Passing the year 6,000 is significant in Judaism, because it is the
great thousand year of the Shabbat, and the Redemption of Israel is
supposed to have happened.

Compare these writings please. While I haven't / couldn't get into it
all to the last detail, it seems to make a lot of sense:

https://jbqnew.jewishbible.org/jbq-past-issues/2016/443-july-september-2016/long-sojourn-egypt-210-430-years/

PROPOSED SOLUTION

In attempting to find a solution to this problem, the rabbinic
understanding preferred to view the passage in Genesis 46 regarding
who descended together with Jacob to Egypt in a literal fashion while
creatively adjusting our understanding of the passages in Genesis
15 and Exodus 12 that discuss the years of the servitude. I propose
instead that we understand Genesis 15 and Exodus 12 literally and
creatively adjust our understanding of Genesis 46. In this vein
I would suggest that the verses in Genesis 46 were not giving an
account of all the grandchildren of Jacob who actually came down to
Egypt with him. Rather, some of these were born before descending
to Egypt while others were born in Egypt.

End quote.

This argues that not all children had been born yet, when the Torah
gives a list of grandchildren. If nobody has a good rebuttle against
this article, my guess is that it is case closed ?

https://www.quora.com/According-to-the-Jewish-calendar-the-world-is-in-the-5780th-year-Does-someone-know-if-this-date-is-from-Adam-or-Noah-s-time
Check the answer given by "Joseph Sasson".

The dream encouraged me to look into the calendar and to adjust it to
the correct calculation as per the Torah’s many verses that give a
span between each generation. If one counts the Torah’s calculation,
one reaches 6,000, the beginning of the Acharit Hayamim, the End
of Days, where Hashem will reign alone according to the Torah’s
laws. What follows here in my original answer is an in-depth analysis
of the flaws in the current Jewish calendar that removed 220 years
from the Egyptian exile, reducing them to 210 years, although the
Torah stated there were 430 years of Egyptian exile in Shemot 12:40.

וּמוֹשַׁב֙ בְּנֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֲשֶׁ֥ר יָשְׁב֖וּ בְּמִצְרָ֑יִם שְׁלֹשִׁ֣ים שָׁנָ֔ה וְאַרְבַּ֥ע מֵא֖וֹת שָׁנָֽה׃

The length of time that the Children of Israel lived in Egypt was
four hundred and thirty years.—Shemot/Exodus 12:40

End quote.

He re-calculated the Jewish year with the 430 years of exile in Egypt
(which the Torah repeats twice IIRC which I feel should also count
for something). He goes over everything in detail. If there is no good
rebuttle against this, I think it is case closed.

*

Time for our favorite topic, the prosbul, to make its appearance !
Yay ! XD. Due to the prosbul, the Rabbis in general since Hillel the
Elder, have no strong credibility of their own. You can also take
putting on the Sun disk idol on the 2nd Temple as the moment that
credibility was lost. If the Rabbis support the prosbul, which is what
they do, everything they say and do needs to be checked again with the
original sources, and their opinion doesn't seem to count for much on
it's own. If there is a Rabbinical tradition of 210 years in Egypt, it
doesn't have much meaning, because the credibility is low. You could
even argue: we would *expect* errors or even malicious errors, because
of the maliciousness of the prosbul and the maliciousness of the Sun
disk idol on the 2nd Temple. (Which doesn't mean I dislike the Rabbis,
in fact I like them a lot; but you know, logic is logic, even if it
hurts).

We are then now past the year 6000, and there is more evidence for that
still. If the 7th Millenium is the Millenium of Shabbat, it is clear
that we are in a Shabbat of labor. We now have robots and machines who
can do everything. I sit here in this house, cannot work due to
pain/tiredness, but still the level of comfort I have would still be
pleasing at least a Knight in his fief in the middle ages, who had
peasants working for him. A regular person is riding around in an
Imperial carry along throne, probably better than the Chinese Emperors
of old ! Where does all this wealth come from all of a sudden ? Machines
do all the hard work. Canals used to be dug by hand, by shovel and
hundreds of men. Today one man is sitting on a chair with some pokes in
his hand, and soon this can also probably be completely automated. I
think most people at this point are quite impressed with "artificial intelligence" (don't make the mistake of thinking that this is 'life',
it isn't 'life' it is a massive amount of calculations and an extremely complicated 'function' (math) being the result), and I am also impressed
by it's ability. We literally are at the Shabbos in history.

*

So what does it all mean. It should have meant the Jewish poeple are
already Redeemed, and 'moshiach' should have happened. This is common
knowledge it seems, but here is a source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_6000

According to classical Jewish sources, the Hebrew year 6000 marks the
latest time for the initiation of the Messianic Age. The Talmud,[2]
Midrash,[3] and Zohar[4] state that the date by which the Messiah
will appear is 6,000 years from creation.

Apparently this idea of the 7th Millenium from Creation (Adam that is,
the Creation of Adam in the Garden of Eden) is Shabbat, is based on this
psalm:

https://www.sefaria.org/Psalms.90?lang=bi

תְּפִלָּה֮ לְמֹשֶׁ֢ה אִֽישׁ־הָאֱלֹ֫הִ֥ים אֲֽדֹנָ֗י מָע֣וֹן אַ֭תָּה הָיִ֥יתָ לָּ֗נוּ בְּדֹ֣ר וָדֹֽר׃
A prayer of Moses, the man of God. O Lord, You have been our refuge
in every generation.
בְּטֶ֤רֶם ׀ הָ֘רִ֤ים יֻלָּ֗דוּ וַתְּח֣וֹלֵֽל אֶ֣רֶץ וְתֵבֵ֑ל וּֽמֵעוֹלָ֥ם עַד־ע֝וֹלָ֗ם אַתָּ֥ה אֵֽל׃
Before the mountains came into being, before You brought forth the
earth and the world, from eternity to eternity You are God.
תָּשֵׁ֣ב אֱ֭נוֹשׁ עַד־דַּכָּ֑א וַ֝תֹּ֗אמֶר שׁ֣וּבוּ בְנֵֽי־אָדָֽם׃
You return man to dust; You decreed, “Return you mortals!”
כִּ֤י אֶ֪לֶף שָׁנִ֡ים בְּֽעֵינֶ֗יךָ כְּי֣וֹם אֶ֭תְמוֹל כִּ֣י יַֽעֲבֹ֑ר וְאַשְׁמוּרָ֥ה בַלָּֽיְלָה׃
For in Your sight a thousand years are like yesterday that has passed,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
like a watch of the night.

(...)

End quote. A thousand years is like one day, and hence the 7th day would
be Shabbat. While it does seem to be a bit thin of an argument, we do
see that we indeed have entered Shabbat in history. Certainly hard work
is basically becoming obsolete. Creating a fire used to be notoriously
hard work. These days ... well, it doesn't even have to be argued, it is
that obvious. You wake up and the house is warm on it's own with some
kind of timer on an automated switch, or you might just twist one
button, and no need to even put logs on the fire. For a great amount of
people this is the norm, while even our grandparents may still have put
logs under the pots and pans.

There is an interesting problem now: where is 'the moshiach'. If he
should have arrived before 6,000, and it is now the year 6,000 plus a
few ...

On January 4, 2020. I wrote: “The correct year is actually 6,000.”
(...) - Joseph Sasson (link above)


End quote. This seems to mean that the current Jewish year is already:
23 dec 2023 is today, so that means 6 003. If the 'moshiach' comes very
close to the year 6 000, or even actually on that date, or shortly
before, you are out of (lol, i had a typo causing my keyboard to insert "<WAKE>", yes you are out of "wake", you are not awake you are sleeping
and blind) options in a way. Your 'moshiach' should already have been
here. Was he here, is he here ? Yes of course, I am right here you know,
but you pretend not to notice. You think it's crazy to say that, and I
suppose that it is, but if you have something better then go for it. I
do have quite a program prepared for you, but you don't want to listen
to even think about it and investigate it. You investigate NOTHING, and
you perfectly well know that. I guess you prefer this blindness, because
you can use it to legitimize your opinion that what I am proposing is
'nut casery' (I guess). If you looked into it seriously, you might see
yourself forced to reconsider, and you don't want to take that risk I
guess.

I was here already since 2007 Common Era or so ? When I discovered your
great Torah, and shortly after I discovered you have been lying about it (prosbul). I discovered that in your Shulchan Aruch. It should all be
in the Usenet archives, all dated, all on the record. Usenet is not
something you can just add something to it, or delete it. Let's round it
to me trying to get through to you since 2010, to be one the save side.
That would then become the Jewish year 5 990, still 10 whole years until
the year 6 000. You wasted that time, by your choice and your vices, I
guess you could put it that way.

*

Supposedly the world is to be judged. Am I supposed to give you the
judgement which I feel is fit for the world ?

I saw the world like so, this is when I was young I guess. It is neither
good, nor evil, it is both good and evil. It seems unable to make the
choice, it is a dime on its side. Therefore "the forces of heaven, we"
should force an executive decision by ourselves, and that will of course
mean that the world will be good. Forever good. There is good in the
world, but I am personally also extremely angry about the evil. I am
easily angry enough to want the whole world destroyed and humanity back
in the stone age for 40 000 years for starters, to rethink their evil
and to wash it away from them. With Stone Age I mean, hunter gatherers,
like animals, no farming. The whole thing which you say started with
Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden, which I interpret now to be farming
'the neolithic Revolution' will be over. Back to hunter gatherer bands,
10 over here, endless lands with nobody, and then a small fire and a
small family. Well, etc etc yaddayaddyadda.

If you think more rationally, this mess which is humanity, but it has
good in it, cannot allowed to enter the Universe, because they would
probably be like criminals. It may not be necessary to entirely go back
to the Stone Age, but humanity has to be reformed or reform itself.
This for as much as the whole world, but it's just my kind of random
impression / opinion.

Then about Israel, I see that there are Jews who have a 'heart of gold'.
I see that there are a lot of worthwhile Jewish people. There are also
gentiles who are having 'hearts of gold' also, but it seems to be fewer
per capita.

The logic in my opinion becomes: whatever is necessary to get humans to
behave correctly, and if they die in the process because they cling so
strongly to their evil, then maybe that eventually was the way it had to
be. The bad times are like an operation to correct humanity. If humanity
or this culture or even farming cannot survive the pressure of misery
and dying that is eventually necessary, then so be it. It was more evil
than thought perhaps. They can then have something to think about when
they have (nearly) died out.

The stupidity of the common man is unacceptable. The lying of Science is unacceptable, and of course the deceit by the ruling class is also
totally unacceptable. There is too much which is unacceptable, from
Monetary organization of Nations to war propaganda and the worship of
idols and just the overall stupidity, it is too much to mention case by
case. Then on the other hand, a man laughs and opens the door for a
small child, a woman gives a donation to a charity, a city politician
creates a good plan for a road crossing, a street worker puts in the
stones with precision and skill, an electrician jumps out of bed to
repair a neighborhood power cable in the middle of the night, a teacher
worries about a student, a group of children resque a duck stuck in a
net, ...

There is good and there is evil, there is good and there is stupidity.
The good is not good enough, and the evil is not all powerful enough, to
call humanity either good or evil. Humans even seem to think this is an acceptable condition, to be both good and evil. This is not the case.
Like I said, why don't you say that to my face, and I'll kick you hard
in the shins and ask you how much you like "evil" in the world now. Evil
is like jumping nose first in a dog turd on the street, because you want
to revel in your freedom to do that. It's insane, stupid.

Yaddayadda etc etc.

*

So, you have a big problem now, do you see it ? The time for 'moshiach'
to arrive, is alredy past. This means you will have to choose from
someone who was already here before a few years ago. You cannot even get someone who is just 'arriving' now for the first time, because that is
after the year 6 000, or unless you want to start playing it loose with
that rule I suppose. I mean, what do know, maybe it would be so ? It
does go against this rule though, whereas I do not.

However, back on topic I guess: you cling to the prosbul, so it is case
over for you all. You have no standing, maybe it is better if you kept
quiet than until you repented, found the courage to repent. Humanity is
abusing it's powers, which are the powers to live forever as a species,
to solve all problems including sickness and poverty and so on. This
great power they are now abusing, and it will therefore become self destructive. This is a great power, and therefore the destruction will
be great. That is the natural side of it all. You abuse this great
power, then the destruction is so great until you eventually loose the
ability to have that great power. This seems to be how the world is in
balance and restores the balance. You or even the entire species might
not survive the rebalancing of nature, and that would in that case be
the rebalancing of the problem, the correction of the problem.

Hence, everything is working perfectly. You have been warned, and shown
a way out, all on time and it was all more than enough to fix the issues
- if only you had wanted to. You did not, thus you shall have to suffer
the consequences which come with whatever you decided to do instead.

I don't know why you are this obstinate, and then again I can start
making a nearly endless list of why this is. You don't seem to
comprehend your own illogical positions, such as that the Alter Rebbe
already said that 'moshiach' would be secular, and then yet there are
Jews who think a dead person who was highly religious is the 'moshiach',
and that is all from within one movement. How can this all be ? I think
your rejection of the truth is probably because of baseless hatred. You
don't even know me at all, you really have a complete zero idea of what
kind of person I would be in real life, but nevertheless you think you
have the right to hate, to ridicule, to haughtiness and to silence.

I warn you for your own benefit: you will have to pay the price for your choices, and you already are. It isn't going to be good enough when you
say afterwards "but I thought that ..." or "it was my impression so...".
That is not going to cut it. You are liable for choices, even if you
make them rashly and with shallow emotions of hatred and bias. At this
point at least I am starting to feel, that Jewish people are not my
friends, because they do not stand with the good. I cannot stand with
people who do not want good. We seem to be on opposite sides at this
point. I still do my job to try to help you in an organizational and ideological sense, but it doesn't feel like I am helping a friend.
I thought you where a good people, and there is good in Israel, but now
you are over there and we are not standing together. You chose against
the truth and what is good.

Hence if you want, this is how we get to the second holocaust, the next
round of punishment, 7 times worse than the Nazi holocaust, and likely
95% of you will die. This would be the first wave of your punishment
from this point on, for rejecting the truth, rejecting the Torah, even rejecting your own Redemption. After that, if you still refuse to listen
to the truth, you will probably almost all be wiped out and literally
maybe only a few dozen of you will survive. If it has to come to that,
but that would probably come later, we might indeed reach that point
where farming on Earth has ended and we are back to "normal" in the
Stone Age.

At that point, it is probably not necessary to have any more punishments
and rectifications on humanity, even if it is evil still, because it is
as powerless as a common animal and indeed will be on the run for them.
It might take many thousands of years before humanity would need to be
judged again, and perhaps deserves help or further 'work' so to say.

This is the thing you are staring down into, because of your choices.
We should be living a great life already, the great world Shabbos should already have begun.

Do you realize that *you* created the Jesus western religion, which is
in the mold of Hillel ? You created Islam without a Jubilee on land,
because you had already given up on your Jubilee, hadn't you. If you had
still been doing the Jubilee, there was probably a good chance that
Muhammed would have taken it over in whole. If you had kept to your
Torah during the Roman Empire, not 'Jesus' might be what the western
gentiles are looking to, but Mozes. This is how you have destroyed your
chances to correct the entire world. Now you are faced with the
consequences. It doesn't matter if you think it was humanly unfair. It
was the chance you had, wasn't it ?

Return to the truth, to humility, charity, your Torah, and stop lying
with your prosbul, heter iska, failure to do the Jubilee on land and
failure to distribute the land to all, etc. Listen to your prophets at dani18.com

Why do you make it so hard. I ask you to have a brain. I would prefer if
the side of the *enemy* had miracles, as also someone has suggested, so
that you can be further tested: are you merely a follower of magic, or
do you use your brain and you understand. So you are waiting on nothing
if you wait for miracles or for the herd to start moving to you can
brainlessly move with them and have your "I feel safe" (/winey voice)
moment. If you wait, then I wait. If you want miracles, you can probably
be fooled, so what's that worth, how can you shoulder your Nation into
the future and safeguard it, fight for it's justice & peace ? The
greatest miracle of all, is that nature goes on in a predictable way,
and that we are limited creatures in a big world.

Sorry about this endless yaddayadda, just waisting my and your time I
guess, sorry. Don't blame me later for not being obvious enough, or not
trying hard enough, or not being on time, not giving you time, not being
clear or logical, etc. You can blame me for not using miracles or being
capable of miracles - but that is how it should be. Brainless fools can
go to the circus and be amazed and believe the magicians are gods who
must know everything. You had that chance already with your Mozes and
your God. It had an effect, but you see it also lost it's appeal over
time. I look now for something more solid: not belief but understanding,
not miracles but knowing, not authority but conversation.

The whole 'moshiach' deal cuts against that in some ways. How and why
this is supposed to work out in the end: I don't know. Maybe it was all
a mistake.

*

So here we go again, the Rabbis got it wrong and it took just two men to correct them (links above). Do the Rabbis listen to their arguments ?
Nope. Nothing gets solved, nothing gets fixed. Are they wrong, links
above ? Then argue your case, thanks. If you cannot, then be corrected.

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