Source: The Torah Channel
Name: ISRAEL WILL WIN! VICTORY IS NEAR! 100%
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgXkvZvmNCA

Uff... no. So lost, you talk like a gentile, like us versus them based
on a flag or a language. You chatter about the Torah: more charity,
more prayer. Fine do that, but it isn't enough. Others do that too,
in fact even criminals sometimes do charity (though not with good
intentions). Where are the old and serious people of Israel, with the
guts to *rebuke* their own people ?

Who here doesn't know that idolatry (and homosexuality as well) are _death sentences_ in the Torah ? At this supernova festival, they where dancing
in front of a very large (4-6 meter high) statue (idol) of a far eastern religion. It was made with refinement, to look real, although it was all
dark grey. They did this in the land of Israel. So when you say "Israel
will win", in an historical (and I mean, thousands of years with that),
and Torah sense, that means the people at this festival are basically the enemy. You can say: they where confused, stupid and ignorant and young,
they lack education so they are therefore innocent. Fine ! This may be
very true, so who is guilty over their youthful ignorance ? Isn't there a
Rabbi around to tell them the dangers of idolatry ? Do you even _know_ the dangers of idolatry ? These days everything needs to be argued logically,
but that is not a challenge to forego no. No, grab it with both hands.

I am not sure you have the right to just say that "everyone" will
live and be resurrected and all that, because look at the state of
Israel (and it's State). It is not going well at all. It is basically a disaster. Israel has more or less completely given up on the Torah. There
is no distribution of the land to all, which was one of the big things
that happened when Israel took the land from an amount of very bad people
(so we read in the Torah). You simply refused to do it, didn't even
talk about it ! There where a few Kibutzim on this model, and _viola!_
they are the only Kibutzim who are still functioning more or less
(well, I read that somewhere). The rest where _Socialist_ which meant
to them they opposed the Torah also (!). Then we have Herzl, who wanted
to convert all Jewish people to Catholicism, and he set up this State
with the rich. Jewish ?! The most lost and disloyal parts of the Jewish
people set up this State. Money talks however, and the Rabbis caved in to
this thing, step by step. Every generation is lower than the one before:
indeed it seems to be so.

Now we have Rabbis siding with idolators, thinking the war is merely
about one group versus the other. With God's help you are going to
punish _who hurt us_ ? So you side with the idolators at Supernova
festival ? How about you do the more traditional thing for a Rabbi,
and say something like "We must apologize to the Muslems for committing idolatry in this land at the Supernova festival, and make sure it doesn't happen again." Why did these Supernova people put ignorant young people so
in danger, so close to Gaza, knowing (one has to presume?) that Muslems
and particularly radical Muslems who are angry already can become very
upset about this idolatry under their noses, besides the wastefulness of
it all, when their families are probably suffering quite badly (I can't
imagine living in Gaza is too nice, but to be honest I wouldn't know).

Hai! You want revenge ... how many fold ? Even the Torah only subscribes
1:1 revenge, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. The most
natural and perfect form of Justice, though a bit simple perhaps. A
good baseline. You however want to go the American way, where they have
now taken a revenge for 9/11 at a staggering revenge rate of 1:1500,
_one thousand five hundred_ dead for one American, and these people in
the Middle East didn't even do this crime of 9/11. Listen to yourself
man. Do you know the reality of this kind of a revenge ? How many people
who have nothing to do with anything anyway are going to die. What does
some Palestinian mother with children have to do with it, even though
some might support whatever they get told locally. Infinite revenge,
siding with idolatry, and believing that this Israeli State is the
Redemption or anything close to it ?

I think this is going to happen instead: the second holocaust, but *seven
times worse,* according to the punishment section in the Torah. The Nazi holocaust has not lead to real repentance, it was not good enough. The
way I see this Israeli State is, if you want to go religious: the God of
Israel allowed his people to experience this fluke, this anti-Jewish and anti-Torah system in the holy land, to once and for all see that ... you
end up with _nothing_ if you betray the truth and the needs of Justice -
the Torah that is, which has a lot of very important rules (personally
I care a lot about it's economic rules, which are broken all around,
and this already began with Hillel the Elder and may have been a key
factor in the start of the exile).

Things are a lot more serious than people seem to think. Death and
war will drive that fact home. Maybe then Israel will care: doing away
with the idols (also at it's Supreme Court), distributing the land and
finally breaking with the prosbul and this modern weak form of Judaism,
started by Hillel the Elder (FWIK).

So let me get this right: you think the God of the Jewish people, who is against idolatry and this is what much of the Tanach is about, is going
to bring you victory in this war, even though Israel has broken with
the Torah and was dancing before an idol, and right there this position
of the idol was assaulted and destroyed by the attack from Gaza ? Does
that make any sense to anyone ? Not to me.

But you are right, it is the land of Israel, and Israel is the apple
of God's eye, and very important. But you have to do the Torah, or
the example Nation is worthless, and indeed _does not have the right
to that land._ You only have the right to the land of Israel, if you
do the Torah. You have fewer rights than gentiles to be there, because
your God said he would remove you if you fail, right ? It's all in the
Torah, I say nothing new here. Have a good day. I'm glad you haven't
been hurt. I may sound angry, I do it for your all benefit, ok ?

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P.S. Instantly deleted from youtube. Probably not by the owner of the
channel, but by the ruling class sencorship system.

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