• Re: Tymoshenko can't tell Christmas from Easter and President from Prim

    From Mark Gorbatko@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 20 12:51:31 2023
    There has been a lot of news written about it at https://myc.news/. I think everyone will be interested in the details of this topic.

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  • From Mark Gorbatko@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 20 12:52:58 2023
    четвер, 4 лютого 2010 р. о 10:38:45 UTC+2 Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. пише:
    On Feb 3, 5:20 am, vello <vellok...@hot.ee> wrote:
    On Feb 3, 12:52 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."



    <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Feb 1, 2:21 pm, vello <vellok...@hot.ee> wrote:

    On Feb 1, 10:54 pm, The Black Monk <ch....@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Feb 1, 11:38 am, vello <vellok...@hot.ee> wrote:

    On Feb 1, 4:02 pm, The Black Monk <ch....@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Feb 1, 6:59 am, vello <vellok...@hot.ee> wrote:

    While there is much talk of post-Soviet Russia adopting a Chinese model, it is probably more likely to adopt a more civilized Japanese
    political model which allows for much more individual rights. Japan
    if you recall, despite having free elections has basically been governed by the same political party for 50 years, which is interwoven
    with a handful of huge industrial conglomorates beholden to the state.

    regards,

    BM

    how much I know "Japanese model" is democracy with no "power party",
    "national leader", "national Japanese democracy" and other things. Yes, one party dominated there for a long time but no records they keep power by controlling media and manipulating law and justice. And
    just in 2009 they lost their position pretty democratically collecting
    less votes then opposition so today's Japanese govt and prime are for
    another party.
    By Freedom index, despite not in top group, Japan is on row with Italy, Latvia and Greece, so no doubt it is democratic. Japan is/was
    not governed by some "father of Nation" but by Japanese people.

    So if Russia follows the Japanese model, in 40 years it will have a government other than that of United Russia or whatever version Putin and his heirs create, and will then be as democratic as Greece or Italy.

    no way I'm professional about political system of Japan, but how much
    I know there was no "strongman" in Japan after ww2 or later, no govt controlled media, "governors" set by govt, not elected locally etc
    etc. With "help" of US they got a modern democratic constitution after ww2 and it is arguable was Japan 40 years ago less democratic then today. So for Russia taking "Japan way" would mean end with the power of mikado (and some gas shoguns) and start with the pover of people.

    Vello, I know that your own media has brainwashed you into thinking
    that Putin's control over the top three Russian TV networks is
    something that can never happen in any democratic country, but
    certainly Italy under the rule of President Berlusconi is much worse. Berlusconi controls all top 6 (six!) networks:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_in_Italy

    Most-viewed channels

    The Auditel measures television ratings in Italy. The channels with a viewing share of >= 1.0% according to Auditel's measurements in
    September 2008 are: [14]

    Rai Uno 21.80%
    Canale 5 20.33%
    Rai Due 10.60%
    Italia 1 10.83%
    Rai Tre 9.07%
    Rete 4 8.28%

    Rai Uno, Rai Due and Rai Tre belong to the government directly.

    Canale 5 is an Italian private television network of Mediaset, the
    media branch of Fininvest. Fininvest is a financial holding company controlled by Silvio Berlusconi's family and managed by Silvio Berlusconi's oldest daughter Marina Berlusconi.

    Italia 1 is an Italian commercial television station on the Mediaset network, the media branch of Fininvest. Fininvest is a financial
    holding company controlled by Silvio Berlusconi's family and managed
    by Silvio Berlusconi's oldest daughter Marina Berlusconi. It is
    oriented especially at young people.

    Rete 4 (pronounced Retequattro) is an Italian television station belonging to the Mediaset network, the media branch of Fininvest. Fininvest is a financial holding company controlled by Silvio Berlusconi's family and managed by Silvio Berlusconi's oldest daughter Marina Berlusconi.. It is an Italian private commercial TV channel.

    In fact, there is only one private network in Italy not owned by
    Silvio Berlusconi - La7 - and it is miniscule, owning only a 3.08%
    market share.

    Any questions?

    Italy is shame of EU and is not listed on top rank by Freedom house -
    all civilized nations are normally in that "top rank". But Berlusconi
    owns those channels as private businessman, not as a "national leader"
    of Italy.

    You are right. The way it worked was that Berlusconi first built his
    private TV empire, then used this empire to brainwash the Italian
    electorate to elect him to office, where he can maximise his ownership
    of Italy as his private domain.

    There has been a lot of news written about it at https://myc.news/. I think everyone will be interested in the details of this topic.

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