• If "the last (part of) exile is under the Erev Rav", then ...

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 3 20:20:24 2024
    If the last (part of) exile is under the "Erev Rav" (Mixed Multitude who
    left with Israel out of Egypt, but was not truly part of Israel and did
    not believe in the laws given through Moshe Rabbeinu - they where
    sorcerers and witches and magicians (or so I read...)), as "the Sages" seem
    to have said (numerous references to be found on the Internet), then it
    is more than a little obvious who the Erev Rav are right now.

    The Erev Rav are said to have caused the 'Golden Calf' rebellion,
    and are constantly trying to take power over the rest of the people
    (carreer opportunists feigning to be good people, a fair amount of top politicians are like this in all Nations). The Erev Rav work on the mind
    (all from various sources, they all say the same mostly anyway), they
    are manipulators of what people think. They can however also be violent
    and criminal in other ways. They can also be people who just try to cool
    people down from wanting to do the Torah. They oppose the Torah, they
    are selfish and do not really care about other people. (God warned not
    to bring these people along, but Moshe Rabbeinu did it thinking they
    would truly convert and become happy and alive that way.)

    It is a total and complete match for ... the Zionist Rebel State in the
    holy land. They came from a background of people who where opposed to
    the Torah, they where the non-believers. They nevertheless pretend to
    stand for the truth, justice and peace and have a great way of
    manipulating people their minds (as we can see in how many people they
    won over to their cause, despite it having little or nothing to do with
    the Torah). They are also the last part of the current exile, and it is perfectly reasonable to say that if much of the current exile is in the
    Nation of Edom (Europe, European Nations), then the last part of this
    exile is now happening under the Zionist State - which at the same time
    is a corner of Edom also (it exists thanks to the interference and
    control of the European Nations (which includes USA)).

    It is both Edom (largely a western culture it seems, also from which
    many Jews came and brought that along), but also something different
    in a sense: it is Edom staffed with at least born Jewish people (mostly
    I guess). Western culture is very broad nowadays, because of the
    conquests by the European Nations globally. Europe runs more or less
    from Moscow to London, and from this area they conquered the rest of the
    world. Therefore if someone comes from eastern Siberia, no longer are
    they tribal with their own culture, but if they are Russian, they are
    western, they are European. People in California "Americans" (not native Indians), are also Europeans. Hence you could say, this entire area is
    Edom, if you define Edom as 'Europe'. The Zionist State has a lot in
    common with this culture. It could be reasonable to still call it the
    exile in Edom, while at the same time it can be the exile under the "Erev
    Rav" of Israel.

    Well, I thought it was pretty obvious, but didn't find any immediate
    sources for the idea, so I thought I post it here. This leaves the
    question: what are the Rabbis ? They break down the Torah on the one
    hand with things like the prozbul and the Golden Calf like idol 'Lamp of Helena' (currently being rebuild in Yerushalayim, believe it or not),
    while on the other hand they constantly keep copying the Torah. Is their
    goal to shore up as much Torah as they can, but they just can't get
    there in full because of confusion, indoctrination and lack of popular
    support, so only the fewest of them have the courage to fight against
    the prosbul and like crimes (crimes by Hillel and Rambam with his heter
    iska) ... or is it rather that the Rabbis work on lowering the level of
    the best people of Israel who would otherwise have the ability to Redeem Israel, but they confuse them and implicate them in crimes like the
    prozbul and Sun disk Idolarty and the crime of not opposing these
    problems as they should have. Is it pulling up on something low, or is
    it pushing down on something high.

    Perhaps it is different depending on the person, perhaps it is both.
    All in all, in a negative sense, they also become the Erev Rav, to the
    extend they damage the Torah for their people. You can talk a mile about
    all kinds of wonderful concepts in your highly paid and exquisit Yeshiva
    (got help from the Rothshild crime family, or other rich people who
    would absolutely hate it if they had to lend to the poor easily, without interest, and forgive the loans every 7th year ?), but if there is a
    poor soul roaming outside who needed help but doesn't get it, and this
    person cries out for Justice to heaven (to loosely quote the Torah),
    then what good does it do for you. What good do your prayers for
    yourself do, if heaven hears crying from your streets, because you bend
    away the Torah, you bend away the laws which should have helped him, so
    that the rich where happy with you and gave you money. Isn't that a
    crime, isn't that what you would expect from this supposed fabled enemy
    within, the corrupting influence from within.

    Well, there where 5 types of Erev Rav listed in several places, and one
    of them was the type who refuses help, and they all are failing to
    uphold the Torah, but rather want to take it down. The Rabbis also do
    that. It is almost like the Zionist Rebel State becomes the "bad cop" of
    the Erev Rav, using a lot of violence and crudeness, whereas the
    mainstream Rabbis (who follow the prosbul, but as far as i know that is
    all of Rabbinical Judaism, and those who aren't (Ultra)Orthodox are
    probably so bad with their Torah that I am not even going to refer to
    them at all) use finesse and are more like a seemingly "good cop". I
    don't know, but it doesn't look good, and it gets worse if it turns out
    the Rabbis are blocking the Redemption.

    If that turns out to be true in the end, Rabbinical Judaism could be
    over, at least in its current form. If they cause the delay which will
    in turn cause the next round of punishment to happen, 7 times worse than
    the Nazis, if they have to shoulder that guilt because they blocked the Redemption with their pride and their shallowness, their dishonesty and
    their cowardice, their lust for their comfortable positions and the lack
    of wanting to take a risk for the truth, then I guess that is the end
    for their thing. They would, again, have ruined the best, and it may
    have caused ... 95% of all Jewish people to die (!). How does a
    movement, a religious establishment, survive the guilt of causing this
    to their own people ? I guess they mostly will not.

    Thus seems to be the current situation. It requires no more than simple honesty, and you don't even have to be smart at all, and you know the
    prosbul is a lie, and whoever is promulgating and spreading it (which is Rabbinical Judaism), has lost their standing, as teachers, as judges, as scholars - at least until they repent and do better.

    It is furthermore important that you realize, that if you sit here on
    the fence and you just wait to see who wins the fight, you just wait
    until where the masses will roll and then you will cheer for the winner:
    then you do not belong with the truth. You are doing precisely what I
    was reading about this Erev Rav, who came with Moshe Rabbeinu because of
    his miracles and his strength and so on, so that they could be part of
    that for themselves. They merely sided with the winner, the great 10
    Plagues upon Egypt, who brought Egypt to their knees. They sided with
    the winner, but not because they cared for Justice or the suffering of
    the Israelites, as Moshe Rabbeinu did, who risked everything for them.
    They sat there peering, I guess, to see who would win, where the crowd
    would move, and then they ingratiated themselves on the winning team, to
    get something out of it for themselves.

    If this is what you do, if you sit here reading thinking "we shall see
    how far this goes", then get lost and don't come back. You are
    officially disinvited. Leave. (Sorry, got a bit carried away I guess,
    lol). It is absolutely patently clear that the prosbul is a lie. It is
    not a debate. If someone sits on this debate and thinks, I will side
    with the winner, we will see what others say about it so that I can stay
    safe & snug between my family and friends, I don't risk my neck: you are
    not the material worthwhile to build a Nation out off, you are just dead weight. You are ... Erev Rav, I suppose.

    The dishonesty is flat out not allowed, and in the past proper tribes
    who had their morality in good order, if you are a liar to your own
    people, that is already the death penalty or death by banishment and
    figure it out. Nobody wants criminals in their Clan or Tribe, liars,
    dishonest scum, disloyal people. The prosbul is a lie, and therefore it
    is a very serious offense. This isn't merely some opinion this or
    opinion that and "what color for the window panes do you like", this is
    out and out fraud and lying ! How can a people accept that. Lying is an
    act of warfare. If you lie to someone, you are at war with them.

    The standard of the Torah is very high, to then take that down is double
    bad. The worst part of the prosbul is, it is a simple law to keep. It
    isn't even about any death penalties and all the unpleasantness this may entail. It is just about some money ! I guess for some people though,
    money is everything, and they give up their souls for it, their honor,
    their word.

    So ... in a not unsubstantial way, the Rabbis are also the Erev Rav.
    Maybe they can still do Teshuvah, but so far it seems, I asked quite a
    few or tried to get through to them, but zero result. How can I not
    conclude they are dishonest ?

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    I also read this, that the true Jew has three characteristics: he is
    modest, he is kind, and he is forgiving. Is it modest to issue the
    prozbul ? Absolutely not. Is it kind ? No, it is vicious. Is it
    forgiving ? hah ! See the word joke with that ? Spare me the lie that
    thanks to the prosbul there where loans for the poor, spare me the lies
    please. If the rich hadn't wanted to lend, it was time for punishment,
    drag the greedy scum to court ! There is the law, how do you plead, or
    do you want to go out right now and start doing your duty to your people starting here in the court room ?!

    Anyway, it is obvious. It seems the Zionist Rebel State is the 'Erev
    Rav', if it is true that the final exile is under the Erev Rav. IT also
    makes sense that it will be the hardest, because of the natural loyalty
    Jewish people feel to the Zionist State. In a broader way, the Rabbis
    also share elements of being the Erev Rav. They may be full Erev Rav, or partially, I don't know, but there are elements of it at the least. They
    also may be blocking the Redemption right now, causing a delay which may
    cause the second holocaust to happen before the Redemption can finally
    come (but we shall see how it goes first, before we really know if this actually is occuring right now).

    Buy rice and camping gear, things are going bad on Earth, and you will
    see that it will become a World War, probably nuclear. The USA Empire is imploding, they want to form a Tyranny. They are looting their Empire
    into the ground from the inside out, and they know it. They know they
    are going to repress their own people, or the whole world if they can.
    They are printing money like lunatics, and then try to use it to
    centralize control. The cliques at the CFR, BIS, IMF, UN and the like,
    those cliques and the Billionaires behind it all, that's their game. It
    is going to a head, slowly but surely. "9/11" 2001 did not happen for no reason. They prepared things with that, including the wars they needed
    and the Tyrannical law they wanted. Etc etc. Putin is not just the
    boogie man just like that, it is all a scam, it is all made up, to
    create a war. It is war for war sake, for the side effects of war. It is
    not real, there are no real reasons behind it, but people don't see it.
    They shoot and kill, but don't know why. They shoot and kill for life
    and freedom they think, but they themselves will be enslaved by it.

    The world is mad, mad and lost. Get a tent, buy a water filter, be ready
    to move, get food on hand, be able to defend yourself as well, etc.
    I think, if you are Jewish, you can no longer be in the USA. It is too dangerous and insane a place, and may also be the first target of
    Russian nukes ? It is a Tyranny, and soon we have this idiot Trump
    running the show there (maybe), a Fascist. He likes Jews, because he
    likes the Zionist State ? What does that end up meaning if you factor in
    the Erev Rav may be the Zionist State ? It is also a long way away
    from Israel. In Europe, at least you have land access, or a much shorter
    boat from Greece or Italy maybe. The Atlantic is quite the sea. (Sorry
    for ranting away. ;-)

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