• Catch 22

    From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 10 07:41:38 2022
    Refuse to make peace implies the will to continue fighting
    In one of his first acts as the new commander in chief of the Ukrainian army after Russian attack, Ukrainian President ordered that there will be no retreating from the Russian front in Ukraine. “The will to hold out must be brought home to every unit!"

    Or consider Hitler's Fortified Area orders of 1944 as the Russian Army advanced Not sure how many civilians US bombed to death in order to claim vicyory in WWII, but Russians better on ground in Europe than the other Allies.
    US depends on nuclear deterrence to defend against Russian overwhelming ground forces.
    US air power better, but each plane very expensive and not really meant to invade Russian space as use of unmanned aircraft would be employed, including nuclear missiles, but then US kills more civilians wwith nuclear death. Not good!

    So Ukraine amy to defend each city as a Fortified Area from which insurgency acts are encouraged and supplied by the West.

    Unfortunately, cities have civilians and civilians are trapped in Ukrainian Fortified Areas.

    Siege tactics are employed against Fortified Areas while artillery bombards. Traditional warfare.
    Russians wanted to encourage Ukrainian leader to surrender the fight and Russian army needs not to treat cities as hostile. Sad!
    What about citizens who live in Russian occupied cities Are they being provided food, electricity and water?

    To get Mariupol to surrender, must provide necessary basics to the residents

    Am looking as to how well civilians in occupied towns are treated after surrender of city.

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  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Lazarus Cain on Thu Mar 10 07:46:13 2022
    On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:41:39 AM UTC-6, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    Refuse to make peace implies the will to continue fighting
    In one of his first acts as the new commander in chief of the Ukrainian army after Russian attack, Ukrainian President ordered that there will be no retreating from the Russian front in Ukraine. “The will to hold out must be brought home to every
    unit!"

    Or consider Hitler's Fortified Area orders of 1944 as the Russian Army advanced
    Not sure how many civilians US bombed to death in order to claim vicyory in WWII, but Russians better on ground in Europe than the other Allies.
    US depends on nuclear deterrence to defend against Russian overwhelming ground forces.
    US air power better, but each plane very expensive and not really meant to invade Russian space as use of unmanned aircraft would be employed, including nuclear missiles, but then US kills more civilians wwith nuclear death. Not good!

    So Ukraine amy to defend each city as a Fortified Area from which insurgency acts are encouraged and supplied by the West.

    Unfortunately, cities have civilians and civilians are trapped in Ukrainian Fortified Areas.

    Siege tactics are employed against Fortified Areas while artillery bombards. Traditional warfare.
    Russians wanted to encourage Ukrainian leader to surrender the fight and Russian army needs not to treat cities as hostile. Sad!
    What about citizens who live in Russian occupied cities Are they being provided food, electricity and water?

    To get Mariupol to surrender, must provide necessary basics to the residents

    Am looking as to how well civilians in occupied towns are treated after surrender of city.
    Best strategy:
    Surround each fortified area and advance to surround other fortified areas.
    Do not waste combat resources to advance on each Fortified Area. Simply impose siege.
    Occupy east side of the river and sue for peace

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  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Lazarus Cain on Thu Mar 10 07:48:11 2022
    On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:46:14 AM UTC-6, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:41:39 AM UTC-6, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    Refuse to make peace implies the will to continue fighting
    In one of his first acts as the new commander in chief of the Ukrainian army after Russian attack, Ukrainian President ordered that there will be no retreating from the Russian front in Ukraine. “The will to hold out must be brought home to every
    unit!"

    Or consider Hitler's Fortified Area orders of 1944 as the Russian Army advanced
    Not sure how many civilians US bombed to death in order to claim vicyory in WWII, but Russians better on ground in Europe than the other Allies.
    US depends on nuclear deterrence to defend against Russian overwhelming ground forces.
    US air power better, but each plane very expensive and not really meant to invade Russian space as use of unmanned aircraft would be employed, including nuclear missiles, but then US kills more civilians wwith nuclear death. Not good!

    So Ukraine amy to defend each city as a Fortified Area from which insurgency acts are encouraged and supplied by the West.

    Unfortunately, cities have civilians and civilians are trapped in Ukrainian Fortified Areas.

    Siege tactics are employed against Fortified Areas while artillery bombards. Traditional warfare.
    Russians wanted to encourage Ukrainian leader to surrender the fight and Russian army needs not to treat cities as hostile. Sad!
    What about citizens who live in Russian occupied cities Are they being provided food, electricity and water?

    To get Mariupol to surrender, must provide necessary basics to the residents

    Am looking as to how well civilians in occupied towns are treated after surrender of city.
    Best strategy:
    Surround each fortified area and advance to surround other fortified areas. Do not waste combat resources to advance on each Fortified Area. Simply impose siege.
    Occupy east side of the river and sue for peace
    Siege is a very old war strategy, nothing new, but horrible to experience.

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  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Lazarus Cain on Thu Mar 10 07:53:46 2022
    On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:46:14 AM UTC-6, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 9:41:39 AM UTC-6, Lazarus Cain wrote:
    Refuse to make peace implies the will to continue fighting
    In one of his first acts as the new commander in chief of the Ukrainian army after Russian attack, Ukrainian President ordered that there will be no retreating from the Russian front in Ukraine. “The will to hold out must be brought home to every
    unit!"

    Or consider Hitler's Fortified Area orders of 1944 as the Russian Army advanced
    Not sure how many civilians US bombed to death in order to claim vicyory in WWII, but Russians better on ground in Europe than the other Allies.
    US depends on nuclear deterrence to defend against Russian overwhelming ground forces.
    US air power better, but each plane very expensive and not really meant to invade Russian space as use of unmanned aircraft would be employed, including nuclear missiles, but then US kills more civilians wwith nuclear death. Not good!

    So Ukraine amy to defend each city as a Fortified Area from which insurgency acts are encouraged and supplied by the West.

    Unfortunately, cities have civilians and civilians are trapped in Ukrainian Fortified Areas.

    Siege tactics are employed against Fortified Areas while artillery bombards. Traditional warfare.
    Russians wanted to encourage Ukrainian leader to surrender the fight and Russian army needs not to treat cities as hostile. Sad!
    What about citizens who live in Russian occupied cities Are they being provided food, electricity and water?

    To get Mariupol to surrender, must provide necessary basics to the residents

    Am looking as to how well civilians in occupied towns are treated after surrender of city.
    Best strategy:
    Surround each fortified area and advance to surround other fortified areas. Do not waste combat resources to advance on each Fortified Area. Simply impose siege.
    Occupy east side of the river and sue for peace
    With half the population drafted, any Ukrainian male not wanting to fight must keep mouth shut and fight,
    Therefore, each Ukrainian male subject to being target of enemy fire. The location of each Ukrainian male becomes a target then,
    Sad facts

    Refugees headed to USA eventually. They will be welcome while those from south of the border will not.

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