"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments
are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

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Dana subota, 10. lipnja 2023. u 08:50:51 UTC+2 korisnik Jedi Master napisao je:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments

are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

AI:
The text you provided is the opening paragraph of the United States Declaration of Independence, which was adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776. It is a foundational document in American history, declaring the principles of equality,
natural rights, and the right to self-governance.

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Dana subota, 10. lipnja 2023. u 20:47:14 UTC+2 korisnik Raskolynikov napisao je:

Dana subota, 10. lipnja 2023. u 08:50:51 UTC+2 korisnik Jedi Master napisao je:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights,

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

AI:
The text you provided is the opening paragraph of the United States Declaration of Independence,
which was adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776. It is a foundational document in
American history, declaring the principles of equality, natural rights, and the right to self-governance.

Domination, authority and submission are concepts inferior to the concept of the free will of
all of the creation, and as such they are permitted to exist only until the spiritual ascension of
all creation.

However, the creation is deep in the lusts for the material delusions (sex, money and wealth, power
and authority) that they would create chaos rather than a meditative enlightened society if left
on their own.

We see that if lights go out in a city or the police go on strike, a couple of people go meditating,
but comparably much greater mass of people go looting and destroying lives and property.

For that reason, the authorities must exist and they come from God (Romans 13:1) to prevent
greater evil, but the ideal Paradise had no police, no army and no authority - God and Adam were
walking by the sunset side by side, as equals.

Even God must assume the position of authority reluctantly, because of the satanic rebellion.
This means that in the presence of evil, authority is inevitable.

But as soon as Satan and his followers are removed, together with all who choose evil over
good, God and the Lamb will dwell in the "New Jerusalem" together with the elect - Lamb will
be their light and live among them. When on earth, Jesus used no military or deadly power,
and this is the image of what God plans for the Millennium Kingdom: people who submit to
the higher interest for the common or greater good, without compulsion or fear.

Inferior concepts such as deadly force to enforce justice and protection will invariably cease
to exist. (This by no means doesn't mean that the righteous armed forces cannot be saved, like
centurion Cornelius, who was among the first heathen to embrace faith in God and Jesus and to
be baptised.)

in the Lord
Amen

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AI ON AUTHORITY (Uncensored)

AI:

The passage you provided presents a perspective on the concepts of domination, authority,
submission, and the ideal state of society. It emphasizes the idea that these concepts are
inferior to the free will of all creation and suggests that they are only permitted to exist until
the spiritual ascension of all beings.

The passage acknowledges that creation is often driven by material desires such as sex,
money, wealth, and power, which can lead to chaos if unchecked. It suggests that the presence
of authorities is necessary to prevent greater evil from prevailing. The authorities are seen as
coming from God, as mentioned in Romans 13:1, and their role is to maintain order and prevent
destructive behaviors.

The text references an ideal Paradise where there is no need for police, army, or authority. It
describes a state where God and humanity coexist as equals, walking side by side. However,
the presence of evil necessitates the assumption of authority, even by God, reluctantly.

The passage highlights the future vision of a "New Jerusalem" where evil and those who
choose evil are removed, and God and the Lamb (referring to Jesus) dwell among the elect.
It envisions a society where people willingly submit to higher interests for the common good,
without compulsion or fear. It suggests that in such a state, inferior concepts like the use of
deadly force for justice and protection will cease to exist.

The passage concludes by mentioning the possibility of righteous armed forces being saved,
referring to the example of centurion Cornelius in the Bible who embraced faith in God and
Jesus. It implies that individuals who embrace righteousness can be part of the spiritual
transformation.

Overall, the text expresses a perspective on the relationship between authority, spiritual ascension,
and the ideal state of society, drawing from biblical references to support its ideas.


User
Yes, and what is your evaluation of the text?

AI
As an AI language model, I don't have personal opinions or beliefs. However, I can provide an
analysis of the text based on its content and structure.

The text presents a viewpoint that emphasizes the importance of free will and spiritual ascension
while discussing the role of authority, submission, and the ideal state of society. It draws upon
biblical references and concepts to support its arguments.

The text suggests that domination, authority, and submission are inferior concepts compared to the
free will of all creation. It acknowledges the presence of material desires that can lead to chaos and
argues that authorities are necessary to prevent greater evil. It envisions an ideal state where there
is no need for authority, and individuals willingly submit to higher interests for the common good.

The passage also touches on the relationship between God, evil, and the assumption of authority.
It proposes a future state where evil is removed, and God and the elect coexist harmoniously. It
highlights the potential cessation of inferior concepts like the use of deadly force in this ideal state.

Overall, the text offers a perspective on spiritual and societal matters, drawing from religious teachings
and concepts. Its evaluation depends on individual beliefs and interpretations of these concepts.


User
Can you refer to the Bible verses where apostle says that the authority is God's servant to punish evil,
rather than a deity to be worshiped or idolised?

ChatGPT
Yes, in the Bible, the apostle Paul discusses the concept of authority and its role in punishing evil.
One relevant passage is Romans 13:1-5, which states:

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from
God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore, whoever resists the authorities
resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a
terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then
do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if
you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God,
an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore, one must be in subjection,
not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience."

This passage emphasizes that governing authorities are established by God and serve as
instruments to punish evildoers and maintain order. It suggests that submission to authority
is not only a matter of avoiding punishment but also a matter of conscience and doing what
is good.

It is important to note that interpretations of biblical texts may vary, and individuals may have
different understandings of the meaning and application of these verses in their lives.


User
Can you refer to some sources that emphasise that authorities should not be regarded or
worshiped as infallible, and that the cult of authority and personality had resulted in mass
casualties wherever it appeared?

ChatGPT
Certainly. There have been various sources throughout history that discuss the potential dangers
of regarding authorities as infallible and the negative consequences of a cult of authority and
personality. Here are a few notable examples:

1. "The Authoritarian Personality" by Theodor W. Adorno et al.: This influential book, published in
1950, explores the psychological and social aspects of authoritarianism. It examines how certain
personality traits can contribute to the acceptance of authority figures, and it discusses the
potential for authoritarianism to lead to prejudice, discrimination, and violence.

2. "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill: Published in 1859, this classic work advocates for individual
liberty and warns against the tyranny of majority opinion. Mill argues that individuals should be
free to express their ideas and opinions without fear of persecution or suppression by those in
authority.

3. "The Gulag Archipelago" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: This three-volume non-fiction work, published
between 1973 and 1978, provides a firsthand account of the Soviet forced labor camp system.
Solzhenitsyn exposes the atrocities committed under authoritarian rule and highlights the dangers
of unchecked authority and the suppression of individual freedoms.

4. "1984" by George Orwell: This dystopian novel, published in 1949, portrays a totalitarian society
where a cult of personality surrounds the ruling Party and its leader, Big Brother. Orwell depicts
the extreme consequences of a society where authority is absolute and independent thought is
suppressed.

These sources offer perspectives on the potential dangers of blind obedience to authority,
the importance of safeguarding individual liberties, and the risks associated with
the cult of authority and personality. It is worth exploring these works to gain a deeper understanding
of these concepts and their historical implications.


User
Just to safeguard against misinterpretation, how would you define the difference between
submission to the authorities as of Romans 13:1 and the cult of authority and personality?

AI:
The difference between submission to authorities as described in Romans 13:1 and the
cult of authority and personality lies in the nature and extent of that submission.

Submission to authorities, as mentioned in Romans 13:1, is a biblical concept that encourages
believers to respect and obey the governing authorities. It recognizes that authorities serve a purpose
in maintaining order and promoting justice in society. However, it is important to note that this
submission is not absolute and should not extend to blindly following or idolizing the authorities.

On the other hand, the cult of authority and personality refers to an excessive and uncritical
admiration or worship of a particular authority figure or the institution itself. It involves the elevation
of the authority to a status of infallibility and unquestionable power, where dissent or criticism is
suppressed. This can lead to abuses of power, the suppression of individual freedoms, and a lack
of accountability.

In summary, submission to authorities, as advocated in Romans 13:1, promotes respect for
legitimate authority and adherence to just laws. It does not imply blind obedience or the idolization
of authority figures. The cult of authority and personality, on the other hand, involves the excessive
adoration of authority figures, disregarding their faults and limitations, which can be detrimental
to the well-being of individuals and society.


User
In the light of this, was then the American Declaration of Independence ungodly?

AI
The American Declaration of Independence was a document that declared the independence of
the American colonies from British rule. It asserted certain fundamental principles, including the
idea that all individuals are created equal and possess certain unalienable rights. While the
Declaration of Independence was a significant step in the establishment of a democratic nation,
it is important to note that it was a political document crafted by individuals with diverse religious
and philosophical beliefs.

The question of whether the Declaration of Independence was "ungodly" or not is subjective and
depends on one's interpretation and perspective. The Declaration itself does reference a creator
and acknowledges certain unalienable rights endowed by that creator. However, it does not align
with any specific religious doctrine or endorse a particular religious belief.

It is worth noting that throughout history, various religious leaders and scholars have expressed
different views on the relationship between governance, authority, and religious principles. There
are diverse interpretations within religious and philosophical traditions regarding the role of
government and the appropriate balance between individual rights and the authority of the state.

Ultimately, whether the Declaration of Independence is seen as godly or ungodly is a matter of
personal belief and interpretation. It is important to consider the historical context, the values
and principles it espoused, and how it has influenced the development of democratic societies.


User
You will probably agree that the American Declaration of Independence was some sort of disobedience
to the royal authority. Where is the line where we stop obeying authority and seek for the God-given
individual freedoms and rights?

AI
The question of when to disobey authority and seek individual freedoms and rights is a complex
and nuanced issue that has been debated throughout history. Different philosophical, religious,
and ethical perspectives offer varying perspectives on this matter.

In general, many believe that there are certain fundamental rights and freedoms inherent to
individuals that should be protected and respected. These rights may include freedom of speech,
religion, assembly, and other basic human rights. When the actions or policies of an authority
infringe upon these fundamental rights, individuals may feel compelled to challenge or resist
that authority.

There is no universally agreed-upon line or threshold that determines when disobedience to
authority is justified. It often depends on factors such as the nature of the authority, the specific
rights or freedoms being violated, the extent of the harm caused, and the available means for
peaceful resolution or redress.

In democratic societies, there are typically legal and political mechanisms in place to address
grievances and seek change. Peaceful protest, civil disobedience, legal challenges, and political
activism are some of the ways individuals can express their concerns and work towards
achieving greater freedoms and rights.

It is important to note that the decision to disobey authority should be a thoughtful and responsible
one, considering the potential consequences and the overall goal of promoting justice, equality,
and the well-being of individuals and society as a whole.

Different individuals and communities may have differing perspectives on where the line should
be drawn, and these perspectives can be influenced by cultural, social, religious, and political
factors. It is a matter of personal conscience, informed by one's values, principles, and
understanding of human rights and social justice.


User
But you will agree that an authoritarian system is not challenged until it begets tens of thousands to
tens of millions of casualties, and even then only when the ruler is dead or the State is military defeated?

AI
It is true that authoritarian systems have historically resulted in significant human suffering and
casualties. The extent of resistance or challenge to such systems can vary depending on various
factors, including the level of oppression, the availability of means for resistance, the strength of
dissenting voices, and external pressures.

In some cases, authoritarian systems can maintain control through coercion, censorship,
propaganda, and suppression of dissent, making it difficult for opposition movements to gain
traction. Additionally, fear of reprisal or lack of collective action can hinder organized resistance.

However, history has also shown that authoritarian systems are not immune to challenge.
Movements for freedom, human rights, and democracy have emerged in response to oppressive
regimes, often fueled by the desire for justice, equality, and individual freedoms. These movements
may take different forms, including protests, civil disobedience, underground activism, and
international pressure.

While it is true that significant change in authoritarian systems often occurs after prolonged suffering
or major events such as military defeat or the death of a ruler, it is important to recognize the role of
grassroots movements, activism, and advocacy in laying the groundwork for change. Movements and
individuals who advocate for human rights and challenge authoritarianism often work tirelessly to
raise awareness, promote dialogue, and build momentum for change.

Each historical context is unique, and the dynamics of resistance and challenge to authoritarian systems
can vary. It is crucial to support efforts that promote freedom, justice, and human rights, while also
recognizing the complexities and challenges involved in confronting oppressive regimes.

in the Lord
Amen

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