• eight sexual harmonics

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 10 02:09:20 2020
    XPost: alt.polyamory, alt.transgendered, soc.support.transgendered
    XPost: can.motss

    Near the end of the Recent Changes section of my
    Salmon on the Thorns web page I describe my theory of
    eight sexual harmonics.

    For the theists on here, currently I consider my top
    deity God, defined as the all-governing someone, to be
    non-anthropomorphic and non-gendered and refer to my
    God as "it". However I am considering switching to
    the view that my God has all eight sexual harmonics
    and is optimally sexually compatible with everyone.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the
    hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 10 18:32:39 2020
    XPost: alt.polyamory, alt.transgendered, soc.support.transgendered
    XPost: can.motss

    On Apr 10, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in
    article<dalton.nfld-A0CFFC.02092010042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>):

    Near the end of the Recent Changes section of my
    Salmon on the Thorns web page I describe my theory of
    eight sexual harmonics.

    For the theists on here, currently I consider my top
    deity God, defined as the all-governing someone, to be
    non-anthropomorphic and non-gendered and refer to my
    God as "it". However I am considering switching to
    the view that my God has all eight sexual harmonics
    and is optimally sexually compatible with everyone.

    and can be identified with by everyone

    Perhaps I should use God/dess but I find that awkward, and
    if the word actor can be gender nonspecific I think the
    word God can as well.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the
    hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 14 19:12:59 2020
    XPost: alt.polyamory, alt.transgendered, soc.support.transgendered
    XPost: can.motss

    On Apr 10, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in
    article<dalton.nfld-A0CFFC.02092010042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>):

    Near the end of the Recent Changes section of my
    Salmon on the Thorns web page I describe my theory of
    eight sexual harmonics.

    For the theists on here, currently I consider my top
    deity God, defined as the all-governing someone, to be
    non-anthropomorphic and non-gendered and refer to my
    God as "it". However I am considering switching to
    the view that my God has all eight sexual harmonics
    and is optimally sexually compatible with everyone.

    Here is a brief summary of the eight harmonics theory for those
    who, like me, are reluctant to click on links in a Usenet newsgroup
    post, especially http rather than https:

    I have a theory of four orientations (purestraight, gay/lesbian, bisexual
    by nature, and fourth orientation compatible only with bisexual by
    nature of the opposite gender) and two spiritual genders, so effectively
    eight harmonics (1M, 2M, 3M, 4M, 1F, 2F, 3F, 4F). However one
    must also be careful to watch for transgender cases (e.g. 1MT would
    be spiritually purestraight male in a female body) and multispirit
    individuals, which I define not as transgender but as individuals
    with more than one harmonic, generally equal number of male
    and female harmonics, and usually two-spirit, e.g. 3F/2MT, but
    I did come across one four-spirit individual, 1M/2M/1FT/2FT,
    compatible with everyone other than 4F and 4M, so far, and a
    3M/3FT or 3F/3MT would be at least partially compatible with
    everybody, and if there was an eight-spirit individual they would
    be optimally compatible with everyone, as would a 1M/1F/3M/3F.

    When I say bisexual by nature I mean someone who feels
    sexual attraction to both genders, but can be honestly either
    bisexual, straight, celibate, or gay/lesbian by lifestyle choice.
    When I say partially compatible I mean less likely to
    stick, so a 1M is optimally compatible with a 1F but
    only partially compatible with a 3F, and I think also
    that a 3F is only partially compatible with a 3M but
    is optimally compatible with a 4M, 3F, or 2F.

    I base my theory partly on my own sexual attractions (I think
    I am 4M) but I also used it, with at least one confirmed 1M/3FT
    result, when I thought I had a matchmaking siddhi (paranormal
    ability) from late March 8 to early March 20, 2019, which
    I hope will return someday. When I say above that I came
    across a 1M/2M/1FT/2FT, that was using my ability on a
    picture and it has not yet been confirmed. And through
    what I call assisted shaktipat I have been trying to pass
    on the ability to at least a million individuals worldwide,
    who should benefit from my theory. But if not, the theory
    should be able to be researched and applied through surveys.
    The confusing part is that many who are bisexual by nature
    are straight by lifestyle choice, and some gay/lesbian (sexually
    attracted to just the same gender) are dishonestly (although
    unfortunately forced in some cases) trying to be bisexual or straight.

    I do not believe there are asexuals, though a 4M who has had
    no experience yet with 3F might think that he is.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the
    hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From The Millennium Wombat@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed Apr 15 11:39:41 2020
    On Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:43:01 UTC+1, David Dalton wrote:
    On Apr 10, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<dalton.nfld-A0CFFC.02092010042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>):

    Wow, what a load of offensive twaddle. Let me pick out some of the worst bits.

    For the theists on here, currently I consider my top
    deity God, defined as the all-governing someone, to be
    non-anthropomorphic and non-gendered and refer to my
    God as "it". However I am considering switching to
    the view that my God has all eight sexual harmonics
    and is optimally sexually compatible with everyone.

    "God is sexually compatible with humans" - offensive to many monotheists (and the kind of heresy that the Catholics used to burn people to death for).

    Here is a brief summary of the eight harmonics theory for those
    who, like me, are reluctant to click on links in a Usenet newsgroup
    post, especially http rather than https:

    I have a theory

    This is offensive to me as a scientist. It's not a theory: a theory is a hypothesis plus evidence. You've been posting about this for many years and you've yet to mention ANY evidence outside of yourself. It's not even a hypothesis, because it does not
    offer testable propositions. The best word for it would probably be to call it a "notion".

    of four orientations (purestraight, gay/lesbian, bisexual
    by nature, and fourth orientation compatible only with bisexual by
    nature of the opposite gender)

    Insisting on calling bisexuals "bisexuals by nature", but not adding "by nature" to any of the others, is subtly offensive, as is adorning straight with the word "pure" but not extending that to gay people or lesbians. Your biases are showing.

    and two spiritual genders,

    Offensive to non-binary, genderqueer, and third gender people directly, and all those of us who got over the idea of the gender binary decades ago.

    There are not just two genders. Different cultures have different ideas about gender and they don't always define two (or any). Gender is performative.

    so effectively
    eight harmonics (1M, 2M, 3M, 4M, 1F, 2F, 3F, 4F). However one
    must also be careful to watch for transgender cases (e.g. 1MT would
    be spiritually purestraight male in a female body)

    Transphobic.

    and multispirit
    individuals, which I define not as transgender but as individuals
    with more than one harmonic, generally equal number of male
    and female harmonics, and usually two-spirit, e.g. 3F/2MT, but
    I did come across one four-spirit individual, 1M/2M/1FT/2FT,
    compatible with everyone other than 4F and 4M, so far, and a
    3M/3FT or 3F/3MT would be at least partially compatible with
    everybody, and if there was an eight-spirit individual they would
    be optimally compatible with everyone, as would a 1M/1F/3M/3F.

    When I say bisexual by nature I mean someone who feels
    sexual attraction to both genders, but can be honestly either
    bisexual, straight, celibate, or gay/lesbian by lifestyle choice.
    When I say partially compatible I mean less likely to
    stick, so a 1M is optimally compatible with a 1F but
    only partially compatible with a 3F, and I think also
    that a 3F is only partially compatible with a 3M but
    is optimally compatible with a 4M, 3F, or 2F.

    I base my theory partly on my own sexual attractions (I think
    I am 4M) but I also used it, with at least one confirmed 1M/3FT
    result, when I thought I had a matchmaking siddhi (paranormal
    ability)

    Perceived paranormal powers cannot be supporting evidence for a theory, because evidence must be testable, and by definition, supernatural things aren't testable in the natural world.

    from late March 8 to early March 20, 2019, which
    I hope will return someday. When I say above that I came
    across a 1M/2M/1FT/2FT, that was using my ability on a
    picture and it has not yet been confirmed. And through
    what I call assisted shaktipat I have been trying to pass
    on the ability to at least a million individuals worldwide,
    who should benefit from my theory. But if not, the theory
    should be able to be researched and applied through surveys.
    The confusing part is that many who are bisexual by nature
    are straight by lifestyle choice, and some gay/lesbian (sexually
    attracted to just the same gender) are dishonestly (although
    unfortunately forced in some cases) trying to be bisexual or straight.

    That's the confusing part?

    I do not believe there are asexuals, though a 4M who has had
    no experience yet with 3F might think that he is.

    Need I mention to which group this is offensive?

    Jon.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to The Millennium Wombat on Sat Apr 18 21:06:58 2020
    In article <175b2f66-fe4e-4fde-842c-a5fb1da4c3a0@googlegroups.com>,
    The Millennium Wombat <jimblewix@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:43:01 UTC+1, David Dalton wrote:
    On Apr 10, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<dalton.nfld-A0CFFC.02092010042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>):

    Wow, what a load of offensive twaddle. Let me pick out some of the worst bits.

    For the theists on here, currently I consider my top
    deity God, defined as the all-governing someone, to be non-anthropomorphic and non-gendered and refer to my
    God as "it". However I am considering switching to
    the view that my God has all eight sexual harmonics
    and is optimally sexually compatible with everyone.

    "God is sexually compatible with humans" - offensive to many monotheists (and the kind of heresy that the Catholics used to burn people to death for).

    and God can be identified with by everyone

    Also I am an individual neopagan, not a Catholic any more.

    Here is a brief summary of the eight harmonics theory for those
    who, like me, are reluctant to click on links in a Usenet newsgroup
    post, especially http rather than https:

    I have a theory

    This is offensive to me as a scientist. It's not a theory: a theory is a hypothesis plus evidence. You've been posting about this for many years and you've yet to mention ANY evidence outside of yourself. It's not even a hypothesis, because it does not offer testable propositions. The best word for it would probably be to call it a "notion".

    A theory is something that can be tested by searching for
    evidence, as mine could be by surveys/interviews.


    of four orientations (purestraight, gay/lesbian, bisexual
    by nature, and fourth orientation compatible only with bisexual by
    nature of the opposite gender)

    Insisting on calling bisexuals "bisexuals by nature", but not adding "by nature" to any of the others, is subtly offensive, as is adorning straight with the word "pure" but not extending that to gay people or lesbians. Your biases are showing.


    I use bisexual by nature since some bisexuals (attracted to
    both genders) are straight by lifestyle choice (choose
    to have sex just with the opposite sex), and also
    unfortunately some gays and lesbians try to act bisexual
    or straight (though this is forced in some societies/religions).
    Also I think bisexuals are far more common that surveys
    might indicate.

    Perhaps purestraight is not a good term, since they are not
    particularly pure, especially when they have a series
    of relationships with bisexuals of the opposite gender,
    but are when they get hooked up with a purestraight of
    the opposite gender. But in my theory I have two types of
    straight: purestraight, optimally compatible with purestraight
    of the opposite gender, and fourth orientation, compatible
    only with bisexual(s) of the opposite gender, and also
    many bisexuals say they are straight.

    and two spiritual genders,

    Offensive to non-binary, genderqueer, and third gender people directly, and all those of us who got over the idea of the gender binary decades ago.

    I think those are what I call multispirit individuals, though
    some may be simply transgendered.

    There are not just two genders. Different cultures have different ideas about gender and they don't always define two (or any). Gender is performative.

    so effectively
    eight harmonics (1M, 2M, 3M, 4M, 1F, 2F, 3F, 4F). However one
    must also be careful to watch for transgender cases (e.g. 1MT would
    be spiritually purestraight male in a female body)

    Transphobic.

    1MT would be optimally compatible with 1F but might have
    to settle for 3F. When I say watch for I mean in
    seeking evidence for the theory.

    and multispirit
    individuals, which I define not as transgender but as individuals
    with more than one harmonic, generally equal number of male
    and female harmonics, and usually two-spirit, e.g. 3F/2MT, but
    I did come across one four-spirit individual, 1M/2M/1FT/2FT,
    compatible with everyone other than 4F and 4M, so far, and a
    3M/3FT or 3F/3MT would be at least partially compatible with
    everybody, and if there was an eight-spirit individual they would
    be optimally compatible with everyone, as would a 1M/1F/3M/3F.

    When I say bisexual by nature I mean someone who feels
    sexual attraction to both genders, but can be honestly either
    bisexual, straight, celibate, or gay/lesbian by lifestyle choice.
    When I say partially compatible I mean less likely to
    stick, so a 1M is optimally compatible with a 1F but
    only partially compatible with a 3F, and I think also
    that a 3F is only partially compatible with a 3M but
    is optimally compatible with a 4M, 3F, or 2F.

    I base my theory partly on my own sexual attractions (I think
    I am 4M) but I also used it, with at least one confirmed 1M/3FT
    result, when I thought I had a matchmaking siddhi (paranormal
    ability)

    Perceived paranormal powers cannot be supporting evidence for a theory, because evidence must be testable, and by definition, supernatural things aren't testable in the natural world.

    So yes, it is based mainly on my own sexual experiences and
    attractions, but the matches that I intuited from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, including e.g. 4F Joni Mitchell
    with 3M Tom Waits, are testable.

    from late March 8 to early March 20, 2019, which
    I hope will return someday. When I say above that I came
    across a 1M/2M/1FT/2FT, that was using my ability on a
    picture and it has not yet been confirmed. And through
    what I call assisted shaktipat I have been trying to pass
    on the ability to at least a million individuals worldwide,
    who should benefit from my theory. But if not, the theory
    should be able to be researched and applied through surveys.
    The confusing part is that many who are bisexual by nature
    are straight by lifestyle choice, and some gay/lesbian (sexually
    attracted to just the same gender) are dishonestly (although
    unfortunately forced in some cases) trying to be bisexual or straight.

    That's the confusing part?

    Yes, if you survey people and some bisexuals say they
    are straight and some lesbians say they are bisexual.
    That would have to be accounted for in testing the
    theory; orientation must be based just on who one
    is attracted to.

    I do not believe there are asexuals, though a 4M who has had
    no experience yet with 3F might think that he is.

    Need I mention to which group this is offensive?

    I commented on asexuals more in another followup a little
    while ago

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the
    hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sat Apr 18 20:45:29 2020
    XPost: alt.polyamory, alt.transgendered, soc.support.transgendered
    XPost: can.motss

    In article
    <0001HW.244665E300AA0FB770000715A2CF@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    On Apr 10, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<dalton.nfld-A0CFFC.02092010042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>):

    Near the end of the Recent Changes section of my
    Salmon on the Thorns web page I describe my theory of
    eight sexual harmonics.

    For the theists on here, currently I consider my top
    deity God, defined as the all-governing someone, to be
    non-anthropomorphic and non-gendered and refer to my
    God as "it". However I am considering switching to
    the view that my God has all eight sexual harmonics
    and is optimally sexually compatible with everyone.

    Here is a brief summary of the eight harmonics theory for those
    who, like me, are reluctant to click on links in a Usenet newsgroup
    post, especially http rather than https:

    I have a theory of four orientations (purestraight, gay/lesbian, bisexual
    by nature, and fourth orientation compatible only with bisexual by
    nature of the opposite gender) and two spiritual genders, so effectively eight harmonics (1M, 2M, 3M, 4M, 1F, 2F, 3F, 4F). However one
    must also be careful to watch for transgender cases (e.g. 1MT would
    be spiritually purestraight male in a female body) and multispirit individuals, which I define not as transgender but as individuals
    with more than one harmonic, generally equal number of male
    and female harmonics, and usually two-spirit, e.g. 3F/2MT, but
    I did come across one four-spirit individual, 1M/2M/1FT/2FT,
    compatible with everyone other than 4F and 4M, so far, and a
    3M/3FT or 3F/3MT would be at least partially compatible with
    everybody, and if there was an eight-spirit individual they would
    be optimally compatible with everyone, as would a 1M/1F/3M/3F.

    When I say bisexual by nature I mean someone who feels
    sexual attraction to both genders, but can be honestly either
    bisexual, straight, celibate, or gay/lesbian by lifestyle choice.
    When I say partially compatible I mean less likely to
    stick, so a 1M is optimally compatible with a 1F but
    only partially compatible with a 3F, and I think also
    that a 3F is only partially compatible with a 3M but
    is optimally compatible with a 4M, 3F, or 2F.

    I base my theory partly on my own sexual attractions (I think
    I am 4M) but I also used it, with at least one confirmed 1M/3FT
    result, when I thought I had a matchmaking siddhi (paranormal
    ability) from late March 8 to early March 20, 2019, which
    I hope will return someday. When I say above that I came
    across a 1M/2M/1FT/2FT, that was using my ability on a
    picture and it has not yet been confirmed. And through
    what I call assisted shaktipat I have been trying to pass
    on the ability to at least a million individuals worldwide,
    who should benefit from my theory. But if not, the theory
    should be able to be researched and applied through surveys.
    The confusing part is that many who are bisexual by nature
    are straight by lifestyle choice, and some gay/lesbian (sexually
    attracted to just the same gender) are dishonestly (although
    unfortunately forced in some cases) trying to be bisexual or straight.

    I do not believe there are asexuals, though a 4M who has had
    no experience yet with 3F might think that he is.

    A 4M would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3M, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3F, but would be with respect to a
    2F pretending to be a 3F, and also with respect to a 3MT.

    And, as should be obvious from my above statements,
    a 4F who has had no experience yet with a 3M might think
    that she is asexual. Also some gays and some lesbians
    might claim to be asexual, and are certainly asexual
    with respect to the opposite gender. And some people
    might be low in some hormones and could benefit from
    hormone supplementation.

    A 4F would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3F, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3M, but would be with respect to a
    2M pretending to be a 3M, and also with respect to a 3FT.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the
    hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sat Apr 18 21:39:25 2020
    In article
    <dalton.nfld-3BBD1E.21065818042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <175b2f66-fe4e-4fde-842c-a5fb1da4c3a0@googlegroups.com>,
    The Millennium Wombat <jimblewix@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, 14 April 2020 22:43:01 UTC+1, David Dalton wrote:
    On Apr 10, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<dalton.nfld-A0CFFC.02092010042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>)
    :

    Wow, what a load of offensive twaddle. Let me pick out some of the worst bits.

    For the theists on here, currently I consider my top
    deity God, defined as the all-governing someone, to be non-anthropomorphic and non-gendered and refer to my
    God as "it". However I am considering switching to
    the view that my God has all eight sexual harmonics
    and is optimally sexually compatible with everyone.

    "God is sexually compatible with humans" - offensive to many monotheists (and
    the kind of heresy that the Catholics used to burn people to death for).

    and God can be identified with by everyone

    Also I am an individual neopagan, not a Catholic any more.

    But I do refer to God as "it", not "he".

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the
    hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sat Apr 18 21:24:01 2020
    XPost: alt.polyamory, alt.transgendered, soc.support.transgendered
    XPost: can.motss

    In article
    <dalton.nfld-648A49.20452918042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article
    <0001HW.244665E300AA0FB770000715A2CF@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    I do not believe there are asexuals, though a 4M who has had
    no experience yet with 3F might think that he is.

    A 4M would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3M, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3F, but would be with respect to a
    2F pretending to be a 3F, and also with respect to a 3MT.

    And, as should be obvious from my above statements,
    a 4F who has had no experience yet with a 3M might think
    that she is asexual. Also some gays and some lesbians
    might claim to be asexual, and are certainly asexual
    with respect to the opposite gender. And some people
    might be low in some hormones and could benefit from
    hormone supplementation.

    A 4F would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3F, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3M, but would be with respect to a
    2M pretending to be a 3M, and also with respect to a 3FT.

    As for non-binary people, I think they are probably
    what I call multispirit, though some may be simply
    transgendered (for example one I observed last
    March is a 3MT, spiritually bisexual male originally
    in a female body, but has partially transitioned).

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the
    hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From Steve Pope@21:1/5 to dalton.nfld@gmail.com on Sun Apr 19 01:08:23 2020
    XPost: alt.polyamory, alt.transgendered, soc.support.transgendered
    XPost: can.motss

    David Dalton <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article ><dalton.nfld-648A49.20452918042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article
    <0001HW.244665E300AA0FB770000715A2CF@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    I do not believe there are asexuals, though a 4M who has had
    no experience yet with 3F might think that he is.

    A 4M would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3M, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3F, but would be with respect to a
    2F pretending to be a 3F, and also with respect to a 3MT.

    And, as should be obvious from my above statements,
    a 4F who has had no experience yet with a 3M might think
    that she is asexual. Also some gays and some lesbians
    might claim to be asexual, and are certainly asexual
    with respect to the opposite gender. And some people
    might be low in some hormones and could benefit from
    hormone supplementation.

    A 4F would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3F, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3M, but would be with respect to a
    2M pretending to be a 3M, and also with respect to a 3FT.

    As for non-binary people, I think they are probably
    what I call multispirit, though some may be simply
    transgendered (for example one I observed last
    March is a 3MT, spiritually bisexual male originally
    in a female body, but has partially transitioned).

    Rather then commenting on the whole thing, I'll just say that
    the preferred term is transgender, not trangendered.

    Steve

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Steve Pope on Wed Apr 22 17:56:45 2020
    XPost: alt.polyamory, alt.transgendered, soc.support.transgendered
    XPost: can.motss

    On Apr 18, 2020, Steve Pope wrote
    (in article <r7g8a7$7dv$1@blue-new.rahul.net>):

    David Dalton <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <dalton.nfld-648A49.20452918042020@reader02.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton.nfld@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <0001HW.244665E300AA0FB770000715A2CF@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    I do not believe there are asexuals, though a 4M who has had
    no experience yet with 3F might think that he is.

    A 4M would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3M, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3F, but would be with respect to a
    2F pretending to be a 3F, and also with respect to a 3MT.

    And, as should be obvious from my above statements,
    a 4F who has had no experience yet with a 3M might think
    that she is asexual. Also some gays and some lesbians
    might claim to be asexual, and are certainly asexual
    with respect to the opposite gender. And some people
    might be low in some hormones and could benefit from
    hormone supplementation.

    A 4F would be asexual with respect to 1M, 1F, 2M, 2F, 3F, 4M, 4F
    but not with respect to 3M, but would be with respect to a
    2M pretending to be a 3M, and also with respect to a 3FT.

    As for non-binary people, I think they are probably
    what I call multispirit, though some may be simply
    transgendered (for example one I observed last
    March is a 3MT, spiritually bisexual male originally
    in a female body, but has partially transitioned).

    Rather then commenting on the whole thing, I'll just say that
    the preferred term is transgender, not trangendered.

    Steve

    OK, thanks. But then why are the newsgroups named
    alt.transgendered and soc.support.transgendered ?

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "Early morning jubilators/Up to no good instigators.../Sons of long
    forgotten races/That the darkest night embraces." (Hynes/O'Doherty)

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