• Re: Understanding Ukraine's Presidential aide remark on India, China's

    From Raskolynikov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 16:04:19 2023
    Dana petak, 15. rujna 2023. u 21:40:54 UTC+2 korisnik Oleg Smirnov napisao je:
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are
    not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in
    public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV
    that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it
    sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this
    news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the
    activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup
    Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and
    during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the
    violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting
    such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").

    While some congregations labeled the Russian president as "the King of
    the North", and there is an American evangelical and Protestant theory of
    the Russia and Iran being the backbone of the Gog and Magog ...

    Based on this assumptions, the God's Country has already done a number of "preemptive strikes" on countries and/or scientists and worldly and religious leader which could be "dangerous for the Holy Land".

    The Scripture like prophet Daniel says the opposite. The King of the North
    will ascend to power with flattering and intrigue - he will despise the poor, the weak and the needy, he will make an agreement with those of the Hebrew descent who abandon the Covenant (and adopt abortion and LGBTQ+
    and transhumanistic ideologies).

    As I have explained elsewhere, the final goal of transhumanism, according
    to phases is:

    1. to replace human mind with AI
    2. to replace human body and healthy limbs with prosthetic implants
    3. transcending human existence and giving it to the machine
    4. enable the State and the Machine the control over the conception
    of life in general and especially the human life (this would enable conception of the limitless armies of perfectly genetically conditioned obedient soldiers that obey the chain of command without regret, conscience or remorse;
    in the literature this was addressed as the "mother farm factory" and/or "maturation chambers" for accelerated growth - but we are increasingly
    catching up with that).

    While the King of the North in the book of Daniel is a dynasty and/or position that is acquired by a despicable person of low origin, not deserving royalty, it is actually the image of Antichrist (making a pact with those who abandon the Covenant of God). That figure will certainly not align with the church, just like Mr. Adolph Hitler only tolerated its rituals, without giving it any significant
    role in the State that was to be ultimately worshiped.

    With the figure of Mr. Adolph Hitler that was portrayed to the school girls like god
    (or the God?).

    This is the major problem in both fascism and communism: the cult of the State and the cult of personality - equally murderous and resulting in tens or hundred
    of millions of deaths (which were considered only a statistical number).

    The problem is maybe the complex of chosen nation and the "Banderovist" despicable attitude towards non-white nations and Islam as religion, which
    is seen in common people and young girls - which is the most important
    thing, because those were the actual actors that put people into the jails, gulags and the concentration camps.

    But the solution is not labeling them as Nazi and making them subject to a special military operation for "denazification". While it seems that Nazism was military defeated in WW2, Germany already had positive inside structures that were able to plan and almost succeed in the "operation Valkyrie".

    When coming to defeat Wehrmacht, the Allied forces in the West did not conceive the concentration camps for Nazis and starve them to death. From Erich Maria Remarque books, we can see that many concentration camp guards did their shouting
    and Jew-bashing at work and came home to be perfect husbands and fathers.

    They simply did not believe that Jew, Gipsy or the mentally ill euthanasia and cremation
    was anything evil or immoral - they were purifying their race much like comrade Stalin
    purified the Communist Party on ideological reasons in his purges.

    The mechanism used in both cases is "scapegoating": which is a term used in the Law of Moses when the sins of the nation were put on the he goat, and he was then
    thrown off of the cliff (originally in Leviticus 16 he was sent to the desert to
    the fallen angel Azazel).

    The sins of the nation were supposed to go down with the goat.

    This is the idea behind both the racial purity: while Jews invented communism, Weimar Republic was in unfair reparation demands, which pro-communist wanted
    to solve with printing more money (that caused three digit monthly inflation), the idea was that offering Jews as a burned offering will please gods and bring blessing to Germany as the Fatherland.

    The same idea lies behind the comrade Stalin's purges: a number of selected scapegoated people that were maybe nothing more sinful or evil than their neighbours or even more exceptional or talented were brought before the mounted trials and puppeted and conditioned to accuse themselves and confess crimes they have never committed, as if they were given too much truth serum.

    The end was in probably more people ending their lives in gulags during WW2 than on the frontlines killed by the Nazis or Wehrmacht. Nobody will know for sure
    until the Judgment Day except the Man Above.

    But this is exactly what I am talking about: if the Ukrainian pro-Bandera sentiment
    is replaced by a vacuum or some form of destruction of the patriarchal values, that will only strengthen LGBTQ, transgender and transhuman option. As Bandera option and Azov battalion are seen as the protectors of homeland and protectors of the patriarchal values, family, faith and homes.

    Probably that has roots in the mainstream religion (speaking from my own perspective),
    and the mainstream religion will continue to sabotage any spiritual movement that would endanger its position, especially the economic benefits.

    This is rather common with any country that has a problem with neonazi sentiment:
    the lack of patriarchal, religious alternative like the demochristian center that had
    apparently been destroyed or miniaturised across Europe and this cannot be accidental.

    The position of the force opposing the racist movements and sacrileges of the hollies
    in the mysterious antagonist figure which is not completely a Messiah or Christ,
    but has many human weaknesses.

    However, the Book of the prophet Daniel and Leviticus are too deep and symbolic for
    such superficial interpretations, so the reader is advised for further research and
    commentaries.

    CONCLUSION

    This article tried to explain how the author does not believe that the Russian president
    is the "king of the North" or the image of Antichrist from the book of prophet Daniel.

    Further, the "Gog and Magog" who attack the armies of the LORD at Zion are elsewhere
    of Ezekiel interpreted as "coming from four winds of the earth", which might signify
    certain character of people rather than dismissing entire nations.

    Nobody witnesses that better than apostle St. John the Revelator in his Apocalypse:

    Revelation 7:9
    After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations,
    and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb,
    clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

    In light of this, it is affirmed that God is not genocidal Himself and He will not destroy
    all Russians and Iranians because of being "God and Magog". This is daily politics, not
    the Holy Scripture.

    While I might differ from the official opinion of the American conservative right and
    the "neocons", I firmly believe that a significant number of Russians and Iranians who
    pursue what is right in the eyes of the LORD will stand before the Lamb in white robes
    and with palm branches of peace in their hands. This will include the righteous Chinese
    and even North Koreans. (I know that I will be flamed for saying this one!)

    in the LORD
    Amen

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Raskolynikov on Sat Sep 16 08:24:41 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:04:20 PM UTC-5, Raskolynikov wrote:
    Dana petak, 15. rujna 2023. u 21:40:54 UTC+2 korisnik Oleg Smirnov napisao je:
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this
    country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup
    Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").
    While some congregations labeled the Russian president as "the King of
    the North", and there is an American evangelical and Protestant theory of the Russia and Iran being the backbone of the Gog and Magog ...

    Based on this assumptions, the God's Country has already done a number of "preemptive strikes" on countries and/or scientists and worldly and religious
    leader which could be "dangerous for the Holy Land".

    The Scripture like prophet Daniel says the opposite. The King of the North will ascend to power with flattering and intrigue - he will despise the poor,
    the weak and the needy, he will make an agreement with those of the Hebrew descent who abandon the Covenant (and adopt abortion and LGBTQ+
    and transhumanistic ideologies).

    As I have explained elsewhere, the final goal of transhumanism, according
    to phases is:

    1. to replace human mind with AI
    2. to replace human body and healthy limbs with prosthetic implants
    3. transcending human existence and giving it to the machine
    4. enable the State and the Machine the control over the conception
    of life in general and especially the human life (this would enable conception
    of the limitless armies of perfectly genetically conditioned obedient soldiers
    that obey the chain of command without regret, conscience or remorse;
    in the literature this was addressed as the "mother farm factory" and/or "maturation chambers" for accelerated growth - but we are increasingly catching up with that).

    While the King of the North in the book of Daniel is a dynasty and/or position
    that is acquired by a despicable person of low origin, not deserving royalty,
    it is actually the image of Antichrist (making a pact with those who abandon the Covenant of God). That figure will certainly not align with the church, just like Mr. Adolph Hitler only tolerated its rituals, without giving it any significant
    role in the State that was to be ultimately worshiped.

    With the figure of Mr. Adolph Hitler that was portrayed to the school girls like god
    (or the God?).

    This is the major problem in both fascism and communism: the cult of the State
    and the cult of personality - equally murderous and resulting in tens or hundred
    of millions of deaths (which were considered only a statistical number).

    The problem is maybe the complex of chosen nation and the "Banderovist" despicable attitude towards non-white nations and Islam as religion, which is seen in common people and young girls - which is the most important thing, because those were the actual actors that put people into the jails, gulags and the concentration camps.

    But the solution is not labeling them as Nazi and making them subject to a special military operation for "denazification". While it seems that Nazism was
    military defeated in WW2, Germany already had positive inside structures that
    were able to plan and almost succeed in the "operation Valkyrie".

    When coming to defeat Wehrmacht, the Allied forces in the West did not conceive
    the concentration camps for Nazis and starve them to death. From Erich Maria Remarque books, we can see that many concentration camp guards did their shouting
    and Jew-bashing at work and came home to be perfect husbands and fathers.

    They simply did not believe that Jew, Gipsy or the mentally ill euthanasia and cremation
    was anything evil or immoral - they were purifying their race much like comrade Stalin
    purified the Communist Party on ideological reasons in his purges.

    The mechanism used in both cases is "scapegoating": which is a term used in the
    Law of Moses when the sins of the nation were put on the he goat, and he was then
    thrown off of the cliff (originally in Leviticus 16 he was sent to the desert to
    the fallen angel Azazel).

    The sins of the nation were supposed to go down with the goat.

    This is the idea behind both the racial purity: while Jews invented communism,
    Weimar Republic was in unfair reparation demands, which pro-communist wanted to solve with printing more money (that caused three digit monthly inflation),
    the idea was that offering Jews as a burned offering will please gods and bring
    blessing to Germany as the Fatherland.

    The same idea lies behind the comrade Stalin's purges: a number of selected scapegoated people that were maybe nothing more sinful or evil than their neighbours or even more exceptional or talented were brought before the mounted
    trials and puppeted and conditioned to accuse themselves and confess crimes they have never committed, as if they were given too much truth serum.

    The end was in probably more people ending their lives in gulags during WW2 than on the frontlines killed by the Nazis or Wehrmacht. Nobody will know for sure
    until the Judgment Day except the Man Above.

    But this is exactly what I am talking about: if the Ukrainian pro-Bandera sentiment
    is replaced by a vacuum or some form of destruction of the patriarchal values,
    that will only strengthen LGBTQ, transgender and transhuman option. As Bandera
    option and Azov battalion are seen as the protectors of homeland and protectors
    of the patriarchal values, family, faith and homes.

    Probably that has roots in the mainstream religion (speaking from my own perspective),
    and the mainstream religion will continue to sabotage any spiritual movement that would endanger its position, especially the economic benefits.

    This is rather common with any country that has a problem with neonazi sentiment:
    the lack of patriarchal, religious alternative like the demochristian center that had
    apparently been destroyed or miniaturised across Europe and this cannot be accidental.

    The position of the force opposing the racist movements and sacrileges of the hollies
    in the mysterious antagonist figure which is not completely a Messiah or Christ,
    but has many human weaknesses.

    However, the Book of the prophet Daniel and Leviticus are too deep and symbolic for
    such superficial interpretations, so the reader is advised for further research and
    commentaries.

    CONCLUSION

    This article tried to explain how the author does not believe that the Russian president
    is the "king of the North" or the image of Antichrist from the book of prophet Daniel.

    Further, the "Gog and Magog" who attack the armies of the LORD at Zion are elsewhere
    of Ezekiel interpreted as "coming from four winds of the earth", which might signify
    certain character of people rather than dismissing entire nations.

    Nobody witnesses that better than apostle St. John the Revelator in his Apocalypse:

    Revelation 7:9
    After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations,
    and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb,
    clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

    In light of this, it is affirmed that God is not genocidal Himself and He will not destroy
    all Russians and Iranians because of being "God and Magog". This is daily politics, not
    the Holy Scripture.

    While I might differ from the official opinion of the American conservative right and
    the "neocons", I firmly believe that a significant number of Russians and Iranians who
    pursue what is right in the eyes of the LORD will stand before the Lamb in white robes
    and with palm branches of peace in their hands. This will include the righteous Chinese
    and even North Koreans. (I know that I will be flamed for saying this one!)

    in the LORD
    Amen
    King of the North could also be USA

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lazarus Cain@21:1/5 to Raskolynikov on Sat Sep 16 08:35:25 2023
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:04:20 PM UTC-5, Raskolynikov wrote:
    Dana petak, 15. rujna 2023. u 21:40:54 UTC+2 korisnik Oleg Smirnov napisao je:
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this
    country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda
    is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist
    ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be
    in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that
    they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind
    of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order
    to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup
    Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on
    the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South")
    to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").
    While some congregations labeled the Russian president as "the King of
    the North", and there is an American evangelical and Protestant theory of the Russia and Iran being the backbone of the Gog and Magog ...

    Based on this assumptions, the God's Country has already done a number of "preemptive strikes" on countries and/or scientists and worldly and religious
    leader which could be "dangerous for the Holy Land".

    The Scripture like prophet Daniel says the opposite. The King of the North will ascend to power with flattering and intrigue - he will despise the poor,
    the weak and the needy, he will make an agreement with those of the Hebrew descent who abandon the Covenant (and adopt abortion and LGBTQ+
    and transhumanistic ideologies).

    As I have explained elsewhere, the final goal of transhumanism, according
    to phases is:

    1. to replace human mind with AI
    2. to replace human body and healthy limbs with prosthetic implants
    3. transcending human existence and giving it to the machine
    4. enable the State and the Machine the control over the conception
    of life in general and especially the human life (this would enable conception
    of the limitless armies of perfectly genetically conditioned obedient soldiers
    that obey the chain of command without regret, conscience or remorse;
    in the literature this was addressed as the "mother farm factory" and/or "maturation chambers" for accelerated growth - but we are increasingly catching up with that).

    While the King of the North in the book of Daniel is a dynasty and/or position
    that is acquired by a despicable person of low origin, not deserving royalty,
    it is actually the image of Antichrist (making a pact with those who abandon the Covenant of God). That figure will certainly not align with the church, just like Mr. Adolph Hitler only tolerated its rituals, without giving it any significant
    role in the State that was to be ultimately worshiped.

    With the figure of Mr. Adolph Hitler that was portrayed to the school girls like god
    (or the God?).

    This is the major problem in both fascism and communism: the cult of the State
    and the cult of personality - equally murderous and resulting in tens or hundred
    of millions of deaths (which were considered only a statistical number).

    The problem is maybe the complex of chosen nation and the "Banderovist" despicable attitude towards non-white nations and Islam as religion, which is seen in common people and young girls - which is the most important thing, because those were the actual actors that put people into the jails, gulags and the concentration camps.

    But the solution is not labeling them as Nazi and making them subject to a special military operation for "denazification". While it seems that Nazism was
    military defeated in WW2, Germany already had positive inside structures that
    were able to plan and almost succeed in the "operation Valkyrie".

    When coming to defeat Wehrmacht, the Allied forces in the West did not conceive
    the concentration camps for Nazis and starve them to death. From Erich Maria Remarque books, we can see that many concentration camp guards did their shouting
    and Jew-bashing at work and came home to be perfect husbands and fathers.

    They simply did not believe that Jew, Gipsy or the mentally ill euthanasia and cremation
    was anything evil or immoral - they were purifying their race much like comrade Stalin
    purified the Communist Party on ideological reasons in his purges.

    The mechanism used in both cases is "scapegoating": which is a term used in the
    Law of Moses when the sins of the nation were put on the he goat, and he was then
    thrown off of the cliff (originally in Leviticus 16 he was sent to the desert to
    the fallen angel Azazel).

    The sins of the nation were supposed to go down with the goat.

    This is the idea behind both the racial purity: while Jews invented communism,
    Weimar Republic was in unfair reparation demands, which pro-communist wanted to solve with printing more money (that caused three digit monthly inflation),
    the idea was that offering Jews as a burned offering will please gods and bring
    blessing to Germany as the Fatherland.

    The same idea lies behind the comrade Stalin's purges: a number of selected scapegoated people that were maybe nothing more sinful or evil than their neighbours or even more exceptional or talented were brought before the mounted
    trials and puppeted and conditioned to accuse themselves and confess crimes they have never committed, as if they were given too much truth serum.

    The end was in probably more people ending their lives in gulags during WW2 than on the frontlines killed by the Nazis or Wehrmacht. Nobody will know for sure
    until the Judgment Day except the Man Above.

    But this is exactly what I am talking about: if the Ukrainian pro-Bandera sentiment
    is replaced by a vacuum or some form of destruction of the patriarchal values,
    that will only strengthen LGBTQ, transgender and transhuman option. As Bandera
    option and Azov battalion are seen as the protectors of homeland and protectors
    of the patriarchal values, family, faith and homes.

    Probably that has roots in the mainstream religion (speaking from my own perspective),
    and the mainstream religion will continue to sabotage any spiritual movement that would endanger its position, especially the economic benefits.

    This is rather common with any country that has a problem with neonazi sentiment:
    the lack of patriarchal, religious alternative like the demochristian center that had
    apparently been destroyed or miniaturised across Europe and this cannot be accidental.

    The position of the force opposing the racist movements and sacrileges of the hollies
    in the mysterious antagonist figure which is not completely a Messiah or Christ,
    but has many human weaknesses.

    However, the Book of the prophet Daniel and Leviticus are too deep and symbolic for
    such superficial interpretations, so the reader is advised for further research and
    commentaries.

    CONCLUSION

    This article tried to explain how the author does not believe that the Russian president
    is the "king of the North" or the image of Antichrist from the book of prophet Daniel.

    Further, the "Gog and Magog" who attack the armies of the LORD at Zion are elsewhere
    of Ezekiel interpreted as "coming from four winds of the earth", which might signify
    certain character of people rather than dismissing entire nations.

    Nobody witnesses that better than apostle St. John the Revelator in his Apocalypse:

    Revelation 7:9
    After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations,
    and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb,
    clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

    In light of this, it is affirmed that God is not genocidal Himself and He will not destroy
    all Russians and Iranians because of being "God and Magog". This is daily politics, not
    the Holy Scripture.

    While I might differ from the official opinion of the American conservative right and
    the "neocons", I firmly believe that a significant number of Russians and Iranians who
    pursue what is right in the eyes of the LORD will stand before the Lamb in white robes
    and with palm branches of peace in their hands. This will include the righteous Chinese
    and even North Koreans. (I know that I will be flamed for saying this one!)

    in the LORD
    Amen
    "This is the idea behind both the racial purity: while Jews invented communism,"
    Reason Hitler used to exterminate Jews
    German Jews developed atomic bomb to defeat Hitler, but Truman used it on Japan Hitler pissed at German Jews for fleeing Germany and building bomb in US. Hitler didn't trust the science discovered by said Jews.

    Russian Jews in Ukraine were exterminated, everyone knows that
    Mass murder started as Hitler invaded Ukraine.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Oleg Smirnov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 10:38:29 2023
    Lazarus Cain, <news:7627e06d-ebdf-4477-a512-a00031fb67e4n@googlegroups.com>
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:04:20 PM UTC-5, Raskolynikov wrote:
    Dana petak, 15. rujna 2023. u 21:40:54 UTC+2 korisnik Oleg Smirnov napisao

    While I might differ from the official opinion of the American conservative >> right and
    the "neocons", I firmly believe that a significant number of Russians and
    Iranians who
    pursue what is right in the eyes of the LORD will stand before the Lamb in >> white robes
    and with palm branches of peace in their hands. This will include the
    righteous Chinese
    and even North Koreans. (I know that I will be flamed for saying this one!) >>
    in the LORD
    Amen

    King of the North could also be USA

    World would be mentally saner if you
    both refrained from soiling the Usenet
    with drivel.

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  • From Raskolynikov@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 00:55:18 2023
    Dana subota, 16. rujna 2023. u 17:35:26 UTC+2 korisnik Lazarus Cain napisao je:
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:04:20 PM UTC-5, Raskolynikov wrote:
    Dana petak, 15. rujna 2023. u 21:40:54 UTC+2 korisnik Oleg Smirnov napisao je:
    ltlee1, <news:ceb35652-de19-479e...@googlegroups.com>

    Mr Podolyak said, "What's the problem with China, India etc. - they are
    not able to analyse the consequences of their actions - these countries
    have low intellectual potential, unfortunately. Yes, they invest in science. Yes, India has launched a lunar rover recently which is now trekking on the surface of the Moon, but that does not indicate that this
    country fully comprehends what the modern world is about."

    The "Russian propaganda" claim that the post-coup Kiev regime's agenda is largely based on the Nazi(-like) concepts is not an exaggeration.
    Of course, there's a big lot of Ukraine-linked pro-Atlanticist ideologues seeking to "ennoble" and "correct" the regime's settings in public presentation, so that just "Russia" as an image of evil would be in the front. Nevertheless, from time to time, the top leaders /actors /propagandists of the regime show their true colors off anyway.

    Not so long ago, one of the regime's most top functionaries said on TV that the primary reason why humanism is alien to the Russians is that they are Asian people <https://archive.is/1i5Xg>. In turn, the media / propaganda staff that serves the regime, no doubt, understood that it sounds racist, so it needs to be somehow muffled, so they supplied this news with a Facebook post of one insignificant Jewish activist who kind of "apologized on behalf of all Ukrainians". Difference is, the rants
    of the top functionarie, who represents the regime, were aired on their mainstream TV for domestic audience, while the "apology" from the activist, who represents pretty no-one, was intended rather for outside public (and the top functionarie himself didn't apologize for anything).

    Historically, the idea of such an Asian subhumanness is a traditional Poland's setting since about 15th century, which was developed in order to justify and substantiate Poland's hostile policies against
    "mongoloid Russia" at the time, and today the basics of the post-coup Kiev regime include it in combination with the later concepts the west-Ukrainians (Galicians) picked up from the German Nazis before and during the WW2 (the Banderovist narratives).

    One might slyly try to rationalize it as sort of "natural reaction" on the Russia's action, but it would be a replacement of cause and effect. Because such ideologies were cultivated long before. Then, after the violent anti-democratic 2014 coup, they were used to justify repression against those in East Ukraine who didn't like the coup.

    Whether is there an Asian interest to support the Kiev regime promoting such ideological settings, is up to people of Asia (and "Global South") to decide (according to their "intellectual potential").
    While some congregations labeled the Russian president as "the King of
    the North", and there is an American evangelical and Protestant theory of the Russia and Iran being the backbone of the Gog and Magog ...

    Based on this assumptions, the God's Country has already done a number of "preemptive strikes" on countries and/or scientists and worldly and religious
    leader which could be "dangerous for the Holy Land".

    The Scripture like prophet Daniel says the opposite. The King of the North will ascend to power with flattering and intrigue - he will despise the poor,
    the weak and the needy, he will make an agreement with those of the Hebrew descent who abandon the Covenant (and adopt abortion and LGBTQ+
    and transhumanistic ideologies).

    As I have explained elsewhere, the final goal of transhumanism, according to phases is:

    1. to replace human mind with AI
    2. to replace human body and healthy limbs with prosthetic implants
    3. transcending human existence and giving it to the machine
    4. enable the State and the Machine the control over the conception
    of life in general and especially the human life (this would enable conception
    of the limitless armies of perfectly genetically conditioned obedient soldiers
    that obey the chain of command without regret, conscience or remorse;
    in the literature this was addressed as the "mother farm factory" and/or "maturation chambers" for accelerated growth - but we are increasingly catching up with that).

    While the King of the North in the book of Daniel is a dynasty and/or position
    that is acquired by a despicable person of low origin, not deserving royalty,
    it is actually the image of Antichrist (making a pact with those who abandon
    the Covenant of God). That figure will certainly not align with the church,
    just like Mr. Adolph Hitler only tolerated its rituals, without giving it any significant
    role in the State that was to be ultimately worshiped.

    With the figure of Mr. Adolph Hitler that was portrayed to the school girls like god
    (or the God?).

    This is the major problem in both fascism and communism: the cult of the State
    and the cult of personality - equally murderous and resulting in tens or hundred
    of millions of deaths (which were considered only a statistical number).

    The problem is maybe the complex of chosen nation and the "Banderovist" despicable attitude towards non-white nations and Islam as religion, which is seen in common people and young girls - which is the most important thing, because those were the actual actors that put people into the jails,
    gulags and the concentration camps.

    But the solution is not labeling them as Nazi and making them subject to a special military operation for "denazification". While it seems that Nazism was
    military defeated in WW2, Germany already had positive inside structures that
    were able to plan and almost succeed in the "operation Valkyrie".

    When coming to defeat Wehrmacht, the Allied forces in the West did not conceive
    the concentration camps for Nazis and starve them to death. From Erich Maria
    Remarque books, we can see that many concentration camp guards did their shouting
    and Jew-bashing at work and came home to be perfect husbands and fathers.

    They simply did not believe that Jew, Gipsy or the mentally ill euthanasia and cremation
    was anything evil or immoral - they were purifying their race much like comrade Stalin
    purified the Communist Party on ideological reasons in his purges.

    The mechanism used in both cases is "scapegoating": which is a term used in the
    Law of Moses when the sins of the nation were put on the he goat, and he was then
    thrown off of the cliff (originally in Leviticus 16 he was sent to the desert to
    the fallen angel Azazel).

    The sins of the nation were supposed to go down with the goat.

    This is the idea behind both the racial purity: while Jews invented communism,
    Weimar Republic was in unfair reparation demands, which pro-communist wanted
    to solve with printing more money (that caused three digit monthly inflation),
    the idea was that offering Jews as a burned offering will please gods and bring
    blessing to Germany as the Fatherland.

    The same idea lies behind the comrade Stalin's purges: a number of selected
    scapegoated people that were maybe nothing more sinful or evil than their neighbours or even more exceptional or talented were brought before the mounted
    trials and puppeted and conditioned to accuse themselves and confess crimes
    they have never committed, as if they were given too much truth serum.

    The end was in probably more people ending their lives in gulags during WW2
    than on the frontlines killed by the Nazis or Wehrmacht. Nobody will know for sure
    until the Judgment Day except the Man Above.

    But this is exactly what I am talking about: if the Ukrainian pro-Bandera sentiment
    is replaced by a vacuum or some form of destruction of the patriarchal values,
    that will only strengthen LGBTQ, transgender and transhuman option. As Bandera
    option and Azov battalion are seen as the protectors of homeland and protectors
    of the patriarchal values, family, faith and homes.

    Probably that has roots in the mainstream religion (speaking from my own perspective),
    and the mainstream religion will continue to sabotage any spiritual movement
    that would endanger its position, especially the economic benefits.

    This is rather common with any country that has a problem with neonazi sentiment:
    the lack of patriarchal, religious alternative like the demochristian center that had
    apparently been destroyed or miniaturised across Europe and this cannot be accidental.

    The position of the force opposing the racist movements and sacrileges of the hollies
    in the mysterious antagonist figure which is not completely a Messiah or Christ,
    but has many human weaknesses.

    However, the Book of the prophet Daniel and Leviticus are too deep and symbolic for
    such superficial interpretations, so the reader is advised for further research and
    commentaries.

    CONCLUSION

    This article tried to explain how the author does not believe that the Russian president
    is the "king of the North" or the image of Antichrist from the book of prophet Daniel.

    Further, the "Gog and Magog" who attack the armies of the LORD at Zion are elsewhere
    of Ezekiel interpreted as "coming from four winds of the earth", which might signify
    certain character of people rather than dismissing entire nations.

    Nobody witnesses that better than apostle St. John the Revelator in his Apocalypse:

    Revelation 7:9
    After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations,
    and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb,
    clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

    In light of this, it is affirmed that God is not genocidal Himself and He will not destroy
    all Russians and Iranians because of being "God and Magog". This is daily politics, not
    the Holy Scripture.

    While I might differ from the official opinion of the American conservative right and
    the "neocons", I firmly believe that a significant number of Russians and Iranians who
    pursue what is right in the eyes of the LORD will stand before the Lamb in white robes
    and with palm branches of peace in their hands. This will include the righteous Chinese
    and even North Koreans. (I know that I will be flamed for saying this one!)

    in the LORD
    Amen
    "This is the idea behind both the racial purity: while Jews invented communism,"
    Reason Hitler used to exterminate Jews
    German Jews developed atomic bomb to defeat Hitler, but Truman used it on Japan
    Hitler pissed at German Jews for fleeing Germany and building bomb in US. Hitler didn't trust the science discovered by said Jews.

    Russian Jews in Ukraine were exterminated, everyone knows that
    Mass murder started as Hitler invaded Ukraine.

    The primary reason was that Mr. Adolph Hitler perceived Jews as the force behind the unjust
    was reparations, betrayal of Germany in WW1 he thought they could have won, and the pro-communist
    Weimar Republic government that was insanely printing money (history is repeating 100 years later) while
    overall moral corruption and homosexuality were overtaking the last German virgins.

    I believe the rise of Mr. Adolph Hitler happened due to the jealousy of the Nordic gods.

    He did some good work on cutting inflation, industrial reinforcement and building solid
    infrastructure long-sighted so that it made the Allied forces so difficult to defeat Wehrmacht
    despite fighting on three fronts and carpet bombing of the cities and transport routes.

    That is commendable on his behalf.

    However, concentration camps with starvation to death, summary executions and crematoriums
    were an obvious errors.

    Moreover, I would not feel clean after bathing with soap made of pork fat with ashes from
    burned people. I find this kind of repulsive ... This need to totally destroy one group of people
    who have stopped fighting and have surrendered, to humiliate them beyond death ... that is
    kind of deviant.

    This reminds me of Croatian funny morgues where the staff plays with the dead bodies
    (possibly sexy games) and then they are cremated in the facility popularly called "The Cement Factory".

    Allegedly, there were rumours that some of the ashes were mixed, families did not get ashes
    from their own deceased (and it is used mostly by the poor, as it is the most affordable funeral
    for the retired). Others say that the term "Cement Factory" means that the ashes were used in
    the construction works elsewhere rather than properly being given to the families. This is also
    deviant and repulsive.

    Makes Croatia a place where you do not want to get ill or die.

    in the LORD
    Amen

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  • From Raskolynikov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 13:25:40 2023
    Dana nedjelja, 17. rujna 2023. u 09:40:42 UTC+2 korisnik Oleg Smirnov napisao je:
    Lazarus Cain, <news:7627e06d-ebdf-4477...@googlegroups.com>
    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 6:04:20 PM UTC-5, Raskolynikov wrote:
    Dana petak, 15. rujna 2023. u 21:40:54 UTC+2 korisnik Oleg Smirnov napisao >> While I might differ from the official opinion of the American conservative
    right and
    the "neocons", I firmly believe that a significant number of Russians and >> Iranians who
    pursue what is right in the eyes of the LORD will stand before the Lamb in
    white robes
    and with palm branches of peace in their hands. This will include the
    righteous Chinese
    and even North Koreans. (I know that I will be flamed for saying this one!)

    in the LORD
    Amen

    King of the North could also be USA
    World would be mentally saner if you
    both refrained from soiling the Usenet
    with drivel.

    God knows I tried everything to save Mother Russia except Russian vodka and Russian girls in real life.

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