• Re: Americans Ready For Green New Deal

    From 29V.X746@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Mar 21 23:50:31 2023
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    On 3/21/23 5:37 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On 21 Mar 2023 15:02:37 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
    wrote:

    |
    | Earth is likely to cross a critical threshold for global
    | warming within the next decade, and nations will need to
    | make an immediate and drastic shift away from fossil fuels
    | to prevent the planet from overheating dangerously beyond
    | that level, according to a major new report released on
    | Monday.
    | ...
    | There is still one last chance to shift course, the new
    | report says. But it would require industrialized nations to
    | join together immediately to slash greenhouse gases roughly
    | in half by 2030 and then stop adding carbon dioxide to the
    | atmosphere altogether by the early 2050s. If those two
    | steps were taken, the world would have about a 50 percent
    | chance of limiting warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius.
    | ...
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/climate/global-warming-ipcc-earth.html> >>
    --bks


    The sky is falling, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

    Aaaaaahh !!! Run away ! Run away !

    Let's get really REAL here ... 'greenhouse gasses' are NOT
    gonna be cut in half in just 6.5 years. Not even close.
    China alone will push UP the global contribution over the
    next decade, India and the "developing world" too.

    I do see that France and Germany have very suddenly decided
    to reconsider their aversion to nuclear power. Just the other
    day there was a news thing about the UK buying a bunch of
    US-made "mini modular nuke power plants" - each to supply
    electric for about 40,000 and the leftover heat (about four
    times the kilowatt value) can have many industrial uses
    (hey, a ridiculous percentage of energy use is just for
    making junk a little warmer or cooler).

    Now JOE isn't talking much about nuclear ... apparently we're
    supposed to be 101% windmills and PVs - even though the power
    storage tech and emergency capacity is NOT there at all. Joe
    did, kinda sorta, greenlight a little new oil drilling the
    other day, but it's not nearly enough.

    "Greenhouse" is the code-word our enemies use for "Fool The
    West Into Destroying Itself".

    Now I've nothing against "greener energy" - good idea - but
    the scale and scope have to be realistically re-calculated
    every year so we KNOW where we stand instead of just HOPING
    and GUESSING. So far I don't see much in the way of realistic
    calculations - it's all "political math" instead (from ALL sides) ...

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to 29V.X746@noqb1u.net on Wed Mar 22 03:24:23 2023
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    On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 23:50:31 -0400, "29V.X746" <29V.X746@noqb1u.net> wrote:

    I do see that France and Germany have very suddenly decided
    to reconsider their aversion to nuclear power.

    I know of no French aversion to nuke power plants. Quite the contrary, France has long
    embraced nuclear power and today it makes up nearly 70% of the nation's power supply.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/270367/share-of-nuclear-power-in-the-power-supply-of-selected-countries/

    Swill
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    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 28 19:50:47 2023
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    |
    | U.S. renewable electricity surpassed coal in 2022
    | ... <https://apnews.com/article/renewable-energy-coal-nuclear-climate-change-dd4a0b168fe057f430e37398615155a0>

    --bks

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Mar 28 21:58:28 2023
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    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:50:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. renewable electricity surpassed coal in 2022
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/renewable-energy-coal-nuclear-climate-change-dd4a0b168fe057f430e37398615155a0>

    --bks

    Interesting. Texas leads in wind power. California in total renewable.

    Swill
    --
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    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Sherman on Wed Mar 29 07:19:33 2023
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    XPost: alt.survival

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:50:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. renewable electricity surpassed coal in 2022
    | ...
    <https://apnews.com/article/renewable-energy-coal-nuclear-climate-change-dd4a0b168fe057f430e37398615155a0>

    --bks

    So the trillions we've already wasted aren't enough for you?

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Mar 29 07:20:20 2023
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    XPost: alt.survival

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:58:28 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:50:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. renewable electricity surpassed coal in 2022
    | ... >><https://apnews.com/article/renewable-energy-coal-nuclear-climate-change-dd4a0b168fe057f430e37398615155a0>

    --bks

    Interesting. Texas leads in wind power. California in total renewable.

    California has blackouts nearly every summer due to their lack of
    supply. You forgot to mention that.


    Swill

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Mar 29 13:57:15 2023
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    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 07:20:20 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:58:28 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:50:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. renewable electricity surpassed coal in 2022
    | ... >>><https://apnews.com/article/renewable-energy-coal-nuclear-climate-change-dd4a0b168fe057f430e37398615155a0>

    --bks

    Interesting. Texas leads in wind power. California in total renewable.

    California has blackouts nearly every summer due to their lack of
    supply. You forgot to mention that.

    They have plenty of power. It's getting it around that's the problem.

    The best news for them about renewables is that power generation is less centralized than
    with traditional models. That may help some but nothing is going to solve their problems
    but investing in their grid.

    Swill
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    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Mar 30 07:20:47 2023
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    XPost: alt.survival

    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:57:15 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 07:20:20 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:58:28 -0400, Governor Swill >><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:50:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    |
    | U.S. renewable electricity surpassed coal in 2022
    | ... >>>><https://apnews.com/article/renewable-energy-coal-nuclear-climate-change-dd4a0b168fe057f430e37398615155a0>

    --bks

    Interesting. Texas leads in wind power. California in total renewable.

    California has blackouts nearly every summer due to their lack of
    supply. You forgot to mention that.

    They have plenty of power. It's getting it around that's the problem.


    Lack of infrastructure - now from whom have you heard this statement
    before???

    The best news for them about renewables is that power generation is less centralized than
    with traditional models. That may help some but nothing is going to solve their problems
    but investing in their grid.


    Which means the infrastructure does not and can not support the demand
    of EV's. Now from whom have you heard this statement before????

    Swill

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