• Re: Anti-Semitism: Why Does It Exist? And Why Does it Persist?

    From Jos Boersema@21:1/5 to Deborah Sharavi on Wed Nov 22 08:27:30 2023
    On 2023-11-22, Deborah Sharavi <void@invalid.not> wrote:
    By Mark Weber


    Over the centuries, hostility against Jews has repeatedly erupted in
    terrible violence. Again and again, Jews have been driven out of
    countries where they had been living. Why does anti-Semitism exist?
    And why has rage against Jews broken out, again and again, in the most
    varied nations, eras and cultures? Closely related to this is the
    broader issue of the often contentious relations between Jews and
    non-Jews – a subject that many writers and scholars have called “the
    Jewish question.”

    All too often, discussions of anti-Semitism and the “Jewish question”
    have been distorted by prejudice, bigotry and lack of candor. But this important subject deserves careful, informed and honest consideration.

    Jewish leaders say that they are puzzled by the persistence of
    anti-Jewish sentiment and behavior.

    Because they broke the agreement with their God, and they are leading
    their people away from what they need to do. Perhaps they do so for
    money and pleasure, or because they are merely added people to Israel
    and don't even know, or perhaps because they lack the courage to call
    upon Israel to be good people again, pointing out their failures, and
    return to their law, the Torah. This is what it says. It is clear that
    their God is doing this to them, as a punishment for their crimes.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9927/jewish/Chapter-26.htm

    I will walk among you and be your God, and you will be
    My people.

    I am the Lord, your God, Who took you out of the land of
    Egypt from being slaves to them; and I broke the pegs
    of your yoke and led you upright. But if you do not
    listen to Me and do not perform all these commandments,
    and if you despise My statutes and reject My ordinances,
    not performing any of My commandments, thereby breaking
    My covenant then I too, will do the same to you; I will
    order upon you shock, consumption, fever, and diseases that
    cause hopeless longing and depression. You will sow your
    seed in vain, and your enemies will eat it. I will set My
    attention against you, and you will be smitten before your
    enemies. Your enemies will rule over you; you will flee,
    but no one will be pursuing you.

    And if, during these, you will not listen to Me, I will
    add another seven punishments for your sins: I will
    break the pride of your strength and make your skies like
    iron and your land like copper. Your strength will be
    expended in vain; your land will not yield its produce,
    neither will the tree of the earth give forth its fruit.
    And if you treat Me as happenstance, and you do not wish to
    listen to Me, I will add seven punishments corresponding
    to your sins: I will incite the wild beasts of the field
    against you, and they will bereave you, utterly destroy
    your livestock and diminish you, and your roads will
    become desolate.

    And if, through these, you will still not be chastised
    [to return] to Me, and if you [continue to] treat Me
    happenstance, Then I too, will treat you as happenstance. I
    will again add seven punishments for your sins: I will
    bring upon you an army that avenges the avenging of a
    covenant, and you will gather into your cities. I will
    incite the plague in your midst, and you will be delivered
    into the enemy's hands, when I break for you the staff of
    bread, and ten women will bake your bread in one oven,
    and they will bring back your bread by weight, and you
    will eat, yet not be satisfied.

    And if, despite this, you still do not listen to Me, still
    treating Me as happenstance, I will treat you with a fury
    of happenstance, adding again seven [chastisements] for
    your sins: You will eat the flesh of your sons, and the
    flesh of your daughters you will eat. I will demolish
    your edifices and cut down your sun idols; I will make
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    your corpses [fall] upon the corpses of your idols, and My
    Spirit will reject you. I will lay your cities waste and
    make your holy places desolate, and I will not partake of
    your pleasant fragrances. I will make the Land desolate,
    so that it will become desolate [also] of your enemies
    who live in it. And I will scatter you among the nations,
    and I will unsheathe the sword after you. Your land will
    be desolate, and your cities will be laid waste. Then,
    the land will be appeased regarding its sabbaticals. During
    all the days that it remains desolate while you are in the
    land of your enemies, the Land will rest and thus appease
    its sabbaticals. It will rest during all the days that
    it remains desolate, whatever it had not rested on your
    sabbaticals, when you lived upon it.

    And those of you who survive I will bring fear in their
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    hearts in the lands of their enemies, and the sound of
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    a rustling leaf will pursue them; they will flee as one
    flees the sword, and they will fall, but there will be no
    pursuer. Each man will stumble over his brother, [fleeing]
    as if from the sword, but without a pursuer. You will not
    be able to stand up against your enemies. You will become
    lost among the nations, and the land of your enemies will
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    consume you. And because of their iniquity, those of you
    who survive will rot away in the lands of your enemies;
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    moreover, they will rot away because the iniquities of
    their fathers are still within them.

    They will then confess their iniquity and the iniquity of
    their fathers their betrayal that they dealt Me, and that
    they also treated Me as happenstance. Then I too, will
    treat them as happenstance and bring them [back while]
    in the land of their enemies. If then, their clogged
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    heart becomes humbled, then, [their sufferings] will gain
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    appeasement for their iniquity, and I will remember My
    covenant [with] Jacob, and also My covenant [with] Isaac,
    and also My covenant [with] Abraham I will remember. And
    I will remember the Land,

    [For] the Land will be bereft of them, appeasing its
    sabbaticals when it had been desolate of them, and they
    will gain appeasement for their iniquity. This was all in
    retribution for their having despised My ordinances and
    in retribution for their having rejected My statutes.

    But despite all this, while they are in the land of their
    enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to
    annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with
    them, for I am the Lord their God. I will remember for
    them the covenant [made with] the ancestors, whom I took
    out from the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations,
    to be a God to them. I am the Lord.

    These are the statutes, the ordinances, and the laws that
    the Lord gave between Himself and the children of Israel
    on Mount Sinai, by the hand of Moses.

    End quote.

    Notice in particular here, that the God of the Jewish people, who is the Creator of everything, mentioned a Sun disk idol, when the Jewish people
    are being exiled by Him. I didn't even know that it was in there
    specifically. The current exile started in earnest when the Romans
    destroyed the 2nd Temple. On this Temple, the Jewish people had put a
    Sun disk idol, called the Lamp of Helena. It was a device which
    reflected the early morning Sun light, and upon seeing that Sunlight
    the Jewish people facing the 2nd Temple would recite their morning
    prayer (FWIK). This is how they started to worship the Sun.

    To this day you can find some youtubes from Rabbis, where they have placed
    a glaring light like the Sun upon the location of the 2nd Temple in some picture of it. I didn't know a Menorah candle could shine so brightly ?
    Of course, it didn't.

    Their clogged hearts still did not get humbled, not even after the
    holocaust. The ADL is treating the Jewish God as "Happenstance", as if
    He does not exist, as if He is not laying the agreement He made with
    Israel upon them and executing it faithfully, for their own eventual
    benefit.

    This is how I (undersigned) see it, but you should know, there is little
    or no future with the Nations in the long term. They seem to lack the
    brain and morality to make a long term future on Earth. The violence
    and insanity is too great. They will probably have to be destroyed in
    the end, for the evil they will do to each other. These are my words
    though. Humanity in general is probably headed to a long lasting high technological Tyrannical Dystopia. They also lack the courage and social attitude to come together and overthrow such a Tyranny, or replace it
    with something that can work. If you want to become part of "the
    Nations", you are subscribing yourself to this hellish future, or
    extinction. If you suffer between the Nations, you suffer the eventual
    future you have chosen, and which the world may have to experience
    because the Jewish people did not give the right example. This is how
    you can understand the Justice in the whole affair.

    This is the Sundisk idol, which HKB'H removed. Here we see how the
    Jewish Rabbis are still worshipping the Sun. They still haven't
    given up on their Sun idol. They have not humbled themselves yet.

    https://templeinstitute.org/illustrated-tour-the-temple-mount/

    The two bird's-eye view pictures show the Temple Mount support
    walls highlighted. The bottom picture depicts a group of
    pilgrims facing the Holy Temple from the Mount of Olives, east
    of the Temple Mount. They see, by the reflection of the rising
    sun in the Golden Lamp which was suspended above the entrance
    to the Temple Sanctuary, that it is time to recite the morning
    "Shema" prayer. The lamp was a gift from Queen Helena, a convert
    to Judaism.

    End quote.

    title: The Holy Temple - Constructing the Golden Lamp of Queen Helena
    link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr0eLREjc7E
    source: The Temple Institute

    This Sun idol is apparently still not yet ready. Perhaps it is a good
    sign, maybe they are rethinking this device. https://templeinstitute.org/gallery/

    What should happen is that they loudly proclaim that HKB'H had been
    right, the late 2nd Temple era was corrupt, they had put a Sundisk idol
    upon the Temple. Their God has acted justly and precisely according to
    their agreement with Him. They should probably tear their clothes in
    horror and sadness of their idolatry, wether it was with ill intent to
    turn away from their God or by ignorance or lack of care and precision.
    Then the Jewish people may see that their God did as He told them He
    would, if they broke away from Him and broke His laws. This may inspire
    the people of Israel, to do the same and return to HKB'H.

    They could make it complete by doing the same to their Lamp of Helena,
    or whatever they have finished with it, as Moshe Rabbeinu did with the
    Golden Calf in the desert. Find a way to make it right.

    Just slinking away in the night, hiding the idol and pretend it didn't
    happen, even that wouldn't be too bad because at least the idol has been
    done away with. It would however also show a lack of humility and
    honesty. It would be better to be open about it, because all of Israel
    is guilty over it, except those who fought against it if any, since it
    happened on their 2nd Temple for all to see, and now again it happens
    there in Yerushalayim for all to see - yet what do they do ?

    Insisting that anti-Semitism is a baseless and unreasonable prejudice, they often compare it to a
    mysterious virus or disease.

    They don't acknowledge that this is part of the Covenant / Agreement,
    Israel has made with their God, through Moshe Rabbeinu. By this fact
    alone already, which is breaking with the Covenant, this anti-semitism
    is incited by heaven against them, because that is exactly what it is
    saying.

    The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is one of the world’s largest and
    most influential Jewish-Zionist organizations. It considers itself the foremost center for monitoring and combating anti-Semitism, and
    educating the public about this dangerous phenomenon. ADL national
    director Abraham Foxman, writing in his book Never Again?, expressed
    grave concern about what he sees as rising hostility toward Jews. “I

    Return to your Torah, and it should never happen again. Have you tried
    that ?

    You will not
    be able to stand up against your enemies.

    End quote. Did it work yet, ADL ? How long have you been busy ? You see
    it all means nothing what you do.

    am convinced,” he wrote, “we currently face as great a threat to the
    safety and security of the Jewish people as the one we faced in the
    1930s – if not a greater one.” / 1 He also claimed to be perplexed
    about the reasons for the origin and durability of discord between
    Jews and non-Jews. “I think of anti-Semitism as a disease,” Foxman
    writes. “Anti-Semitism also resembles a disease in being fundamentally irrational ... It’s a spiritual and psychological illness.” / 2

    Elie Wiesel was one of the best-known Jewish authors and community
    figures of modern times. His memoir of wartime experiences, entitled
    Night, has been obligatory reading in many classrooms. He was a Nobel
    Peace Prize recipient, and for years was a professor at Boston
    University. Although Wiesel was considered to be an authority on anti-Semitism, he said that he’s puzzled by it. The source and
    endurance of anti-Semitism in history remains a mystery, he told an
    audience in Germany in 2004. / 3 In another address he described anti-Semitism as an “irrational disease.” Speaking at a conference in
    2002, Wiesel went on to say: “The world has changed in the last 2,000
    years, and only anti-Semitism has remained ... The only disease that
    has not found its cure is anti-Semitism.” / 4

    The cure is in the Torah. The cure is the Jewish people doing their
    Torah. This will make Israel great in the eyes of the Nations, and
    heaven should do the rest if necessary. Anti-semitism is then a disease
    for which the cure was known long before the cure of many other
    diseases. Anti-semitism is even itself the cure, a cure prescribed by
    the Torah for a rebellious Israel, who does not want to listen to her
    God. It is a cure for Israel, who thinks it is better to listen to the
    Sun, than to the Creator of everything and His Covenant with them.

    Eh, what did the Sun say lately ? I don't have a clue, it doesn't talk.
    How convenient for a corrupt priesthood, to have a god without a mouth,
    a god without eyes, so they will be the eyes, the mouth and the stomach instead. You see the game here ?

    Charles Krauthammer, an influential Jewish-American writer who is a
    fervent defender of Israel, has similarly been puzzled by the
    endurance of anti-Jewish sentiment. “The persistence of anti-Semitism,
    that most ancient of poisons, is one of history’s great mysteries,” he wrote in a Washington Post column that also appeared in many other
    newspapers across the country. / 5

    Fine, call it a miracle then, and by that we are back at the Torah. You
    cannot figure it out ? If that really is true, then it points to a
    miracle of sorts, doesn't it. It points to HKB'H, who said He would do
    this to you.

    [...]
    Anti-Semitism is not a mysterious “disease.” As Herzl and Weizmann suggested, and as history shows, what is often called anti-Semitism is
    the natural and understandable attitude of people toward a minority
    with particularist loyalties that wields greatly disproportionate
    power for its own interests, rather than for the common good.
    [...]

    Very doubtful this latest thing, but who am I to know. First of all,
    people with great wealth are not assumed to care about anything but
    themselves, so that is nothing new. The Jewish people also do not wield disproportionate power. Some may be wealthy, others are poor, it doesn't
    seem to matter.

    It is noteworthy that "the Nations" generally show hatred toward
    everything and anything that is different from that particular person.
    Muslems are also hated by many people, and probably western people
    living in Muslem countries are hated by a lot of those Muslems. There is
    just a whole lot of hatred going around in general. One of the special
    issues which hits the Jewish people however, is the Jesus fraud
    religion, which according to "Ceasar's Messiah" (see youtube)
    researchers group, was specifically set up to generate this hatred. This
    came apparently from Roman times, when Jewish rebellion was difficult to
    deal with, and they wanted a propaganda device to weaken the Jewish
    people (my interpretation partially also maybe). It may also have been
    revenge for an Emperor loosing an arm (IIRC) in a war against the Jewish people.

    The Jewish people are broadly speaking, better than most if not all
    Nations, which is probably due to the extend they have or are still
    following the Torah. It creates stupidity to live under Tyranny. The
    Tyrant literally is murdering your smart and creative people, out of
    fear of them. If you distribute the land to all, the creative and
    competent rise to the top. This makes you a great people. Jewish people
    are known to be literate for a long time already. They have their great
    Torah, who has anything close to it ? The "real Jew" is generally a more intelligent person, and more creative, and also has a loving heart. The
    saying "two Jews, three opinions" says enough. It should be noted
    however that these days, if I sometimes see Jewish people on TV or
    something like that, I seriously wonder if they are in any way Jewish.
    They seem to be completely the same as the goyim, in every way.

    These issues can create jeaulousy and spite against the Jewish people.
    You can be greatly hated for being and wanting to be a good person.

    It seems that some people will never seem to be Jewish, no matter how
    many Tefilin they put on or let their beards grow. Other people it seems
    they can never be a goy, no matter how they dress like them, go to
    parties like them and ignore the Torah to the point of not even knowing
    it exists, like them - and they are still Jewish through and through.
    Their heart is still Jewish, one way or the other.

    However, it is not going to be enough for this world to just be a good
    hearted person. Correct laws have to be followed ! This world is a mess
    with criminals on top. This has to change, immediately. This garbage
    planet cannot go on this way. You can be nice and friendly all you want, understanding and smart about everything, but if you don't enact and
    "play" a correct economic model, and also a functioning State (which it
    seems you will not achieve in a long time yet, but we shall see), if you
    don't make sure you have your land for free and everyone else has their
    land for free, you will end up ruled by the rich and the criminal. Their
    evil, lies and wars, cannot be sustained in the long term. You have to
    do the minimum.

    You can have a friendly debate on a boat all you want, you can be
    generous on a boat all you want, but if the boat is leaking then it goes
    down one way or the other. You have to plug the hole, you have to get
    the water out. It is not good enough to just be nice and friendly, or of
    good will. You have to actually do the correct thing. You have to
    distribute the land to all, you have to cut out with your mindless
    idolatry so that your brain works and you can help people, if
    necessary overthrow a corrupt Government and install a better one, etc.

    It isn't good enough anymore for Abraham to just have one tent for his visitors. He needs an entire Nation, to do what is right and save
    humanity from creating hell on Earth in the future - or just them going
    on the way they are is already bad enough. Look at all these destroyed
    Nations and the hopeless lives of the landless poor. Why is this planet
    such a catastrophe ?

    Sigh.

    In short: Anti-Defimation-League is in a state of treason for pretending
    their God doesn't create this anti-semitism, and that it means they do
    not do enough Torah. This is *your* Covenant with your God. Anyone
    can even read it and tell you the same. It is that obvious. "Oh, but we
    don't believe in God, didn't you know?" Well, fine you make your
    choices, but this is exactly that you are not allowed to do. Why not go
    all the way then, and stop claiming to be Jewish alltogether. Leave and
    be sieved out, as Amos said. Worship your idols with the Nations and
    become indistinguishable from them. That will solve your problem with anti-semitism, and it will releave Israel from the people who are merely
    dead moral weight who don't want to do their part. Problem solved.
    Choose. Either this or that, but not both.

    Ah got it, you want both, *and* complain about it. Then you have what
    you want now, and that solves the problem. Sorry, this seems to be the
    way that it is. I wish it was easier but really, is the Torah that hard
    for you ? Is it that hard to nullify a loan in the 7th year, are you
    that greedy ? Is it that hard to resist idolatry ?

    Etc etc yaddayadda (lol). Still haven't found the cure for this non-stop writing. I keep trying to stop but my fingers keep going.

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