I'd like if Russia's authorities issued a recommendation
not to do business with Polish sellers without much need
since it ends up with the Polish stink like this.
"Russia has banned Poland?Ts popular, but
controversial, Soviet-inspired board game Kolejka,
Poland?Ts state Institute of National Remembrance
(IPN) reports."
http://europe.newsweek.com/russia-bans-polands-communist-monopoly-being-anti-russian-438972
Over the weekend, IPN reported that Russia?Ts consumer
watchdog Rospotrebnadzor _warned_ that the game is
perceived as ?oanti-Russian? and excessively critical
of the Soviet system. Russian authorities asked
Trefl, the company who bought the game?Ts license from
IPN, to either remove the direct historical references
from it or _risk_ getting the product banned.
This game is being sold on the Russian market since 2011.
It's not banned. Internet search
<http://tinyurl.com/hm6rty7> gives a number of shops in
Russia that currently offer it. It seems to be quite a
mediocre item in the Russian market, far from to be
'popular'. I never heard about this game before.
Newsweek article refers to manufacturer's post in the
Facebook <http://archive.is/xbwqm>, written in Polish. I
can understand that the manufacturer recently somehow
changed the version of the game intended to the Russian
market. Then their Russian distributor company allegedly
warned them that the new version might meet negative
response from the Russian public and from Rospotrebnadzor
('Office for Protection of Consumer Rights').
They speculate, Rospotrebnadzor allegedly suggested that
the seller should change text in the booklet that is a
supplement to the game supposed 'to introduce into
historical context' etc.
There's absolutely no information about this Polish (one
more) tragic drama in Russian - neither in official
sources nor in non-official blogs / opposition media etc
- the hysteria grows solely from Polish and Ukrainian
sources.
So I can suppose two possible options. First is,
the Polish manufacturer of the game has made up this
story in order to achieve more publicity and promote
their products in non-Russian markets. Second is, they
really might write in [the new version of] their booklet
some nonsense that is inappropriate for settling in
Russia. It's a well known fact that the mainstream Polish
propaganda used to combine criticism against the Soviets
and racist hatred against the ethnic Russians two in one.
In such a case Rospotrebnadzor's intervention would be
explainable.
Currently, Poland is a 'provincial' east-European country
that doesn't produce anything in economical and cultural
sense that might be interesting to Russian market and
public. Meanwhile, the Poles (mainly, the Polish
intelligentsia and politicians) tend to believe that
Poland is destined to have some 'special' links with
Russia. It really was so in the 19 century, it's not the
case today, and it hurts the Poles to depth of their
soul.
In the Polish media, one can find bitter lamentations,
sort of 'I traveled in Russia and found that nobody gives
a shit about us the Poles here' eg.
<http://archive.is/VXvs8>, even to the anti-Putin
opposition 'Poland is the last thing that interests them.'
This Russian disinterest to Poland provokes the Poles to
try to remind about their existence through destructive
invectives. It includes the promotion of the anti-Russian
racism in combination with the Polish victimhood in
regard to the USSR and Russian empire. Dramatic play of
the role of Russian victims is a kind of professional
occupation of the mainstream Polish politicians. Eg., the
Polish defense minister recently issued a statement <http://gcssi.org/wp2/?p=6043> that the terrorism as
phenomenon is a product of the Soviet ideas while it 'did
not exist in the history of Western Christendom' (Polish
defense ministers seem to be traditionally a sort of
clowns <http://on.rt.com/7fyj6q>).
The 'banned game' case should be understood in such a
context.
On 25/03/2016 07:48, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
This game is being sold on the Russian market since
2011. It's not banned. Internet search
<http://tinyurl.com/hm6rty7> gives a number of shops in
Russia that currently offer it. It seems to be quite a
mediocre item in the Russian market, far from to be
'popular'. I never heard about this game before.
Newsweek article refers to manufacturer's post in the
Facebook <http://archive.is/xbwqm>, written in Polish. I
can understand that the manufacturer recently somehow
changed the version of the game intended to the Russian
market. Then their Russian distributor company allegedly
warned them that the new version might meet negative
response from the Russian public and from Rospotrebnadzor
('Office for Protection of Consumer Rights').
They speculate, Rospotrebnadzor allegedly suggested that
the seller should change text in the booklet that is a
supplement to the game supposed 'to introduce into
historical context' etc.
There's absolutely no information about this Polish (one
more) tragic drama in Russian - neither in official
sources nor in non-official blogs / opposition media etc
- the hysteria grows solely from Polish and Ukrainian
sources. So I can suppose two possible options. First
is, the Polish manufacturer of the game has made up this
story in order to achieve more publicity and promote
their products in non-Russian markets. Second is, they
really might write in [the new version of] their booklet
some nonsense that is inappropriate for settling in
Russia. It's a well known fact that the mainstream
Polish propaganda used to combine criticism against the
Soviets and racist hatred against the ethnic Russians
two in one. In such a case Rospotrebnadzor's
intervention would be explainable.
Currently, Poland is a 'provincial' east-European
country that doesn't produce anything in economical and
cultural sense that might be interesting to Russian
market and public. Meanwhile, the Poles (mainly, the
Polish intelligentsia and politicians) tend to believe
that Poland is destined to have some 'special' links
with Russia. It really was so in the 19 century, it's
not the case today, and it hurts the Poles to depth of
their soul.
In the Polish media, one can find bitter lamentations,
sort of 'I traveled in Russia and found that nobody
gives a shit about us the Poles here' eg.
<http://archive.is/VXvs8>, even to the anti-Putin
opposition 'Poland is the last thing that interests
them.'
This Russian disinterest to Poland provokes the Poles to
try to remind about their existence through destructive
invectives. It includes the promotion of the
anti-Russian racism in combination with the Polish
victimhood in regard to the USSR and Russian empire.
Dramatic play of the role of Russian victims is a kind
of professional occupation of the mainstream Polish
politicians. Eg., the Polish defense minister recently
issued a statement <http://gcssi.org/wp2/?p=6043> that
the terrorism as phenomenon is a product of the Soviet
ideas while it 'did not exist in the history of Western
Christendom' (Polish defense ministers seem to be
traditionally a sort of clowns
<http://on.rt.com/7fyj6q>).
The 'banned game' case should be understood in such a
context.
Maybe they should design a flying game.
Each player is President of an eastern European country.
The aim is to fly from one capital to the next without
crashing. The player representing Russia has the goal of
shooting down the aircraft of other players.
I think it could be fun.
<http://tinyurl.com/zrxz3de> dailymail.co.uk
Poland says Russia poses existential threat, urges NATO presence
"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:nmiel0$led$1@os.motzarella.org...
That's the Polish propaganda which eagerly looks for what Russian - mostly >> second tier - figures say about Poland, in blogs, social networks etc, and >> misrepresents it to naive Polish audience as 'rage' and 'threats'. In fact, >> the hysteria is driven by the current ruling clique in Poland, which yells >> shamelessly that Russia is going to invade them. It's natural that some in >> Russia express irritation of this Polish fidgetiness. This indecent Polish >> behavior is a form of perverted attention seeking. If the Polish political >> stinkers did not claim persistently about upcoming attack from Russia then >> there would be no reason to pay much attention to Poland.
You don't understand what I said,
so I'll say it again;
You better stay with your stinking Russian shit
and don't come here any more.
"Fortunski" <fortunski@world.com> wrote in message
"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:nmiel0$led$1@os.motzarella.org...
That's the Polish propaganda which eagerly looks for what Russian -
mostly
second tier - figures say about Poland, in blogs, social networks
etc, and
misrepresents it to naive Polish audience as 'rage' and 'threats'. In
fact,
the hysteria is driven by the current ruling clique in Poland, which
yells
shamelessly that Russia is going to invade them. It's natural that
some in
Russia express irritation of this Polish fidgetiness. This indecent
Polish
behavior is a form of perverted attention seeking. If the Polish
political
stinkers did not claim persistently about upcoming attack from Russia
then
there would be no reason to pay much attention to Poland.
You don't understand what I said,
so I'll say it again;
You better stay with your stinking Russian shit
and don't come here any more.
Instead of trying to say something 'weighty' and stupid, you
should demand from your clownish shitty government to stop promote
the falsehood that Russia allegedly wants to invade Poland.
On 18/07/2016 17:17, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
I can personally reassure everyone that Russia has
only invaded Poland nine times in the past. Poles can
rest easy.
<http://migre.me/ujpFf>, <http://migre.me/ujpGD>
Poland, as a carrion eater, took Russian lands after
the Mongolian invasion, and it required a few centures
to take [a part of] them back from Poland.
Now all you have to do is steal the rest.
I sense another invasion...
The Poles (in mass quantities) is the last thing the
Russians would like to see within Russia
Just annex the country, like you've done numerous times
before. That way the Russians will be in their failing
state, and the Poles will be in Poland, and everybody
will be happy.
, so there is
no reason to invade Poland.
Crimea came to Russia because the Crimeans wanted so.
The issues in East Ukraine is of similar nature. The
Poles are not welcome in Russia, so they should stop
their non-natural hysteria, and the malicious British
should stop to incite the guileless Poles to insanity.
That's a lot of shoulds. But then you might not know what
"should" means.
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 2:11:57 PM UTC-2:30, DVH wrote:course, the Jews:
Don't feed neoNazi troll "Oleg Smirnov", That troll defended Hitler by claiming that the III Reich was a victim of unprovoked aggression, and propmoted his neoNazi sources that the German was subject to aggression. among others, by Poland, US, and of
"after the Jews declared war on Germany in March, 1933."
from a neoNazi propaganda promoted on scp by "Oleg Smirnov" as "an interesting reading"
W dniu 2016-07-18 o 20:55, Piotr pisze:
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 2:11:57 PM UTC-2:30, DVH
Don't feed neoNazi troll "Oleg Smirnov", That troll
defended Hitler by claiming that the III Reich was a
victim of unprovoked aggression, and propmoted his
neoNazi sources that the German was subject to
aggression. among others, by Poland, US, and of course,
the Jews:
"after the Jews declared war on Germany in March, 1933."
from a neoNazi propaganda promoted on scp by "Oleg
Smirnov" as "an interesting reading"
don`t trust Piotr, a very decent and very modest
ocean-researcher from New Fumfland CA
he is a Pole eater:)
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