• matchmaking divinination/4th orientation again

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 01:19:31 2019
    XPost: alt.pagan, alt.religion.wicca, alt.astrology
    XPost: alt.astrology.asian

    I’ll have to proofread more carefully. “divinination” in the Subject
    line should be “divination”. I guess auto spellcheck doesn’t work
    in the Subject line in Hogwasher newsreader.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “This could be the final breath/This is life and death
    This is hard rock and water." (Ron Hynes--Final Breath)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 01:16:38 2019
    XPost: alt.pagan, alt.religion.wicca, alt.astrology
    XPost: alt.astrology.asian

    My ability to identify the sexual orientation of a person by looking
    at them or a picture of them seemed to be working last night,
    though I was mildly drunk at the time. This time it is not based
    on perineum click divination but on observation of the individual
    or their picture. But once again the determinations fall within
    my four orientation theory, in which I claim that there is a
    fourth orientation compatible only with bisexual by nature (i.e.
    someone who is attracted to both genders) of the opposite
    gender. If the theory is correct then it should prove useful
    to other matchmakers.

    However the sensitivity doesn’t appear to be quite as strong
    tonight, plus note that my matchmaking divinations were
    quite off from summer 1997 to spring 1999 and from fall
    2004 to early 2005.

    Last night I divined that Joni Mitchell is 4th orientation female (significantly attracted to and orgasmic with only bisexual
    by nature men, not purestraight men, gay men pretending
    to be bi, or 4th orientation men).

    I currently don’t have 4O.html on my web page but I do plan
    to edit it a little and add it eventually, but I have some
    academic work I need to take care of this week first.

    But if my ability to detect someone’s sexual orientation by
    looking at them or a picture of them is real, it should be
    testable.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “This could be the final breath/This is life and death
    This is hard rock and water." (Ron Hynes--Final Breath)

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  • From 380295701@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sun Mar 10 21:01:23 2019
    XPost: alt.pagan, alt.religion.wicca, alt.astrology
    XPost: alt.astrology.asian

    On 3/9/2019 11:46 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    My ability

    Yawn.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 04:04:32 2019
    XPost: alt.pagan, alt.religion.wicca, alt.astrology
    XPost: alt.astrology.asian

    On Mar 10, 2019, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2234CE2E0187FCA2700009E7D2CF@news.eternal-september.org>):

    My ability to identify the sexual orientation of a person by looking
    at them or a picture of them seemed to be working last night,
    though I was mildly drunk at the time. This time it is not based
    on perineum click divination but on observation of the individual
    or their picture. But once again the determinations fall within
    my four orientation theory, in which I claim that there is a
    fourth orientation compatible only with bisexual by nature (i.e.
    someone who is attracted to both genders) of the opposite
    gender. If the theory is correct then it should prove useful
    to other matchmakers.

    However the sensitivity doesn’t appear to be quite as strong
    tonight, plus note that my matchmaking divinations were
    quite off from summer 1997 to spring 1999 and from fall
    2004 to early 2005.

    Last night I divined that Joni Mitchell is 4th orientation female (significantly attracted to and orgasmic with only bisexual
    by nature men, not purestraight men, gay men pretending
    to be bi, or 4th orientation men).

    I currently don’t have 4O.html on my web page but I do plan
    to edit it a little and add it eventually, but I have some
    academic work I need to take care of this week first.

    But if my ability to detect someone’s sexual orientation by
    looking at them or a picture of them is real, it should be
    testable.

    I think I have been tested on alt.philosophy.taoism with two rare cases.

    And last night someone on a Facebook group challenged me to
    identify his sexuality and tonight I correctly identified him as
    a two spirited purestraight male/bisexual female.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “This could be the final breath/This is life and death
    This is hard rock and water." (Ron Hynes--Final Breath)

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  • From The Millennium Wombat@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Mar 12 09:09:32 2019
    On Monday, 11 March 2019 06:34:34 UTC, David Dalton wrote:
    On Mar 10, 2019, David Dalton wrote
    But if my ability to detect someone’s sexual orientation by
    looking at them or a picture of them is real, it should be
    testable.

    I think I have been tested on alt.philosophy.taoism with two rare cases.

    And last night someone on a Facebook group challenged me to
    identify his sexuality and tonight I correctly identified him as
    a two spirited purestraight male/bisexual female.

    Neither of which was a double-blind test, so not a standard of proof which most of us would accept.

    It's clear you have co-opted the term "sexual orientation" to mean something different to the rest of us. The standard definition is that it refers to the gender of people that the subject is attracted to. Gender can be classified as agender, male,
    female, intersex and nonbinary (though nonbinary covers all sorts of genders which vary between different cultures and times). Orientation can be classified as asexual, heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual (again, bisexual covers all sorts of
    orientations, notably including pansexual).

    So there are already four orientations, but all of them refer to the gender of people one is attracted to. Your definition of "fourth orientation" refers to characteristics other than gender - so, according to the definition in common currency, what you
    are calling an orientation is not a sexual orientation at all, just like metrosexual, sapiosexual and the rest of these words which have sprung up in recent years. The other day I saw someone use the term "lumbersexual". Neologism is fun but it runs the
    risk of making important words meaningless.

    J.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 15:33:12 2019
    On Mar 12, 2019, The Millennium Wombat wrote
    (in article<9090bccb-a1bf-487f-be8e-47cd3eebdd93@googlegroups.com>):

    On Monday, 11 March 2019 06:34:34 UTC, David Dalton wrote:
    On Mar 10, 2019, David Dalton wrote
    But if my ability to detect someone’s sexual orientation by
    looking at them or a picture of them is real, it should be
    testable.

    I think I have been tested on alt.philosophy.taoism with two rare cases.

    And last night someone on a Facebook group challenged me to
    identify his sexuality and tonight I correctly identified him as
    a two spirited purestraight male/bisexual female.

    Neither of which was a double-blind test, so not a standard of proof which most of us would accept.

    I won’t give his name since I don’t have his permission, but
    I will quote from his Facebook private message reply to me
    after I told him he was two-spited purestraight male/bisexual
    female just from looking at his profile picture:

    "Holy shit, I’ve nearly reaching androgeniety on the alchemical path. I’m alpha male and very attracted to females. But I’m also effeminate and am bi/pansexual”.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “This could be the final breath/This is life and death
    This is hard rock and water." (Ron Hynes--Final Breath)

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  • From The Millennium Wombat@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Mar 12 12:06:58 2019
    On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:03:14 UTC, David Dalton wrote:
    On Mar 12, 2019, The Millennium Wombat wrote
    On Monday, 11 March 2019 06:34:34 UTC, David Dalton wrote:
    On Mar 10, 2019, David Dalton wrote
    And last night someone on a Facebook group challenged me to
    identify his sexuality and tonight I correctly identified him as
    a two spirited purestraight male/bisexual female.

    Neither of which was a double-blind test, so not a standard of proof which most of us would accept.

    I won’t give his name since I don’t have his permission, but
    I will quote from his Facebook private message reply to me
    after I told him he was two-spited purestraight male/bisexual
    female just from looking at his profile picture:

    "Holy shit, I’ve nearly reaching androgeniety on the alchemical path. I’m alpha male and very attracted to females. But I’m also effeminate and am bi/pansexual”.

    Sure, quote from private messages rather than address any of my points.

    Usenet has a long and venerable history of people claiming that private messages support them, though it's unusual for people to actually publish them (due to it being a breach of trust), especially when it turns out the private message says something
    significantly different to what you claim it does.

    J.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 16:45:10 2019
    On Mar 12, 2019, The Millennium Wombat wrote
    (in article<9090bccb-a1bf-487f-be8e-47cd3eebdd93@googlegroups.com>):

    It's clear you have co-opted the term "sexual orientation" to mean something different to the rest of us. The standard definition is that it refers to the gender of people that the subject is attracted to. Gender can be classified as agender, male, female, intersex and nonbinary (though nonbinary covers all sorts of genders which vary between different cultures and times). Orientation can be classified as asexual, heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual (again, bisexual covers all sorts of orientations, notably including pansexual).

    So there are already four orientations, but all of them refer to the gender of people one is attracted to. Your definition of "fourth orientation" refers to characteristics other than gender - so, according to the definition in common currency, what you are calling an orientation is not a sexual orientation at all, just like metrosexual, sapiosexual and the rest of these words which have sprung up in recent years. The other day I saw someone use the term "lumbersexual". Neologism is fun but it runs the risk of making important words meaningless.

    J.

    Well, it is just a question of notation, which is negotiable.

    Instead of four orientations times two genders I could say there
    are eight harmonics (1M, 2M, 3M, 4M, 1F, 2F, 3F, 4F) and
    there are rare individuals who have more than one, who
    I call multi-spirit individuals.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “This could be the final breath/This is life and death
    This is hard rock and water." (Ron Hynes--Final Breath)

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