden otuz kadin, cocuk katlolunuyor ve yirmibes
    erkek de birlikte alinip goturuluyor ki, bunlarin da ayni elim akibete
    ducar olduklari anlasiliyor.

    Tilkitepe'sinin iki kilometre guneyinde Cenes koyu halkinin yakilmak
    ve sungulenmek ve hamile kadinlarin karinlari yarilarak cikarilan
    cocuklar kucaklarina verilmek suretiyle pek feci ve seni bir surette
    sehid edilmis olduklari anlasildi.

    Oreni, kamilen yakilmis ve ahalisi tamamen katledilmistir."

    [34] Ahmed Refik, "Iki Komite Iki Kital," sh. 73-74.

    (to be continued...)

    Serdar Argic

    'We have never denied the Armenian crime of
    genocide inflicted upon 2.5 million Muslim
    people between 1914 and 1920.' (Agop Zahoryan)

    'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
    a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian)

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