Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in news:XnsB050851B3BCD3882000099222@135.181.20.170:
So much for the EV craze.
"Ford pushes back EV target, warns of wider losses due to slower-than-
expected adoption"
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/ford-pushes-back-ev-target-warns-of-wi
der-
losses.html#:~:text=Ford%20also%20said%20it%20now,be%20a%20boon%20for%
20Ford.>
I blame Ford for this as much as I do customer acceptance.
Of all the basic vehicles they could have chosen to experiment with BEV,
they picked the "Mustang" and totally failed. The end result is an ugly, unsporty, woke-gay-looking piece of shit BEV that can't even keep up with
a Toyota SCION XB 5 spd.
The pickup trucks are just as bad. Weak, no worthwhile range and pretty
much useless in the wilderness.
Bonus annoyance - Ford still has not gotten their shit together and fixed their historical pickup truck tail light problem. You know what it is, you've seen it. One tail light dimmer than the other, or it flickers
during driving, or the light goes out or dims when the brakes are applied, and finally one is just plain out. I have seen this now on brand new Ford Broncos and the overpriced F-150 BEV junk.
The unafforable F-150 BEV enters the market at $66,000 and nets MAYBE 230 miles before recharging is required. The extra range battery costs
another $12,000 by the time all is said and done, adding an additional 90 miles for a total of 320 - assuming there is no load or tow. If loaded or towing, even with the extra battery, knock it down to 200 miles.
F-150 BEV Weight: 6,015 to 6,893 lbs
F-150 ICE Weight: 4,021 to 5,740 lbs
$78,000 to take it home? Thumbs down, Ford.
There are livable places in the country where we can still buy 10 acres
and build a house for that price.
Now there ARE niches for these things ... but
the makers seem to be missing even those. Your
"urban commuter" who rarely leaves the city
limit and maybe puts on 50 miles a day does
NOT need a gigantic electric pickup truck,
maybe not even a Mustang.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:ua44go$2nl6f$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-07-29, Not sold <keepit@none.invalid> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB050851B3BCD3882000099222@135.181.20.170:
So much for the EV craze.
"Ford pushes back EV target, warns of wider losses due to
slower-than- expected adoption"
<https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/ford-pushes-back-ev-target-warns-of-
wi der-
losses.html#:~:text=Ford%20also%20said%20it%20now,be%20a%20boon%20for
% 20Ford.>
I blame Ford for this as much as I do customer acceptance.
Of all the basic vehicles they could have chosen to experiment with
BEV, they picked the "Mustang" and totally failed. The end result is
an ugly, unsporty, woke-gay-looking piece of shit BEV that can't even
keep up with a Toyota SCION XB 5 spd.
Absolutely!
As a Mustang owner, the Mustang fanboys absolutely HATE that
monstrosity Mach E. It has about as much in common with a real Mustang
as Dylan Mulvaney has in common with a real female.
I had a '66 289 275 horse 4 gear and a '65 289 2V 4 gear at different
times. Fun cars, went through several engines and clutches in both.
The pickup trucks are just as bad. Weak, no worthwhile range and
pretty much useless in the wilderness.
They are horrid!
The F-150 is the best selling pickup of all time for a reason. It's a
workhorse that lasts for years and can haul the biggest trailer one
can hook up and with ease.
Good trucks. You'd see those pulling other trucks out of holes in the desert.
Bonus annoyance - Ford still has not gotten their shit together and
fixed their historical pickup truck tail light problem. You know
what it is, you've seen it. One tail light dimmer than the other, or
it flickers during driving, or the light goes out or dims when the
brakes are applied, and finally one is just plain out. I have seen
this now on brand new Ford Broncos and the overpriced F-150 BEV junk.
Yep.
I have seen it many times.
Ford's biggest FU was the faulty ignition switches which they tried to
bury but got caught.
The unafforable F-150 BEV enters the market at $66,000 and nets MAYBE
230 miles before recharging is required. The extra range battery
costs another $12,000 by the time all is said and done, adding an
additional 90 miles for a total of 320 - assuming there is no load or
tow. If loaded or towing, even with the extra battery, knock it down
to 200 miles.
That's insane crazy!
F-150 BEV Weight: 6,015 to 6,893 lbs
F-150 ICE Weight: 4,021 to 5,740 lbs
$78,000 to take it home? Thumbs down, Ford.
Not a chance I would buy one of those.
There are livable places in the country where we can still buy 10
acres and build a house for that price.
Indeed.
On 2023-07-30, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
pothead wrote:
I have a close friend who owns a Tesla and he loves it. Goes on long trips as well but plans the
route based upon charging stations and the average wait time, if any.
That wouldn't work for me because I'm more of a free spirit who gets in the car on a whim and takes
a 200 mile day trip up to the mountains.
Capitalism turns problems into profits.
https://www.intelligentliving.co/ep-tender-battery-trailer/
A French startup, EP Tender, came up with a solution to the
problem of EV range anxiety. It’s a mobile charging trailer that
keeps your on-board battery topped-up on the go. It latches onto
the back of a car and is towed along for the ride enabling long
travels without having to stop frequently to charge!
That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen!
I'd love to see someone back up or parallel park with that thing.
As someone who worked at a resort and drove a truck with either a canoe trailer or a speedboat on a
trailer, manipulating one takes a lot of practice.
Besides, according to my friend the Tesla app let's the driver know the charging stations on the
route and automatically plans the stops based upon how the driver is driving, traffic, etc.
If I were starting a new business, it would be a tow truck with a supercharger on board.
If I were starting a new business, it would be a tow truck with
a supercharger on board.
Hmmmmm ... it'd seem the ULTIMATE statement if you
had to tow a DIESEL generator behind your greenie
EV ! :-)
And no, there's no such thing as an EV "gas can" ...
another major issue. Really MIGHT be good money in
creating such a road service.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 300 |
| Nodes: | 16 (0 / 16) |
| Uptime: | 116:22:05 |
| Calls: | 6,701 |
| Calls today: | 1 |
| Files: | 12,235 |
| Messages: | 5,349,222 |