• STOP THE SLAUGHTER IN PALESTINE

    From NefeshBarYochai@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 05:37:01 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y

    by Eric Margolis

    December 8, 2023

    Palestinians have become sand in the eyes of the Mideast. How did this
    happen? From where did they come?

    Nowhere, according to the late Israeli prime minister Golda Meir. She
    insisted Palestinians did not exist and were merely human flotsam and
    jetsam. That was pretty rich coming from Golda Mabovich, born to a
    Jewish family in Kiev, Russia.

    So where did the Palestinians come from who are now under terrifying
    siege by Israeli forces in and around Gaza, with 15,000 killed so far
    by Israeli bombing, half of them children? These Palestinians came
    from next door Galilee in Palestine. They are third generation
    refugees.

    In the early 1950’s, my mother, a journalist and lecturer, went to
    Palestine sponsored by a number of US newspapers and, secretly, by the
    US State Department.

    Newly founded Israel’s official position was that Palestine – and
    particularly the fertile Galilee region – was a ‘land without people
    for a people without land (meaning Jewish immigrants).’

    My mother discovered hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees
    living in huts made from tin cans or cardboard boxes. There were some
    tents erected by foreign aid agencies and the United Nations. The
    refugees were huddled together in the biting cold. Many were near
    starvation.

    There was only a handful of doctors or medical personnel, and no
    hospitals. Jewish settlers from Eastern Europe were moving in and
    seizing all the arable land. The United States was financing these
    settlers. Donations to Israel in the US were, mostly, tax deductible.
    The propaganda book ‘Exodus’ and subsequent film paved the way for the
    seizure of Palestinian land.

    Those who opposed the Zionist agenda were viciously attacked. The
    newspapers for whom my mother wrote were cowed into silence.
    Newspapers were threatened with boycotts by their vital advertisers if
    they did not eliminate my mother’s writings and lectures on Palestine.

    Worse, pro-Israel supporters began banging on our front door in New
    York City, screaming death threats that included throwing acid into my
    mother’s face and mine. The war was not long over then and emotions
    after the Holocaust were still raw.

    My mother was eventually terrified into silence because of threats of
    me being blinded by acid. She was forced to give up exposing the
    miserable fate of Palestinians. Meanwhile, Jews and non-Jews from
    Eastern Europe continued to pour into Palestine and expropriate Arab
    owned land. Usually with help from the Israeli government or American
    Zionist organizations.

    When Israel’s new hard right government coalition came to power this
    year, one of its first acts was to proclaim it would continue ethnic
    cleansing in Galilee and further expand settlements on the border with
    Gaza. Israel’s newly impowered hard right – a group that the late
    great Israeli columnist Uri Avnery termed ‘Jewish fascists’ – also had
    its eye on Gaza and its 2 million Arab inhabitants, who were the
    victims of the very kind of ethnic cleansing the US rightly condemned
    in Kosovo and Serbia. That’s what lit the fuse for attacks near Gaza
    by Hamas – ironically whose founding was abetted and financed by
    Israel to split the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) led by the
    late Yasser Arafat, who was later likely murdered by Israeli poison
    experts from Russia.

    Israel’s far right has secured almost total control of the Biden administration, including the president and secretary of state.
    Congress jumped to its feet to applaud Netanyahu while
    cold-shouldering President Obama. Those tax-deductible US donations
    and over $5.5 billion annual overt and covert aid to Israel (before
    Ukraine became the leading recipient of American money), plus
    similarly generated aid to Ukraine make the capture of US foreign
    policy possible. The few media critics who protest this kidnapping of
    US policy and funds are ignored, sidelined or blacklisted.

    For a shocking example, I was just ‘bought off’ a major TV public news
    network for a payment of $2 million.

    Americans who rely for news on the big six news outfits get data
    prepared for them by Israel’s mighty propaganda machines. That’s why
    the Mideast news in France, Italy and Spain is so very different. Even Britain’s once independent-minded BBC now toes the line from Israel
    while the man who exposed US war crimes in Iraq – Julian Assange –
    rots in a British maximum-security prison. So much for the famed ‘free
    press.’

    https://ericmargolis.com/2023/12/stop-the-slaughter-in-palestine/


    "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"

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  • From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Mon Dec 18 08:57:50 2023
    On 2023-12-18, NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote:
    by Eric Margolis
    December 8, 2023
    [...]
    Americans who rely for news on the big six news outfits get data
    prepared for them by IsraelÂ’s mighty propaganda machines. ThatÂ’s why
    the Mideast news in France, Italy and Spain is so very different. Even BritainÂ’s once independent-minded BBC now toes the line from Israel
    while the man who exposed US war crimes in Iraq – Julian Assange –
    rots in a British maximum-security prison. So much for the famed ‘free press.’
    https://ericmargolis.com/2023/12/stop-the-slaughter-in-palestine/
    "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"

    The press is bought up by the people with the money to do it. The super
    rich always eventually destroy a Nation from the inside out, if they
    are allowed to come about (aka Plutocracy).

    People set up their Nation in such a way that this will occur.
    Especially markets in land (places, soil, country) are damaging in
    this regard. People don't even care to think about the issue because
    they are pre-occupied with themselves only. They care about themselves
    only, just like the super rich they will be ruled and sometimes killed
    by. This is their just fate, they did it to themselves.

    You cannot allow markets in land in perpetuity, it goes against the laws
    of economics (the market). Trade finds a price around fairness (equal
    effort) based on competition and availability. If something is very
    profitable per standardized hour of work, more people will start doing
    it (in a correct economic model, which allows for this shift). More
    people doing it means more products/services are offered, and the
    competition drives the price down back to fairness.

    A breach in this system are passive positions of power, such as the USA conquesting other people's oil fields. Another aspect of it is that the
    price in the market is a representation of the effort it takes to make.
    You have to be able to produce more or less as an economy, if need be an overwhelming amount driving the price down greatly.

    These things are not true for land (the place, soil, country). Land is
    not manufactured by humans like toys in a factory. Owning land is a power position. To allow for freedom, initiative and this aforementioned shift
    in production to take place, everyone needs their equal value share of
    this power position: ownership of land.

    You should be able to see easily how a small business which is standing
    on free land, upon which is for example a self made shed and some tools
    the person bought, can never go bankrupt even under conditions of zero
    demand. The shed just stands on the land. The tools lay in the shed.
    Summers come and go, winters pass by, nothing changes.

    This is how people can protect themselves from the psychopaths of money,
    to be free and live in a fair economy. It should help considerably with destroying the extreme wealth by which the super rich are destroying the
    world. That wealth should simply not exist. In my opinion it should also directly be outlawed to be that rich, but that is another topic.

    The super rich are a cancer tumor in the economy. They grow their
    operations without limit, push aside everything else including
    eventually even the State and then entire Nations.

    By the way, you will find these evil super rich people in charge of both Palestine and the Zionist rebel State. Over hanging all this is the USA
    global evil Empire, who needs war and bloodshed like perhaps never
    before because their Empire of (currency) looting is slowly imploding.
    USA will fall as a Republic, if it hasn't already. They are a Tyranny
    now, with global reach (see indeed Julian Assange).

    These things which I wrote about the economy: it is not acceptable for
    ordinary people to not understand these things. If you fail to know
    these things, you would have to count for a fool, a danger to your
    people. This is not just some random theory we can think about at
    leisure. It is on us to keep our Nations in good order, and if it takes
    work we better start NOW. Humanity is a fool, and will pay a heavy price
    in blood for their stupidity and evil, their looking away from serious
    problems at the heart of this society.

    At this point it is better for humanity to almost die out and return to
    simpler times, where they can damage each other a little less perhaps.
    This is how serious it is. People will perhaps understand better how
    serious it is during and after the coming global Nuclear War. I realize
    things can look tidy and some things can seem to go well even. There is
    at least some help for the poor, etc.

    It is like an old bridge which will fall down any second, taking the
    lives of those upon it. So long as it still goes, it looks more or less
    good. It serves its purpose. Once it has fallen down and the blood of
    the dead is splattered upon the ruins, you will see better what you
    have been doing and what it was worth.

    P.S.

    Incidentally, the Torah has laws for land distribution forever, unlike
    Islam. Therefore this people, if they are willing to do these laws,
    need a place to do it, and this could save humanity from their own
    stupidity and evil in the end. These people are called Israel, although
    currently ruled by their criminals, just like the Palestinians. This
    doesn't mean Palestinians should be destroyed, but if Israel wishes to
    do their law, they have a right to a place like few if any other people
    have a right to a place. The land of Israel is that land in the area of
    Yerushalayim. This has been their land from a long time ago, which they
    apparently conquered from peoples who where particularly violent.

    If you read this correctly, you will of course note that Israel is *not*
    doing their laws, and therefore does *not* have the right to their
    land. The onslaught against Gaza, to seemingly depopulate it and annex
    it to the Zionist Rebel State, is not by right in the Torah. Israel does
    not have the right to be in the land of Israel, because they refuse to
    do the Torah. This makes the entire war illegal it seems to me. Once
    however Israel decised to do their law, they have a right to their
    lands. How that is supposed to work, I do not know, but there is some
    hope because at that point Israel will probably no longer be ruled by
    their ciminals and super rich. In terms of the Torah, it is still a
    point of interest I think, that this festival which was attacked by
    Hamas was dancing before a large raised idol statue of far eastern
    origin. This act carries the death penalty in the Torah, the Jewish law.

    If the Palestinians want to get serious with Justice and Peace, they
    should also hold to laws of free land for all and forever. If they do,
    they could become an example Nation to the whole world. I don't know
    how likely this is. I would say: not very. Israel is more likely to do
    it, due to history and other factors.

    *

    By the way, the United Nations is putting up tents again ? I hope you
    see the propaganda game with this. The U.N. is the worst monstrocity of
    a Tyranny we will hopefully never see on Earth, and they know it.
    Therefore they put up their best smile, until they have their claws
    around your neck and can squeeze your eyes out of their sockets. It is
    a matter of time though. The trap is set and executed with precision,
    patiently waiting for the right moment, probably after the next great
    war. See also UDHR-UN art. 29 section 3.

    This is USA propaganda these days. It is a slow moving but potent poison.
    They are literally after the children. They want children to have
    a sense of positivity with the U.N. Once those children are grown up,
    they will use them as a base for their Tyranny. They did the same with
    the E.U.. They are careful to exploit the turning over of the generations
    and the use of indoctrination.

    They will for example hoist the USA flag and massacre an entire city,
    and then they will hoist their U.N. flag and put tents up for the
    refugees. It might even be the same people doing both. In the top
    these are the same people. They would kill people, so that they can
    have their picture with the United Nations caring for the wounded. This
    is how bad it is. Sure, they will hire some truly caring people for a
    while too. Those will be purged later, when the time comes.

    What do the humans do in the meanwhile ? Eat popcorn while watching a
    boxing match on TV. At least they are sitting next to each other on the
    couch for a while, rather than shouting angrily at each other. You can
    see why humanity will get / deserves Tyranny I guess. The mindlessness
    of it all ...

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  • From dolf@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Mon Dec 18 17:13:02 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    The real #1 - self issue is freedom of #450 - consciousness (inclusive of
    the name YHWH) as guaranteed by arbitrators / facilitators to #492 -
    freewill which are constitutional principles of 29 October 1900 validated
    with entente cordiale 8 April 1904 and values statement to the Balfour Declaration 2 November 1917.

    Did I miss anything about Palestinian and Islamic blasphemy?

    <http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Dalek%20Revival.pdf>


    NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote:
    by Eric Margolis

    December 8, 2023

    Palestinians have become sand in the eyes of the Mideast. How did this happen? From where did they come?

    Nowhere, according to the late Israeli prime minister Golda Meir. She insisted Palestinians did not exist and were merely human flotsam and
    jetsam. That was pretty rich coming from Golda Mabovich, born to a
    Jewish family in Kiev, Russia.

    So where did the Palestinians come from who are now under terrifying
    siege by Israeli forces in and around Gaza, with 15,000 killed so far
    by Israeli bombing, half of them children? These Palestinians came
    from next door Galilee in Palestine. They are third generation
    refugees.

    In the early 1950Â’s, my mother, a journalist and lecturer, went to
    Palestine sponsored by a number of US newspapers and, secretly, by the
    US State Department.

    Newly founded Israel’s official position was that Palestine – and particularly the fertile Galilee region – was a ‘land without people
    for a people without land (meaning Jewish immigrants).Â’

    My mother discovered hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees
    living in huts made from tin cans or cardboard boxes. There were some
    tents erected by foreign aid agencies and the United Nations. The
    refugees were huddled together in the biting cold. Many were near
    starvation.

    There was only a handful of doctors or medical personnel, and no
    hospitals. Jewish settlers from Eastern Europe were moving in and
    seizing all the arable land. The United States was financing these
    settlers. Donations to Israel in the US were, mostly, tax deductible.
    The propaganda book ‘Exodus’ and subsequent film paved the way for the seizure of Palestinian land.

    Those who opposed the Zionist agenda were viciously attacked. The
    newspapers for whom my mother wrote were cowed into silence.
    Newspapers were threatened with boycotts by their vital advertisers if
    they did not eliminate my motherÂ’s writings and lectures on Palestine.

    Worse, pro-Israel supporters began banging on our front door in New
    York City, screaming death threats that included throwing acid into my motherÂ’s face and mine. The war was not long over then and emotions
    after the Holocaust were still raw.

    My mother was eventually terrified into silence because of threats of
    me being blinded by acid. She was forced to give up exposing the
    miserable fate of Palestinians. Meanwhile, Jews and non-Jews from
    Eastern Europe continued to pour into Palestine and expropriate Arab
    owned land. Usually with help from the Israeli government or American
    Zionist organizations.

    When IsraelÂ’s new hard right government coalition came to power this
    year, one of its first acts was to proclaim it would continue ethnic cleansing in Galilee and further expand settlements on the border with
    Gaza. Israel’s newly impowered hard right – a group that the late
    great Israeli columnist Uri Avnery termed ‘Jewish fascists’ – also had
    its eye on Gaza and its 2 million Arab inhabitants, who were the
    victims of the very kind of ethnic cleansing the US rightly condemned
    in Kosovo and Serbia. ThatÂ’s what lit the fuse for attacks near Gaza
    by Hamas – ironically whose founding was abetted and financed by
    Israel to split the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) led by the
    late Yasser Arafat, who was later likely murdered by Israeli poison
    experts from Russia.

    IsraelÂ’s far right has secured almost total control of the Biden administration, including the president and secretary of state.
    Congress jumped to its feet to applaud Netanyahu while
    cold-shouldering President Obama. Those tax-deductible US donations
    and over $5.5 billion annual overt and covert aid to Israel (before
    Ukraine became the leading recipient of American money), plus
    similarly generated aid to Ukraine make the capture of US foreign
    policy possible. The few media critics who protest this kidnapping of
    US policy and funds are ignored, sidelined or blacklisted.

    For a shocking example, I was just ‘bought off’ a major TV public news network for a payment of $2 million.

    Americans who rely for news on the big six news outfits get data
    prepared for them by IsraelÂ’s mighty propaganda machines. ThatÂ’s why
    the Mideast news in France, Italy and Spain is so very different. Even BritainÂ’s once independent-minded BBC now toes the line from Israel
    while the man who exposed US war crimes in Iraq – Julian Assange –
    rots in a British maximum-security prison. So much for the famed ‘free press.’

    https://ericmargolis.com/2023/12/stop-the-slaughter-in-palestine/


    "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free"




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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Stewart on Mon Dec 18 19:13:15 2023
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    On 18/12/2023 13:33, Stewart wrote:

    They are sand in the eyes of HAMAS, who has brought fown upon them the
    wrath of Israel.

    Make no mistake, this is their doing.  They care nothing of the people
    they supposedly govern as long as they believe in their agenda.  They
    are their fodder.

    Have you ever seen ants crossing a rivulet?

    --
    Max Demian

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  • From Peeler@21:1/5 to dolf on Mon Dec 18 13:38:57 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 18 Dec 2023 17:13:02 GMT, dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:

    <FLUSH REPETITIVE BULLSHIT>

    STFU!!!!

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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 20:56:06 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y, uk.legal

    They are sand in the eyes of HAMAS, who has brought fown upon them the
    wrath of Israel.
    Make no mistake, this is their doing. They care nothing of the people
    they supposedly govern as long as they believe in their agenda. They
    are their fodder.

    Make no mistake here, this started at the invention of balfour and will
    result
    in ALL of the roots of Christianity (Palestine) being cleaned of
    the settler scum.
    Your lot from e Europe will not have time to scream.
    Hunting down the "our boys" no matter how far related.
    Gene pool elimination.

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  • From jim.gm4dhj@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 21:01:57 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y

    who gives a toss...let them fight it out 'till the bloody end....

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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Tue Dec 19 11:17:32 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y, uk.legal

    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 21:01:57 +0000, "jim.gm4dhj"
    <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    who gives a toss...let them fight it out 'till the bloody end....


    Arm the victims so the settler vermin get 0% of its own medicine and
    then
    wipe out ukraine - its place of conversion 8th century.

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 19 15:06:43 2023
    XPost: uk.legal, alt.revisionism, uk.d-i-y

    On 18/12/2023 21:01, jim.gm4dhj wrote:

    who gives a toss...let them fight it out 'till the bloody end....

    The end of what? The Jewish state of Israel?

    --
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