• Chav

    From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to jerry_friedman@yahoo.com on Fri May 24 05:41:19 2019
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    On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:00:03 -0600, Jerry Friedman
    <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:

         British slang (derogatory).

         In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a young >>>      person of a type characterized by brash and loutish behaviour and >>>      the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp. sportswear); usually >>>      with connotations of a low social status.

    This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers are
    appealing to something completely different from their target demographic.

    Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their clothes,
    isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different designers
    target different demographics.

    Perhaps British chaves are the eqivalent of the South African
    izikhothane?

    <https://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/izikhothane-a-new-word-for-an-old-fashion/>



    --
    Steve Hayes
    http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    http://khanya.wordpress.com

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  • From Janet@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 24 12:51:07 2019
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    In article <6npeee1vj2u3l4grgf2nmf28j1pfh1ao6n@4ax.com>,
    hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...

    On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:00:03 -0600, Jerry Friedman
    <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:

    British slang (derogatory).

    In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a young
    person of a type characterized by brash and loutish behaviour and >>> the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp. sportswear); usually
    with connotations of a low social status.

    This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers are
    appealing to something completely different from their target demographic.

    Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their clothes,
    isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different designers
    target different demographics.

    Perhaps British chaves are the eqivalent of the South African
    izikhothane?

    <https://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/izikhothane-a-new-word-for-an-old-fashion/>

    No, that would imply a level of social and/or cultural awareness
    beyond the ken of chavs.

    Janet

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  • From Kerr-Mudd,John@21:1/5 to Janet on Fri May 24 19:41:30 2019
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    On Fri, 24 May 2019 11:51:07 GMT, Janet <Janet@somewhere.com> wrote:

    In article <6npeee1vj2u3l4grgf2nmf28j1pfh1ao6n@4ax.com>, hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...

    On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:00:03 -0600, Jerry Friedman
    <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:

    British slang (derogatory).

    In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a
    young person of a type characterized by brash and loutish
    behaviour and the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp.
    sportswear); usually with connotations of a low social
    status.

    This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers
    are appealing to something completely different from their target
    demographic.

    Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their
    clothes, isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different
    designers target different demographics.

    Perhaps British chaves are the eqivalent of the South African
    izikhothane?

    <https://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/izikhothane-a-new-word-for-an
    -old-fashion/>

    No, that would imply a level of social and/or cultural awareness
    beyond the ken of chavs.


    Harsh. "Chav" is a British sub-culture. Not all culture is high culture.




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    Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to John on Fri May 24 20:22:15 2019
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    In message <XnsAA59D27DAFC6Cadmin127001@144.76.35.198> Kerr-Mudd,John <notsaying@invalid.org> wrote:
    On Fri, 24 May 2019 11:51:07 GMT, Janet <Janet@somewhere.com> wrote:

    In article <6npeee1vj2u3l4grgf2nmf28j1pfh1ao6n@4ax.com>,
    hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...

    On Thu, 23 May 2019 07:00:03 -0600, Jerry Friedman
    <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 5/23/19 6:06 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/19 20:15, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:

         British slang (derogatory).

         In the United Kingdom (originally the south of England): a
    young      person of a type characterized by brash and loutish
    behaviour and      the wearing of designer-style clothes (esp.
    sportswear); usually      with connotations of a low social
    status.

    This says something about designer clothes. Perhaps the designers
    are appealing to something completely different from their target
    demographic.

    Perhaps their target demographic, at least for some of their
    clothes, isn't what they'd like you to think it is. Or different
    designers target different demographics.

    Perhaps British chaves are the eqivalent of the South African
    izikhothane?

    <https://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/izikhothane-a-new-word-for-an
    -old-fashion/>

    No, that would imply a level of social and/or cultural awareness
    beyond the ken of chavs.


    Harsh. "Chav" is a British sub-culture. Not all culture is high culture.

    I learned it as "Chav and Neds" and it is not a sub-culture, it is a
    derogatory terms to describe the uneducated oft-violent over-privileged willfully ignorant youth.

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    People only think for themselves if you tell them to.

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