• ANOTHER Balloon Shot Down over Great Lakes

    From 24B.R867@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 12 20:08:44 2023
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    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-michican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.

    U.S. Representative Elissa Slotkin, who represents a district
    in Michigan, near where the incident took place, said pilots
    from the U.S. Air Force and National Guard shot down the object.
    "Great work by all who carried out this mission," she wrote
    on Twitter.

    . . .

    Previous Twitter ownership probably would have silenced
    her for the awful crime of supporting the US Military ...

    In any case this is the third mystery flying object within
    a week. Airspace over Montana was closed briefly because
    they thought there might be another, but it was determined
    (or CLAIMED) to be a "radar anomaly".

    So is this our immediate future, "Balloon Wars" ? China/NK/Russia
    can make a whole bunch of them real cheap and pump them into the
    jet stream. They don't even have to DO anything -just "look
    threatening" - and NORAD will go nuts over them. Of course WE
    can pump some out from Poland or central asia or even Ukraine
    so they'll fly over Russia and China .... psy-war all around
    with 18th-century tech.

    Hmmm ... what would it cost to make a full-sized faux-Hindenberg
    these days ? Doesn't need power or anything, just to be BIG
    and impressive. DO fill it with hydrogen though, for nostalgic
    reasons and so if they shoot at it the thing goes down in flames
    and scorches a cornfield or something.

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  • From Hisler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 12 21:23:20 2023
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    On 2/12/2023 6:08 PM, 24B.R867 wrote:
    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-michican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.

    U.S. Representative Elissa Slotkin, who represents a district
    in Michigan, near where the incident took place, said pilots
    from the U.S. Air Force and National Guard shot down the object.
    "Great work by all who carried out this mission," she wrote
    on Twitter.

    . . .

      Previous Twitter ownership probably would have silenced
      her for the awful crime of supporting the US Military ...

      In any case this is the third mystery flying object within
      a week. Airspace over Montana was closed briefly because
      they thought there might be another, but it was determined
      (or CLAIMED) to be a "radar anomaly".

      So is this our immediate future, "Balloon Wars" ? China/NK/Russia
      can make a whole bunch of them real cheap and pump them into the
      jet stream. They don't even have to DO anything -just "look
      threatening" - and NORAD will go nuts over them. Of course WE
      can pump some out from Poland or central asia or even Ukraine
      so they'll fly over Russia and China .... psy-war all around
      with 18th-century tech.

      Hmmm ... what would it cost to make a full-sized faux-Hindenberg
      these days ? Doesn't need power or anything, just to be BIG
      and impressive. DO fill it with hydrogen though, for nostalgic
      reasons and so if they shoot at it the thing goes down in flames
      and scorches a cornfield or something.

    Pentagon briefing after fourth 'unidentified object' shot down

    A U.S. fighter jet shot down an “unidentified object” over Lake Huron on Sunday, Feb. 12, on orders from President Joe Biden, believed to be the
    same one tracked over Montana and monitored by the government beginning
    the night before, the Pentagon said.

    https://youtu.be/PPFYKZCzI34

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  • From Lee@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 13 17:44:14 2023
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    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 13 16:49:59 2023
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    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000 typed in alt.survival the following:
    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    And have I got an investment opportunity in a Bridge in Crimea for
    you.
    --
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  • From Lee@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Tue Feb 14 02:12:01 2023
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    pyotr filipivich wrote:

    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000 typed in alt.survival the following:
    24B.R867 wrote:


    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move >>
    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    And have I got an investment opportunity in a Bridge in Crimea for
    you.



    Something you and your friend Putin
    are working on?

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Lee on Mon Feb 13 18:19:56 2023
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    In article <65ucnQe4dfpz63f-nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>,
    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    I'd be happier to hear we might be playing with them to our
    profit.

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  • From 25B.R867@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Mon Feb 13 21:25:21 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2/13/23 9:18 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Tue, 14 Feb 2023 02:12:01 +0000 typed in alt.survival the following:
    pyotr filipivich wrote:

    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000 typed in
    alt.survival the following:
    24B.R867 wrote:


    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m >>>>> ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move >>
    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    And have I got an investment opportunity in a Bridge in Crimea for
    you.

    Something you and your friend Putin
    are working on?

    Actually it is an investment opportunity verified by the Zhou
    Bi-den Investment group.


    TRADEMARK IT Quick !!! :-)

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  • From 25B.R867@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Mon Feb 13 21:41:03 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2/13/23 7:49 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000 typed in alt.survival the following:
    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    And have I got an investment opportunity in a Bridge in Crimea for
    you.


    The balloon was just TOO DAMNED BIG to cover up. Everybody
    could see it. Chinese balls have figuratively (sort of
    literally in this case) grown since Biden arrived.

    I understand why the military wants, sometimes needs, to
    keep secrets. Not letting the foe discover what you do or
    don't know can be strategically useful.

    Oh well, the cover is off now. Everybody with a pair of
    bargain binocs is gonna be scanning the skies for
    whatever and no ranking pol will DARE trying to hide
    the fact.

    As an aside ... some of the SUBSEQUENT objects shot at ...
    nobody seems to be telling the truth. They did not look
    or act like balloons or powered drones. Description of
    one was "cylindrical" - flattened ends. Sorry, nobody
    flies cylinders, one of the most 'draggy' shapes there is.
    This has led to comparison with some of the "tic-tac"
    UFOs that aviators seem to encounter often. Hannity had
    a military pilot on today who said his people saw them
    all the damned time plus some that looked "like a black
    cube surrounded by a clear shell" that did NOT fly like
    balloons at all.

    Hmmm ... did Joe just start a war with E.T. ??? If DC is
    suddenly replaced by a 20-mile crater we'll know :-)

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 13 18:18:30 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Tue, 14 Feb 2023 02:12:01 +0000 typed in alt.survival the following:
    pyotr filipivich wrote:

    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000 typed in
    alt.survival the following:
    24B.R867 wrote:


    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move >>
    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    And have I got an investment opportunity in a Bridge in Crimea for
    you.

    Something you and your friend Putin
    are working on?

    Actually it is an investment opportunity verified by the Zhou
    Bi-den Investment group.


    --
    pyotr filipivich
    This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
    Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
    Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to 25B.R867@noaaada.net on Mon Feb 13 23:19:07 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:41:03 -0500, "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> wrote:

    Hannity

    That should have been your clue that you weren't about to hear any facts.

    I wouldn't believe anybody on Hannity's show if they said the sky was blue.

    Swill
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    Slva Ukrajni! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Lee on Tue Feb 14 07:12:33 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......



    Biden hasn't announced shooting down balloons. Everything afte the
    first one has been "we shot down something but we don't know what" and
    it wasn't him making those statements. Can you get ANYTHING right?

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  • From Rudy Crayola@21:1/5 to Lee on Tue Feb 14 05:42:14 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2/13/2023 11:44 AM, Lee wrote:
    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    That ten year old now wants Biden to compensate him for killing his
    favorite Kite! ;-)




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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 14 08:02:57 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.military

    "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:41:03 -0500
    typed in alt.survival the following:
    On 2/13/23 7:49 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000 typed in
    alt.survival the following:
    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m >>>> ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    And have I got an investment opportunity in a Bridge in Crimea for
    you.


    The balloon was just TOO DAMNED BIG to cover up. Everybody
    could see it. Chinese balls have figuratively (sort of
    literally in this case) grown since Biden arrived.

    I understand why the military wants, sometimes needs, to
    keep secrets. Not letting the foe discover what you do or
    don't know can be strategically useful.

    Oh well, the cover is off now. Everybody with a pair of
    bargain binocs is gonna be scanning the skies for
    whatever and no ranking pol will DARE trying to hide
    the fact.

    As an aside ... some of the SUBSEQUENT objects shot at ...
    nobody seems to be telling the truth. They did not look
    or act like balloons or powered drones. Description of
    one was "cylindrical" - flattened ends. Sorry, nobody
    flies cylinders, one of the most 'draggy' shapes there is.
    This has led to comparison with some of the "tic-tac"
    UFOs that aviators seem to encounter often. Hannity had
    a military pilot on today who said his people saw them
    all the damned time plus some that looked "like a black
    cube surrounded by a clear shell" that did NOT fly like
    balloons at all.

    Hmmm ... did Joe just start a war with E.T. ??? If DC is
    suddenly replaced by a 20-mile crater we'll know :-)

    We are so used to thinking of "drones" as aeroplanes (wings and propellers) that we do not grasp that other things can be "drones".

    "Black cube surrounded by a clear shell." Hmm, a radar reflector inside a balloon? Sensor pack inside a balloon?

    One of the things ignored (or that most people do not know) is the
    US used balloons to probe the Republic of Cuba's air defenses back in
    the 1950s. Send up radar reflectors of various sizes (read that as
    "for specific wave lengths") and note which one's get a response from
    Cuban air defenses.
    We did similar things to the Soviet Union, and Red China. (And the Soviets to us) with the same intent: Get them to fire up search
    radars, fire control radars, alert fighters, etc, etc, in order to
    record them for later analysis.

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  • From 25B.R867@21:1/5 to pyotr filipivich on Tue Feb 14 23:19:21 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.military

    On 2/14/23 11:02 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:41:03 -0500
    typed in alt.survival the following:
    On 2/13/23 7:49 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
    "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> on Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000 typed in
    alt.survival the following:
    24B.R867 wrote:

    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m >>>>> ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move

    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......

    And have I got an investment opportunity in a Bridge in Crimea for
    you.


    The balloon was just TOO DAMNED BIG to cover up. Everybody
    could see it. Chinese balls have figuratively (sort of
    literally in this case) grown since Biden arrived.

    I understand why the military wants, sometimes needs, to
    keep secrets. Not letting the foe discover what you do or
    don't know can be strategically useful.

    Oh well, the cover is off now. Everybody with a pair of
    bargain binocs is gonna be scanning the skies for
    whatever and no ranking pol will DARE trying to hide
    the fact.

    As an aside ... some of the SUBSEQUENT objects shot at ...
    nobody seems to be telling the truth. They did not look
    or act like balloons or powered drones. Description of
    one was "cylindrical" - flattened ends. Sorry, nobody
    flies cylinders, one of the most 'draggy' shapes there is.
    This has led to comparison with some of the "tic-tac"
    UFOs that aviators seem to encounter often. Hannity had
    a military pilot on today who said his people saw them
    all the damned time plus some that looked "like a black
    cube surrounded by a clear shell" that did NOT fly like
    balloons at all.

    Hmmm ... did Joe just start a war with E.T. ??? If DC is
    suddenly replaced by a 20-mile crater we'll know :-)

    We are so used to thinking of "drones" as aeroplanes (wings and propellers) that we do not grasp that other things can be "drones".

    "Black cube surrounded by a clear shell." Hmm, a radar reflector inside a balloon? Sensor pack inside a balloon?


    COULD be ... except the pilot said it was holding
    its position even in high-altitude winds. Balloons
    can't do that. So, who the fuck KNOWS what it was -
    other than that it WASN'T a balloon. Then there was
    the weirdo "octagonal" thing over lake Huron.

    Now if yer really ET you'd say it was a square craft
    surrounded by a spherical force field :-)

    While there are surely ET's "out there" somewhere I am
    not at all convinced they'd be HERE. I keep getting this
    sinking feeling that the speed-o-light really IS "it"
    and everybody's kinda STUCK in their own little neighborhood
    forever and ever until they deplete every resource or
    go mad.


    One of the things ignored (or that most people do not know) is the
    US used balloons to probe the Republic of Cuba's air defenses back in
    the 1950s. Send up radar reflectors of various sizes (read that as
    "for specific wave lengths") and note which one's get a response from
    Cuban air defenses.

    We probably did. It's cheap signals intel - and spy sats
    didn't exist in the 50s.

    A Chinese 'rep' today said that all nations spy on each other
    all the time. He's mostly right. Then he said the Big Balloon
    wasn't for spying. There he was telling a lie.

    Just ASSUME everybody of relevance is GONNA try to spy on
    yer stuff. They are NOT gonna stop. So ... it becomes a
    matter of THWARTING such efforts. If Chinese balloons are
    a part of the mix then we BLAST THEM if they enter our
    airspace. Nothing so complicated about that.

    But I'd worry more about Chinese AGENTS on the ground here.
    Not all will LOOK "Chinese" either ... just have a secret
    bank account full of Yaun somewhere .....


    We did similar things to the Soviet Union, and Red China. (And the Soviets to us) with the same intent: Get them to fire up search
    radars, fire control radars, alert fighters, etc, etc, in order to
    record them for later analysis.

    Again you seem to miss the point ... it's not that "They
    shouldn't do that" - they're GONNA, always, GOTTA - it's
    how to RESPOND to the problem without everything going
    totally nuts. It's the international game. It can be
    done well, with style and intelligence, or horribly.

    FIRST off we need improved DETECTION methods. These things
    have a small radar/ir signature. NEXT we need some kind of
    special ground-launchable missile or drone that can lock
    on something with a minimal signature and reliably take
    'em out even at extreme altitudes. Image-rec rather than
    radar/ir return would be the choice these days. We seem to
    be behind on both counts at the moment. When/If we CAN cope
    then the balloons will stop because there'd be no point
    in them anymore.

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  • From Lee@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Feb 15 16:20:34 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.military, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    NoBody wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    24B.R867 wrote:


    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move >>
    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......



    Biden hasn't announced shooting down balloons.



    Why do you lie so much?



    Biden says he ordered US military to
    shoot down Chinese spy' balloon as
    soon as possible
    02/04/23 https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3844004-biden-says-he-ordere d-us-military-to-shoot-down-chinese-spy-balloon-as-soon-as-possible/



    U.S. President Joe Biden defends shooting
    down spy balloon
    02/04/23
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJro9hCaar0

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  • From 25B.R867@21:1/5 to Lee on Wed Feb 15 23:41:59 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.military, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2/15/23 11:20 AM, Lee wrote:
    NoBody wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    24B.R867 wrote:


    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move >>
    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......



    Biden hasn't announced shooting down balloons.



    Why do you lie so much?

    He announced shooting-down ONE balloon. All the
    OTHER shit shot down in the past week, they ain't
    really saying much. Coulda been ETs so far as
    anyone knows. If several world capitols are
    suddenly disappeared then we'll know :-)

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Lee on Thu Feb 16 07:04:45 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.military, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:20:34 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    24B.R867 wrote:


    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move >>
    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......



    Biden hasn't announced shooting down balloons.



    Why do you lie so much?



    Biden says he ordered US military to
    shoot down Chinese spy' balloon as
    soon as possible
    02/04/23 >https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3844004-biden-says-he-ordere >d-us-military-to-shoot-down-chinese-spy-balloon-as-soon-as-possible/



    U.S. President Joe Biden defends shooting
    down spy balloon
    02/04/23
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJro9hCaar0



    What part of the plural statement "balloons" did you not hear dimbulb.
    He's been silent since the first one...duh.




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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to 25B.R867@noaaada.net on Thu Feb 16 07:24:16 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.military, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:41:59 -0500, "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> wrote:

    Biden hasn't announced shooting down balloons.



    Why do you lie so much?

    He announced shooting-down ONE balloon. All the
    OTHER shit shot down in the past week, they ain't
    really saying much. Coulda been ETs so far as
    anyone knows. If several world capitols are
    suddenly disappeared then we'll know :-)

    The right bitched because "Biden" didn't shoot down the first balloon immediately. Now
    they're bitching because he's shooting down balloons immediately.

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

    Swill
    --
    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Slva Ukrajni! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Feb 17 06:43:45 2023
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.military, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 07:04:45 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:20:34 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    NoBody wrote:

    On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 17:44:14 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:

    24B.R867 wrote:


    https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230212-us-briefly-closes-lake-m
    ichican-airspace-in-objects-saga-s-latest-move >>
    The U.S. military shot down a flying object over Lake Huron
    near the Canadian border, U.S. officials said on Sunday, as
    North American security forces have been on high alert for
    airborne threats.

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity,
    told Reuters that the military had shot down the object
    but declined to say whether it resembled the large white
    Chinese balloon that was shot down earlier this month.


    Instead of ignoring the balloons and
    keeping the public ignorant about them
    (as did Trump) Biden annouces them and
    shoots them down

    What a refreshing change.......



    Biden hasn't announced shooting down balloons.



    Why do you lie so much?



    Biden says he ordered US military to
    shoot down Chinese spy' balloon as
    soon as possible
    02/04/23 >>https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3844004-biden-says-he-ordere >>d-us-military-to-shoot-down-chinese-spy-balloon-as-soon-as-possible/



    U.S. President Joe Biden defends shooting
    down spy balloon
    02/04/23
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJro9hCaar0



    What part of the plural statement "balloons" did you not hear dimbulb.
    He's been silent since the first one...duh.




    And Lying Lee has fled.

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