Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
|
| Yes, Florida teachers could face third-degree felony for
| using books, literature in classroom not approved by state
| ...
<https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify/florida-teacher-co
uld-face-a-third-degree-felony-for-using-books-literature-in-class-not
-approved-by-state/77-9f5a087f-8dcd-4a99-afe1-c9c23b6201cd>
--bks
Not just using unapproved books
but even just having them present
in the classroom.
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:01:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
|
| Yes, Florida teachers could face third-degree felony for
| using books, literature in classroom not approved by state
| ...
<https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify/florida-teacher-could-face-a-third-degree-felony-for-using-books-literature-in-class-not-approved-by-state/77-9f5a087f-8dcd-4a99-afe1-c9c23b6201cd>
A good law that protects the kids from the freaks.
It's nascent fascism and borderline unconstitutional.
Nonsense.
It's no surprise that Blue Girl wants children
indoctrinated by the state.
The state is responsible for what the children get taught, Dummy, not
the teacher's unions.
Should they also have a shelf for Mein Kampf, 'Protocol
Of The Elders of Zion', assorted KKK & anti-gay rants the
collected Q-Anon conspiracy portfolio, the works of
Ayatollah Khomeni and such as well ?
Hmmmm ???
Seems the Florida law is in support of existing federal
laws against institutional racism and/or govt promotion of
such racism. Just because the racism comes from the left side
of the street doesn't change the intent/meaning/value of
said laws.
At least the right-wing bigots KNOW they're bigots ...
Those unions want to breech federal laws that forbid
the preaching and practice of institutional racism.
The Florida law upholds that principle ... The State
of all entities should never be preaching racism.
On 1/30/23 2:31 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:01:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
|
| Yes, Florida teachers could face third-degree felony for
| using books, literature in classroom not approved by state
| ...
<https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify/florida-teacher
-could-face-a-third-degree-felony-for-using-books-literature-in-cla
ss-not-approved-by-state/77-9f5a087f-8dcd-4a99-afe1-c9c23b6201cd>
A good law that protects the kids from the freaks.
It's nascent fascism and borderline unconstitutional.
Nonsense.
It's no surprise that Blue Girl wants children
indoctrinated by the state.
The state is responsible for what the children get taught, Dummy, not
the teacher's unions.
Those unions want to breech federal laws that forbid
the preaching and practice of institutional racism.
The Florida law upholds that principle ... The State
of all entities should never be preaching racism.
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in >news:AtycnaxoVbvg7UX-nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
On 1/30/23 2:31 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:01:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
|
| Yes, Florida teachers could face third-degree felony for
| using books, literature in classroom not approved by state
| ...
<https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify/florida-teacher >>>>>> -could-face-a-third-degree-felony-for-using-books-literature-in-cla >>>>>> ss-not-approved-by-state/77-9f5a087f-8dcd-4a99-afe1-c9c23b6201cd>
A good law that protects the kids from the freaks.
It's nascent fascism and borderline unconstitutional.
Nonsense.
It's no surprise that Blue Girl wants children
indoctrinated by the state.
The state is responsible for what the children get taught, Dummy, not
the teacher's unions.
Those unions want to breech federal laws that forbid
the preaching and practice of institutional racism.
The Florida law upholds that principle ... The State
of all entities should never be preaching racism.
They aren't.
Why do you object to teaching ABOUT racism?
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in news:AtycnaxoVbvg7UX-nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
On 1/30/23 2:31 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:01:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
|
| Yes, Florida teachers could face third-degree felony for
| using books, literature in classroom not approved by state
| ...
<https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify/florida-teacher >>>>>> -could-face-a-third-degree-felony-for-using-books-literature-in-cla >>>>>> ss-not-approved-by-state/77-9f5a087f-8dcd-4a99-afe1-c9c23b6201cd>
A good law that protects the kids from the freaks.
It's nascent fascism and borderline unconstitutional.
Nonsense.
It's no surprise that Blue Girl wants children
indoctrinated by the state.
The state is responsible for what the children get taught, Dummy, not
the teacher's unions.
Those unions want to breech federal laws that forbid
the preaching and practice of institutional racism.
The Florida law upholds that principle ... The State
of all entities should never be preaching racism.
They aren't.
Why do you object to teaching ABOUT racism?
But when someone is
offended by teaching their children that they are inherently racist >regardless of their efforts, and others will never succeed, it is wrong.
On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 13:18:36 -0600, Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote:
But when someone is
offended by teaching their children that they are inherently racist
regardless of their efforts, and others will never succeed, it is wrong.
Did you make that up yourself or is it something you half heard on
talk radio?
Swill
--
PRACTICE is when everything works but no one knows why.
IN THIS FORUM, theory and practice are combined:
Nothing works and no one knows why.
Glory to the heroes! Glory to Ukraine!
Why do you object to teaching ABOUT racism?
I find it interesting that many of those complaining about the removal
of some books teaching their readers that they are doomed to failure due
to racism, were actively endorsing the removal of all flags and statues
that reminded them of the south and the civil war.
But when someone is
offended by teaching their children that they are inherently racist
regardless of their efforts, and others will never succeed, it is wrong.
You would accomplish more if you taught your children to get an
education, a job, take care of their family, and stay away from crime.
That would do more for them than pissing and moaning.
No, it is something I lived. When I was just 18 years old I experienced
a life changing moment. I was at Parris Island for boot camp, and the
first thing the DI said was:
do. And if you fail, it is no one's fault but your own" Those words
served me well, and that is what is missing in today's youth.
Especially the black youth. Get off your ass and work to achieve,
rather than blame racism, the weather, or any other source.
Before I am accused of "White privilege," My mother died and left me
medical bills.
My father died and left me a photo of him. Is that
white privilege?? I followed the Parris Island quote, and retired at
age 49!!!
THEORY is when you know everything but nothing works.
Mitchell Holman wrote:teacher
"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote in
news:AtycnaxoVbvg7UX-nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com:
On 1/30/23 2:31 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:01:38 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Blue Girl <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
|
| Yes, Florida teachers could face third-degree felony for
| using books, literature in classroom not approved by state
| ...
<https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify/florida-
cla-could-face-a-third-degree-felony-for-using-books-literature-in-
notss-not-approved-by-state/77-9f5a087f-8dcd-4a99-afe1-c9c23b6201cd> >>>>>>A good law that protects the kids from the freaks.
It's nascent fascism and borderline unconstitutional.
Nonsense.
It's no surprise that Blue Girl wants children
indoctrinated by the state.
The state is responsible for what the children get taught, Dummy,
the teacher's unions.
Those unions want to breech federal laws that forbid
the preaching and practice of institutional racism.
The Florida law upholds that principle ... The State
of all entities should never be preaching racism.
They aren't.
Why do you object to teaching ABOUT racism?
I find it interesting that many of those complaining about the removal
of some books
teaching their readers that they are doomed to failure due
to racism,
were actively endorsing the removal of all flags and statues
that reminded them of the south and the civil war.
There was damage and
riots because they were offended by those items. But when someone is offended by teaching their children that they are inherently racist
regardless of their efforts, and others will never succeed, it iswrong.
In article <trpkpc$2pgpu$1@dont-email.me>, Ken <Ken@invalid.com>
wrote:
No, it is something I lived. When I was just 18 years old I experienced
a life changing moment. I was at Parris Island for boot camp, and the
first thing the DI said was:
And everyone knows the DIs are experts in law and economics.
do. And if you fail, it is no one's fault but your own" Those words
If by law a world war veteran is denied a mortgage and the
subsequent capital appreciation, your contention is it the
veteran's fault because they were forced to obey red lining laws.?
served me well, and that is what is missing in today's youth.
Especially the black youth. Get off your ass and work to achieve,
Since all people are created equal, why are you segregating them
above?
rather than blame racism, the weather, or any other source.
And cases of workplace discrimination resulting in loss of wages
proved in court by a prepronderance of evidence are not to blame?
When the Supremes decided separate is inherently unequal, your
contention is the proven inequality had zero effects on wages and
factors affecting wages, such non-access to education?
Before I am accused of "White privilege," My mother died and left me
medical bills.
Then you're an idiot. Debts are not inheritted. Her credittors
could take payment from her estate. You didn't have to accept
medical bills as your own.
My father died and left me a photo of him. Is that
My heart bleeds for you.
white privilege?? I followed the Parris Island quote, and retired at
age 49!!!
And you did that without any real estate capital gains because
you would not take unfair advantage over others.
THEORY is when you know everything but nothing works.
My house appreciated some fiftyfold. I don't mind sharecroppers
in Alabama getting the same access to mortgages I got.
So you have a theory.
In article <trovef$2liod$1@dont-email.me>, Ken <Ken@invalid.com>
wrote:
Why do you object to teaching ABOUT racism?
I find it interesting that many of those complaining about the removal
of some books teaching their readers that they are doomed to failure due
to racism, were actively endorsing the removal of all flags and statues
that reminded them of the south and the civil war.
Since the South made explicit statements that they were starting
the war in order to sustain slavery and propagate into Lousiana,
Oregon, and Mexican territories, is your argument then that
slavery is not racist? What do you think about how the South
kidnapped free blacks in Pennsylvania and sold them into slavery?
But when someone is
offended by teaching their children that they are inherently racist
Cite who is teaching them.
regardless of their efforts, and others will never succeed, it is wrong.
Is it your contention that the black neighbourhoods of Tulsa were
destroyed by blacks?
You would accomplish more if you taught your children to get an
education, a job, take care of their family, and stay away from crime.
That would do more for them than pissing and moaning.
Since the 14th amendment assumes all people are created equal how
does equal opportunity result in unequal outcomes?
I was not defending the Civil war
nor slavery. I was equating the left's objection to names and statues
to the objection to books.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 13:18:36 -0600, Ken <Ken@invalid.com> wrote:No, it is something I lived. When I was just 18 years old I experienced
But when someone is
offended by teaching their children that they are inherently racist
regardless of their efforts, and others will never succeed, it is wrong.
Did you make that up yourself or is it something you half heard on
talk radio?
Swill
--
a life changing moment. I was at Parris Island for boot camp, and the
first thing the DI said was: "You can do more than you think you can
do. And if you fail, it is no one's fault but your own" Those words
served me well, and that is what is missing in today's youth.
Especially the black youth. Get off your ass and work to achieve,
rather than blame racism, the weather, or any other source.
Before I am accused of "White privilege," My mother died and left me
medical bills. My father died and left me a photo of him. Is that
white privilege?? I followed the Parris Island quote, and retired at
age 49!!!
Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <trpkpc$2pgpu$1@dont-email.me>, Ken <Ken@invalid.com>
wrote:
No, it is something I lived. When I was just 18 years old I experienced >>> a life changing moment. I was at Parris Island for boot camp, and the
first thing the DI said was:
And everyone knows the DIs are experts in law and economics.
do. And if you fail, it is no one's fault but your own" Those words
If by law a world war veteran is denied a mortgage and the
subsequent capital appreciation, your contention is it the
veteran's fault because they were forced to obey red lining laws.?
Did you attend "Stupid School?" You apparently have a reading
comprehension problem. The question was: "Did you make that up
yourself or is it something you half heard on talk radio?"
Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <trovef$2liod$1@dont-email.me>, Ken <Ken@invalid.com>
wrote:
Why do you object to teaching ABOUT racism?
I find it interesting that many of those complaining about the removal
of some books teaching their readers that they are doomed to failure due >>> to racism, were actively endorsing the removal of all flags and statues
that reminded them of the south and the civil war.
Since the South made explicit statements that they were starting
the war in order to sustain slavery and propagate into Lousiana,
Oregon, and Mexican territories, is your argument then that
slavery is not racist? What do you think about how the South
kidnapped free blacks in Pennsylvania and sold them into slavery?
You really DO have a reading comprehension problem. I suggest you read
my comments again very slowly. I was not defending the Civil war nor >slavery. I was equating the left's objection to names and statues to
the objection to books.
That is the topic of this thread.
But when someone is
offended by teaching their children that they are inherently racist
Cite who is teaching them.
Do you have a TV in your tent?? Turn on MSNBC, PBS or CNN. If no TV,
get a newspaper and read up on CRT. If you are still unable to do
either of those, turn on a radio and listen to people like Rev. Al
Sharpton or Joe Biden.
regardless of their efforts, and others will never succeed, it is wrong.
Is it your contention that the black neighbourhoods of Tulsa were
destroyed by blacks?
Tulsa happened early in the 20th century, if I am not mistaken. Let's >discuss New Orleans, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, and in the present
day context. Billions of dollars, if not Trillions, have been spent in
an effort to improve the lives of minorities. The results have been
less than spectacular. Those who succeeded were most often examples of >persistence and effort. (Unless of course if their career path was crime.)
It is "Equal Opportunity," not "Equal Outcome." Where the hell do youYou would accomplish more if you taught your children to get an
education, a job, take care of their family, and stay away from crime.
That would do more for them than pissing and moaning.
Since the 14th amendment assumes all people are created equal how
does equal opportunity result in unequal outcomes?
go to school, or did you go to school?? Using your theory, there could
never be an athlete with better performance because the outcome would be >unfair.
I find it interesting that many of those complaining about the removal
of some books teaching their readers that they are doomed to failure due >> to racism, were actively endorsing the removal of all flags and statues
that reminded them of the south and the civil war.
Since the South made explicit statements that they were starting
the war in order to sustain slavery and propagate into Lousiana,
Oregon, and Mexican territories, is your argument then that
slavery is not racist? What do you think about how the South
kidnapped free blacks in Pennsylvania and sold them into slavery?
You really DO have a reading comprehension problem. I suggest you read
my comments again very slowly. I was not defending the Civil war nor slavery. I was equating the left's objection to names and statues to
the objection to books. That is the topic of this thread.
Cite who is teaching them.
Do you have a TV in your tent?? Turn on MSNBC, PBS or CNN. If no TV,
get a newspaper and read up on CRT. If you are still unable to do
either of those, turn on a radio and listen to people like Rev. Al
Sharpton or Joe Biden.
Tulsa happened early in the 20th century, if I am not mistaken. Let's discuss New Orleans, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, and in the present
day context. Billions of dollars, if not Trillions, have been spent in
an effort to improve the lives of minorities. The results have been
less than spectacular. Those who succeeded were most often examples of
persistence and effort. (Unless of course if their career path was crime.)
You would accomplish more if you taught your children to get an
education, a job, take care of their family, and stay away from crime.
That would do more for them than pissing and moaning.
Since the 14th amendment assumes all people are created equal how
does equal opportunity result in unequal outcomes?
It is "Equal Opportunity," not "Equal Outcome." Where the hell do you
go to school, or did you go to school?? Using your theory, there could
never be an athlete with better performance because the outcome would be unfair.
do. And if you fail, it is no one's fault but your own" Those words
If by law a world war veteran is denied a mortgage and the
subsequent capital appreciation, your contention is it the
veteran's fault because they were forced to obey red lining laws.?
Did you attend "Stupid School?" You apparently have a reading
comprehension problem. The question was: "Did you make that up
yourself or is it something you half heard on talk radio?"
It is true that the separate but equal laws needed to be changed and
were changed.
It is also true that preferential treatment was given to
minorities. With little positive results, I might add. There are many successful minorities, and it is due to education and effort, rather
One thing I did not mention about my Marine experience, that apparently
you did not experience, is honor. It was the honorable thing to do.
And you did that without any real estate capital gains because
you would not take unfair advantage over others.
You DO realize the topic of this thread was book banning, don't you?? I
was responding to a question by a prior poster. You entered real estate
as a topic when no one had mentioned it.
Before I am accused of "White privilege," My mother died and left me medical bills.  My father died and left me a photo of him. Is that
white privilege??
Did you attend "Stupid School?"
When the Supremes decided separate is inherently unequal, your
contention is the proven inequality had zero effects on wages and
factors affecting wages, such non-access to education?
From the tone of your comments, I would guess you are not in such a successful group.
Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <trpkpc$2pgpu$1@dont-email.me>, Ken <Ken@invalid.com>
wrote:
No, it is something I lived. When I was just 18 years old I
experienced
a life changing moment. I was at Parris Island for boot camp, and the
first thing the DI said was:
And everyone knows the DIs are experts in law and economics.
do. And if you fail, it is no one's fault but your own" Those words
If by law a world war veteran is denied a mortgage and the
subsequent capital appreciation, your contention is it the
veteran's fault because they were forced to obey red lining laws.?
Did you attend "Stupid School?"Â You apparently have a reading
comprehension problem. The question was: "Did you make that up
yourself or is it something you half heard on talk radio?"
| ...
| Numerous titles by well-known authors such as Jodi Picoult,
| Toni Morrison and James Patterson have been pulled from
| library shelves. The removal list includes Picoult's novel
| "The Storyteller" about the granddaughter of a Holocaust
| survivor who meets an elderly former SS officer. It
| contains some violent scenes told in flashbacks from World
| War II and an assisted suicide.
|
| "Banning 'The Storyteller' is shocking, as it is about the
| Holocaust and has never been banned before," Picoult told
| us in an email.
|
| "Martin County is the first to ban twenty of my books at
| once," Picoult said, slamming such bans as "a shocking
| breach of freedom of speech and freedom of information." A
| coastal county in the southeastern part of the state,
| Martin County is heavily Republican.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/10/ron-desantis-book-bans-martin-county-jodi-picoult/>
--bks
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 15:12:35 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
| ...
| Numerous titles by well-known authors such as Jodi Picoult,
| Toni Morrison and James Patterson have been pulled from
| library shelves. The removal list includes Picoult's novel
| "The Storyteller" about the granddaughter of a Holocaust
| survivor who meets an elderly former SS officer. It
| contains some violent scenes told in flashbacks from World
| War II and an assisted suicide.
|
| "Banning 'The Storyteller' is shocking, as it is about the
| Holocaust and has never been banned before," Picoult told
| us in an email.
|
| "Martin County is the first to ban twenty of my books at
| once," Picoult said, slamming such bans as "a shocking
| breach of freedom of speech and freedom of information." A
| coastal county in the southeastern part of the state,
| Martin County is heavily Republican.
| ... >><https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/10/ron-desantis-book-bans-martin-county-jodi-picoult/>
--bks
Banning books about the holocaust. Hmm . . . how Christian.
| ...
| Numerous titles by well-known authors such as Jodi Picoult,
| Toni Morrison and James Patterson have been pulled from
| library shelves. The removal list includes Picoult's novel
| "The Storyteller" about the granddaughter of a Holocaust
| survivor who meets an elderly former SS officer. It
| contains some violent scenes told in flashbacks from World
| War II and an assisted suicide.
|
| "Banning 'The Storyteller' is shocking, as it is about the
| Holocaust and has never been banned before," Picoult told
| us in an email.
|
| "Martin County is the first to ban twenty of my books at
| once," Picoult said, slamming such bans as "a shocking
| breach of freedom of speech and freedom of information." A
| coastal county in the southeastern part of the state,
| Martin County is heavily Republican.
| ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/10/ron-desantis-book-bans-martin-county-jodi-picoult/>
--bks
...
| Numerous titles by well-known authors such as Jodi Picoult,...
| Toni Morrison and James Patterson have been pulled from
| library shelves. The removal list includes Picoult's novel
| "The Storyteller" about the granddaughter of a Holocaust
| survivor who meets an elderly former SS officer. It
| contains some violent scenes told in flashbacks from World
| War II and an assisted suicide.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 15:12:35 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
| ...
| Numerous titles by well-known authors such as Jodi Picoult,
| Toni Morrison and James Patterson have been pulled from
| library shelves. The removal list includes Picoult's novel
| "The Storyteller" about the granddaughter of a Holocaust
| survivor who meets an elderly former SS officer. It
| contains some violent scenes told in flashbacks from World
| War II and an assisted suicide.
|
| "Banning 'The Storyteller' is shocking, as it is about the
| Holocaust and has never been banned before," Picoult told
| us in an email.
|
| "Martin County is the first to ban twenty of my books at
| once," Picoult said, slamming such bans as "a shocking
| breach of freedom of speech and freedom of information." A
| coastal county in the southeastern part of the state,
| Martin County is heavily Republican.
| ... >><https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/10/ron-desantis-book-bans-martin-county-jodi-picoult/>
--bks
And Bradley thinks it's a good to teach people that assisted suicide
is a good thing...
Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
...
| Numerous titles by well-known authors such as Jodi Picoult,...
| Toni Morrison and James Patterson have been pulled from
| library shelves. The removal list includes Picoult's novel
| "The Storyteller" about the granddaughter of a Holocaust
| survivor who meets an elderly former SS officer. It
| contains some violent scenes told in flashbacks from World
| War II and an assisted suicide.
Good on you Kremlin Girl! I figured that even a Russian
troll would not come down on the side of Nazis.
--bks
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 15:31:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
...
| Numerous titles by well-known authors such as Jodi Picoult,...
| Toni Morrison and James Patterson have been pulled from
| library shelves. The removal list includes Picoult's novel
| "The Storyteller" about the granddaughter of a Holocaust
| survivor who meets an elderly former SS officer. It
| contains some violent scenes told in flashbacks from World
| War II and an assisted suicide.
Good on you Kremlin Girl! I figured that even a Russian
troll would not come down on the side of Nazis.
I wouldn't know. How do YOU feel about the Nazis?
--bks
The DeSantis express is on the wrong track and headed for you:
|
| A principal of a Florida school has been forced to resign
| after a parent complained that sixth-grade students were
| exposed to pornography.
|
| The complaint arose from a Renaissance art lesson where
| students were shown Michelangelo's statue of David.
|
| The iconic statue is one of the most famous in Western
| history.
|
| But one parent complained the material was pornographic and
| two others said they wanted to know about the class before
| it was taught.
| ...
<https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65071989>
--bks
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