On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
    British slang (derogatory).
    In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a young >>>     person of a type characterized by brash and loutish behaviour and >>>     the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp. sportswear); usually >>>     with connotations of a low social status.
This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers are
appealing to something completely different from their target demographic.
Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their clothes,
isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different designers
target different demographics.
On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:00:03 -0600, Jerry Friedman
<jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
British slang (derogatory).
In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a young
person of a type characterized by brash and loutish behaviour and >>> the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp. sportswear); usually
with connotations of a low social status.
This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers are
appealing to something completely different from their target demographic.
Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their clothes,
isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different designers
target different demographics.
Perhaps British chaves are the eqivalent of the South African
izikhothane?
<https://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/izikhothane-a-new-word-for-an-old-fashion/>
In article <6npeee1vj2u3l4grgf2nmf28j1pfh1ao6n@4ax.com>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:00:03 -0600, Jerry Friedman
<jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
British slang (derogatory).
In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a
young person of a type characterized by brash and loutish
behaviour and the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp.
sportswear); usually with connotations of a low social
status.
This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers
are appealing to something completely different from their target
demographic.
Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their
clothes, isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different
designers target different demographics.
Perhaps British chaves are the eqivalent of the South African
izikhothane?
<https://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/izikhothane-a-new-word-for-an
-old-fashion/>
No, that would imply a level of social and/or cultural awareness
beyond the ken of chavs.
On Fri, 24 May 2019 11:51:07 GMT, Janet <Janet@somewhere.com> wrote:
In article <6npeee1vj2u3l4grgf2nmf28j1pfh1ao6n@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:00:03 -0600, Jerry Friedman
<jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
    British slang (derogatory).
    In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a
young     person of a type characterized by brash and loutish
behaviour and     the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp.
sportswear); usually     with connotations of a low social
status.
This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers
are appealing to something completely different from their target
demographic.
Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their
clothes, isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different
designers target different demographics.
Perhaps British chaves are the eqivalent of the South African
izikhothane?
<https://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/izikhothane-a-new-word-for-an
-old-fashion/>
No, that would imply a level of social and/or cultural awareness
beyond the ken of chavs.
Harsh. "Chav" is a British sub-culture. Not all culture is high culture.
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